Composite Mercury through the signs + houses

[Ava]

For starters:

Mercury in Aries: Keep it quick, get to the point, and don’t get frustrated when the other person glosses over some details.
Mercury in Taurus: Consider your point before you make it. Try not to sound like you’re on the attack.
Mercury in Gemini: Prepare to be scattered with supporting facts and anecdotes. Do your best to stick to the subject.
Mercury in Cancer: Try not let things devolve into a personal attack. Be prepared for the last three arguments to be brought up again, even if those already got resolved.
Mercury in Leo: Things are likely be painted in broad, loud strokes. Don’t be distracted by hyperbole or emotionalism.
Mercury in Virgo: Be prepared to present supporting evidence, and to have your past offenses read into the record too.
Mercury in Libra: Remember that there’s no reason that an argument between two people can’t ultimately be turned into a “win” for both of them.
Mercury in Scorpio: Stay focused on the matter at hand, and avoid personalizing things that should be kept purely logical.

Mercury in Sagittarius: Prepare for a long story or an analogy, and take the time to hear what’s really being said.
Mercury in Capricorn: Keep it to the point, and try to address issues in small and easily managed chunks.
Mercury in Aquarius: Avoid saying anything mean-spirited or unnecessarily provocative. Brace yourself for some unintentional insults.
Mercury in Pisces: Try to establish the tone of the conversation before a fight breaks out and everyone gets hurt.

www.beliefnet.com/columnists/ohmystars/2013/12/astrology-of-love-and-compatibility-mercury-please-dont-mention-spiders.html

Also:
illumeastrology.blogspot.com/2017/07/composite-mercury-in-signs-communication.html

Composite Mercury through the houses:
www.thedarkpixieastrology.com/composite-mercury.html

More on composite Mercury through the houses:
www.southfloridaastrologer.com/composite-mercury-in-the-houses.html

Substitute corresponding signs for houses if you're copacetic with that...speaking for myself, dealing with comp Mercury in Sag with someone, this reading is so helpful and accurate:

Composite Mercury in the 9th House...

As the house that deals with opinions and ideals about how life should be led, as well as why we are alive in the first place, the ninth house is an interesting home for Mercury in a composite chart. People who feel strongly about philosophical or religious issues can come to blows with their partners if their opinion on these issues don't blend well. Mercury's objective, factual, nature seems like it would make any disagreements here easy to resolve. Simply go through the facts and sort it all out. The problem is that the ninth house doesn't deal with many facts. Philosophies about life, religion, and government are really opinions rather than facts that can be sorted through, making Mercury here a bit frustrating. Mercury loves to communicate, but couples can discuss, what they call facts, all day and never reach a conclusion that satisfies either person. Without the possibility of resolution, nit picking and criticisms about each person's philosophies of life ensue. With the conscious realization that conclusions can never be drawn, and each person is entitled to their opinion, this position can lend its usual detached, rational ways to this house. The couple can spend their time exploring all of the possible answers to life's questions in the usual ninth-house ways, by reading, traveling, exploring, and talking to people without worrying about reaching conclusions or about who's right.

www.southfloridaastrologer.com/composite-mercury-in-the-houses.html

If you have comp Mercury in Sag or the 9th house, maybe you've experienced this, the "never satisfied with a conclusion" feeling? (lumina) 

I was thinking of a relationship in which I have that problem, wondered if it was a Mercury issue, and feel so gratified that I found validation for it right away, as this was the first article I checked. 

[FruityLlama]

I've been through some composites and with those whom I find communication easy and satisfying, Mercury was in either Leo, Gemini or Aries. I never thought to look before. Composite Mercury in Cancer or Taurus and to a lesser extent, Pisces was found in friendships/relationships where feelings got hurt really easily, much like that first article you posted notes. One or the other of us seemed to get extra touchy, really weird.

Thank you for the thread, it is interesting

[lumina]

Cool thread Ava!


Well, as far as I understood the context of the bolded quote, this was more about discussing ideas or beliefs to figure out what is right or wrong, and never really reaching a satisfying conclusion in that, not so much about the conclusion about the relationship itself. Though maybe it is entailed in this. 

Don`t know in our case. Well we would have to start discussing either for starters for me to see if there is a conclusion or not, but since our Mercury is also conjunct Neptune, I suppose any conclusion would be nebulous and vague at best, or maybe very fluctuating. 

I wonder, if we also should look up the signplacement fitting the actual houseplacement? I mean if I compare our actual Mercury in Sag with Mercury in 9th, then why not also have a look at Mercury in Aqua (as our actual Mercury is in 11th house)? Well it is a no brainer, our pr composite Mercury is in Aqua anyway. lol 

But of course Mercury is always interesting to me for a) it rules (both our) DESC natally and b) it figures prominently in our synastry. 

BTW my Mercury is actually in his 9th house in our synastric overlay, well at the end of it already conjunct his MC by 3 degree, unless we use the equal system of course, then it would be right on the 10th house cusp. 

And in composite terms, using a rather generous orb, Mercury is pretty busy as well

(semisextile Venus 1 degree)
(sextile Mars 5 degrees)
opposite Jupiter 6 degrees
trine Saturn 4 degrees
conjunct Neptune 2 degrees
sextile Pluto 2 degrees
(semisquare ASC 0 degrees)
(semisextile MC 1 degree) 


basically Mercury is on the exact midpoint of the Venus-MC-sextile. I kind of like that. lol 
I probably wouldn`t really put too much emphasis on most of these aspects, as they are pretty wide, but not too wide to be meaningless and especially not seeing how many planets have to talk to Mercury And Mercury in Sag is in a mutual reception with Jupiter in Gemini, with Jupiter disposing those Sag planets (Sun, Mercury, Neptune). So Mercury-Jupiter, (connected to Neptune and Pluto for sure), is sort of one of the more important stuff in our composite. Possibly the more social, funoriented, friendly, idealistic side of it. (probably despearately needed with the emotional volatility emphasized elsewhere in the composite).

[12YearsABlob]

Trying to summarize from Townley's book:

Comp Mercury in Aries:

Quickness & agility of mind. Together, you are much more assertive and incisive than on your own. The way you interact with one another speeds up and sharpens both of your thought processes. The ability to follow up on things may be somewhat lacking (and needs to be worked on collectively).

Comp Mercury in Taurus:

In contrast with the above, you are more careful and follow through with your ideas. Less likely to jump to conclusions. May be a tad conservative and settle into a pattern of conversation that you wouldn't want to change. Together, your word and promises are seen as reliable. While sticking with what works may be good, growth may require you trying new things together.

Comp Mercury in Gemini:

You can vocalize together things that you couldn't articulate on your own. Communication won't be a problem, nor will there be a dearth of ideas. However, it's important to give due attention to nonverbal cues as well.

[12YearsABlob]

Part II

Comp Mercury in Cancer:

You're not only sensitive to the emotional tone of each other's words, but also that of other people (when together). Being perceptive like that helps you articulate your feelings with more depth than you thought possible. However, there's a tendency to *expect* the other to read your mind. So, you may feel like you've expressed yourself when you haven't. Try not to get defensive while communicating vulnerable feelings.

Comp Mercury in Leo:

The best part of this placement is your shared optimism. It might even carry over to the people around you. While that is a good thing to bank on, the details might get lost in all the sparkle. Attending to the nitty-gritty is not your forte, but can be very useful in the long run.

Comp Mercury in Virgo:

Together, your powers of observation are quadrupled. You are not likely to avoid crucial bits of information while communicating with one another. You might try to do too much at once. If you focus on fewer projects, you'll have the time to do them well. It would be nice to forgive one another's little mistakes and dole out compliments more often.

[12YearsABlob]

Part III

Comp Mercury in Libra:

You have a knack for mediating disputes. However, you may find yourself overwhelmed with sympathy for all sides. Especially because you spend so much time trying to understand your own and your partner's and everyone else's perspectives. It may be worthwhile to take a break from the information overload and just let yourselves be.

Comp Mercury in Scorpio:

Your shared intensity and determination will come in handy when faced with obstacles. However, it can also turn on you if you get into conflict with one another. Try to avoid such situations because the wounds will run deep. To avoid hurting one another, keep communication open and don't shut each other out. There might also be a tendency to shut other people out, but it should not be taken too far lest it cause resentment.

Comp Mercury in Sag:

You won't have the problem of silence that Scorpio mercury brings to the table. Much like Gemini mercury, there can be abundance of communication. If anything, you may need to curb that tendency sometimes. Your broad and inclusive approach can be great. But you may find yourself going off in many different directions and it's hard to get a handle on where things are going. It would help to establish the main point you wish to communicate first, and then elaborate around it so as to not lose yourselves in the process.

[12YearsABlob]

Part IV

Comp Mercury in Cap:

If you have a tendency to ramble (individually), you certainly won't in this relationship. Cap mercury tends to be concise and to-the-point. Carefully measuring your words is not a bad thing. There may not be effusive declarations of anything, but what is conveyed will have gravity. Carefully considered as they are, you may nonetheless benefit from revising your opinions from time to time.

Comp Mercury in Aqua:

In this relationship, you may get a broader perspective and a more objective one too. Like Libra mercury, you have the ability to keep track of many streams of information simultaneously. While Libra mercury may grow too attached to each side to take a stand, you might be too forceful in the stand you take. It helps to keep your lines of communication open, so that you don't get stuck on one extreme or another.

Comp Mercury in Pisces:

This one requires extra effort to be clear and articulate. There could be a lot of confusion if things are left unsaid. They might be misunderstood and hurt the relationship. If you can work on understanding one another by verbalizing your intentions, you can open up the sensitive perception of Pisces mercury.

[12YearsABlob]

Personally, I find that good Mercury synastry translates to good mercury in composite (and the same goes for problems in synastry). i.e., for me, the synastry with Mercury is make-or-break. Depending on that, I get the "good" or bad of each composite mercury sign. If that makes sense(?)

[anela]

May 17, 2020 23:15:43 GMT 12YearsABlob said:

Trying to summarize from Townley's book:

Comp Mercury in Aries:

Quickness & agility of mind. Together, you are much more assertive and incisive than on your own. The way you interact with one another speeds up and sharpens both of your thought processes. The ability to follow up on things may be somewhat lacking (and needs to be worked on collectively).

This has been true for me, but they are conjunct in the composite, because they're conjunct in synastry. 

I should check my composite with my sister.

[Ava]

Thank you all for the feedback and replies!

12YearsABlob, bless you for the extra information.

Currently I am just thinking of composite Mercury in Capricorn, which I have with many friends, and we do not match the readings. We tend to write monumentally long emails or stay in the restaurant way too long as we drink too much of whatever and try to wrap up an eternal conversation. I have this with my son who lingers in the kitchen sometimes, and we can talk for extended lengths of time about all sorts of minutiae, like comparing different brands and textures of tater tots as if we are pro restaurant critics, while other family members stroll through and roll their eyes at us.

The only time it functions like one might expect is when I'm talking to a guy with natal Cap Mercury (mine's early Aqua). Cap Mercury men tend to be succinct or taciturn and I usually just follow suit.

Pls don't quote

[12YearsABlob]

Hmm, I wonder what else is going on with those composites. Does mercury aspect anything else? Does it aspect anybody's natal planets? Also, there might be long discussions, but they're always of substance(?) Not fluff or filler, because it's an earth mercury. And yes, Cap mercury prefers brevity. But it's more about not wasting time on inconsequential chatter than brevity for brevity's sake. 

But yeah, the individual mercuries play into it as well. So does the synastry...

[FruityLlama]

With both of my parents, I have comp. Mercury in Leo and I'm definitely a bit louder, more talkative and animated when talking with them.

Noticing more comp. Aries mercuries with those whom I can be quite honest and upfront with and generally enjoy talking to.

I've also noticed a really funny thing about comp. Merc in Taurus...those with whom I share this tend to repeat themselves to me. Not because I wasn't listening or anything, the other person just for some reason feels the need to say the same things several things. This made me think of Taurus and their love of routine haha! But also, I think with some of the people I have this with have natal Gemini placements which may count for it a little. Having said that, one person who does this is a fellow Taurus with their Taurus mercury tightly conjunct mine so I don't know. 

[Ava]

May 18, 2020 15:52:18 GMT 12YearsABlob said:

Also, there might be long discussions, but they're always of substance(?) 

lumina , are our conversations always substantial?

My vote is "no" 😂...

But our context and framework is usually astrological, which is serious and ancient.

Our comp Mercury-IC @ 15° Cap right on my sun.

Considering other comp Cap Mercury relationships in my life, usually the sun is involved...

- Comp sun conjunct Mercury
- Comp sun on natal Mercury or comp Mercury on natal sun

And the sun brings illumination. Cap strives for the bottom line and barest essentials, but in my opinion it's not quite there yet, that's more an Aqua gift, and Caps who are standoffish tend to be reserved and waiting for an opportunity to divulge more and interact with people in a circumstance that feels right. There is a long story Cap wants to tell..this is a feminine sign that's taken in a lot. Reservation is part of a process that hopes to end in integration. Meanwhile Aquas who seem reserved probably genuinely don't want to have anything to do with you...it's not "reservation" so much as rejection. 

Well with me anyway. 

[lumina]

Ava

actually, yes, I think most of our conversations are substantial; even the more playful joking ones seem to have substance underneath.

Interesting that your Mercury falling on our synastric Sun (you)- Saturn (me)-opposition.

Of course I think that the natal placements play a role, composite MErcury in Cap a result of a Sag and Aqua-MErcury, that might have a different Capricorn-expression for our composite as if, both Mercuries`w ould have been in Capricorn, or in Pisces and Scorpio, I suppose.

[lumina]

BTW my brother and me also have composite Mercury in Cap, actually our Mercuries are sextile (his in Aqua, mine in Sag). We do talk a lot about job related things obviously, and other Cap stuff, but can be sort of serious about what others perceive to be most outlandish or crazy stuff (I think that is the natal placements coming into play).

in my composite with my Dad ther eis Mercury in CAp, too, actually conjunct my Venus - his Mercury is in Cap, though he is an Aqua-Sun. he definitely is a mix up there, but basically our conversations are more serious seemingly, and we can arrive at an agreement very easily.

in my composite with my Mom there is Mercury in Sag, conjunct my Mars - her Mercury is in Scorpio. it often seems that our debates are more engaged somehow, and we talk a lot about educational stuff, philosophies. However while basically we are on the same plate, we do differ in the "little things" oftentimes, and we are much more likely to really butt heads than my Dad and me; somehow with my Dad there is more of a "Live and let live" attitude, besides we are often having a similiar opinion on things, and if not, we are both more pragmatic about it.
With my Mom it is more likely we push each other`s red buttons from time to time. Of course daughters and mothers.
Though if we do agree on something, it is just as absolute. lol
But well we have a DW of Moon square Mercury in our synastry (my AQua Moon squaring her Scorpio-Mercury; her Virgo-Moon squaring my Sag - Mercury).

Well actually P`s best friend and me also have a Cappy-Mercury in our composite. HIs Mercury at the beginning of Pisces, mine at the end of Sag. I have sometimes marvelled at how we can be so matter of factly about the most silly things, treating it as if it was a serious matter, which often makes for some humurous situations.
Also I am aware that once we get started to show off a little (we are both unsufferable know it alls, but we both know it and do not take ourselves too seriously), challenging each others knowledge mostly and outwitting each other (but always with that playful attitude underneath) - well I usually lose. LOL - well if we really let those dark sides of intellectual snobism, we can pretend to have, loose, everyone else around us, listening to us, usually is getting lost and has no clue what we are even talking about, or why we are talking about it in this or that way.

[Ava]

Agreed lumina , but..

"Interesting that your Mercury falling on our synastric Sun (you)- Saturn (me)-opposition."

I guess you meant our Mercury.

So I guess we can only experience composite Mercury within 90° of our natal Mercury? So for me with 5° Aqua natal Mercury, my composite Mercuries must always land between 5° Scorpio and 5° Taurus? I can never experience the other half of the zodiac, I think.

MANY of my relationships have composite Mercury in Scorpio. So many that I think I must have just developed a whole side of my personality around communication of this type; I stand ready for it.

Edit: Just saw your post above. Yeah I think Cap Mercury is hilarious sometimes, when it wants to be...natally, and also in composite. Though I've witnessed two Cap Mercuries being very dry with each other before. Like a contest about who can care less while remaining polite.