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Post by FruityLlama on May 10, 2020 20:42:57 GMT
A comment I made on Violets thread inspired this thread. Of course, all signs are great when mature and their positives are most expressed/weak traits actively worked on etc.
I guess most people are a mix of enlightened and not so though...we're not all human buffets where personality traits can be chosen like pick n mix.
So my question is, which of the signs can you tolerate the most when they're at their most immature? Or, which negative traits do you not mind about a sign/s? Or, what negative traits do you actually find positive?
I know that each signs negative traits are subject to debate as not everyone perceives a typical negative trait as bad. For instance, I don't consider Capricorns attitude towards money that appalling. I suppose I could tolerate a really immature Libra, though I've not met one. They're just so well put together! I don't think indecisiveness/passive aggressiveness/ being self conscious about their image or whatever would enrage me. Annoying, sure, but I could tolerate it.
Please answer however you want to. And thank you!
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Post by 12YearsABlob on May 10, 2020 21:50:11 GMT
I suppose I could tolerate a really immature Libra, though I've not met one. They're just so well put together! I don't think indecisiveness/passive aggressiveness/ being self conscious about their image or whatever would enrage me. Annoying, sure, but I could tolerate it. Lol... Why, thank you, hon!
That's an interesting question. I came up with examples and counter-examples for just about each sign I've known.
One thing that stood out to me was the degree of immaturity. And the number of other "issues" they might have (such as attachment disorders and the like).
So, assuming a "normal" degree of immaturity, solely due to lack of experience (and without any major issues that make relating difficult), I'd say: Taurus, Gemini, and Virgo. Virgo would be amusing rather than annoying (AFAIR). Taurus - I've never really met an immature one either. I feel like they have a basic degree of common sense no matter what. Even if Taurus and Virgo might be inexperienced, their vibe is generally mellow and does not irritate me. An immature Gemini could be fine too, as long as you don't have to depend on them for anything.
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Post by FruityLlama on May 11, 2020 16:51:20 GMT
Haha yes Libra=  (Well, I suppose the whole zodiac deserves some love tbf) Oh yes, I didn't even consider actual disorders as such, just general immaturity or someone who expresses a lot of their signs negative traits, or like you say, inexperienced. I know I'm biased but I also don't find Taurus' supposed love for material things that bad either to be honest. I read people's posts on LL saying how much they hated Taurus for their love of the material world and luxury etc and I remember thinking...is that the worst trait in the world? Really? I get it could be really annoying if extreme and depending on circumstances, but still, you've got to live and enjoy life haha |
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Post by anela on May 11, 2020 19:32:16 GMT
I don't go by sign. I used to tolerate a lot, because we all have bad days, or our things that trigger us. I don't use the word "trigger" that much, because of the way it's used to deride people at times. It depends on the circumstance for me.
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Post by anela on May 11, 2020 20:29:34 GMT
Oh, I usually love Taureans, but I have met an immature one: my BIL. Who hit on me, and then denied it, then told my mother he was in love with me, and blamed it on alcohol and food poisoning. He basically hid behind my sister, the entire time. I won't go on a rant, I promise.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on May 12, 2020 10:48:28 GMT
I don't go by sign. I used to tolerate a lot, because we all have bad days, or our things that trigger us. I don't use the word "trigger" that much, because of the way it's used to deride people at times. It depends on the circumstance for me. Yeah, same here. It depends...there's a lot that could influence somebody's behaviour or relationship with you. |
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Post by Violets on May 12, 2020 21:20:35 GMT
Good topic!
I missed this yesterday, but this is nice.
I would say off the top of my head, Virgo, Sagittarius, and probably Libra. I’ll get back to this in a bit.
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Post by Electrode on May 15, 2020 6:36:11 GMT
It's hard to say since I tend to put up with a lot from people. I would say I could tolerate Leo and Sagittarius the most since I have spent my life around so many Sagittarian people. I grew up in a house with a lot of fire. My dad has a Sag Moon and he attracts all the Sagittarians of the world.
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Post by Violets on May 15, 2020 14:56:17 GMT
^ Yeah, I think I’m like that with Virgo, Sagittarius, and Libra. Although I’ve always had a lot of Leos in my family, and I have to admit their negative qualities grate on me more than other signs. Probably because I was too often the recipient of my older Leo cousins’ obnoxious antics, lol. (That said, I do love the Leos in my life. I mean, I married one, ha.)
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Post by FruityLlama on May 16, 2020 8:29:21 GMT
In my family there are a lot of water moons so I suppose I can tolerate those signs too.
I find leo a stressful sign tbh when immature or when the native chooses to express the bad side.
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Post by aquila on May 17, 2020 3:09:54 GMT
I've known a couple of intolerably childish Libras who were OLD. One had Taurus moon.
Also a babyfied Aquarius with a Leo Moon. Very hard to take for more than an hour.
I'm not saying this is good, but I've got Sat in Cap, 1st house, and I was born mature. Go figure.
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Post by geminiblues on May 17, 2020 6:01:31 GMT
Aries: Can go either way. If it's constant confrontation, then no.
Taurus: Too focused on money, suffers from penny wise pound foolish. Unwilling to even consider any thought that contradicts their own. Fortunately, they really have to be off the charts immature to get to that degree. I can deal with them until they get to the extreme
Gemini: One of the hardest for me. As a Gemini myself, I consider the manipulation, the gossip, and the two clever by half lies an abuse if Gemini gifts. Hard no.
Cancer: I can handle some degree of clinginess. I can handle some of the manipulation. Fortunately, Cancer doesn't stay in one state too long. Wait them out. The tide will change twice a day.
Leo: Who can stay mad at them? And why would you want too? My Leo moon gets them.
Virgo: The nagging gets a little old, but I've never had a long term problem...
Libra: Libra is my 12th. My Dad was a Libra. The trait I have the most problem with is their judgementalness. Being in my house, I keep feeling like they are secretly judging me, finding me coming up short, and lobbying their vast audience against me. House of hidden enemies. Pass.
Scorpio. The immature ones, the grey lizards, the scorpions... Just walk around them. Problem solved.
Sagittarius: Just take them for what they are. Have fun. Enjoy their company. Under no circumstances let them into a situation where their wounding honesty can create a liability.
Capricorn: Immature Capricorns rarely bother with me. I'm of no immediate use for their plans of world conquest. The mature ones are my weakness...
Aquarius: What is an immature Aquarius? What is a mature one? What the heck is "fixed air"? You know the lady in Harry Potter that made him write in blood? That's what my impression of a negative Aquarius is. So concerned with enforcement of their ideas that reality is irrelevant to their perception of how things "should" be. But that's my projection. I don't understand Aquarius.
Pisces: Another sign I rarely need to deal with. Love the moon or Venus here though.
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Post by geminiblues on May 17, 2020 17:10:43 GMT
As an afterthought, I have the toughest times with the negative version of the signs that fall in my 6th, 8th, 12th, and perhaps 4th and 7th houses. 4th and 7th houses are explained by being the houses houses where Saturn and Mars are placed, So, I have problems with the negative traits of 6th, 8th, and 12th houses. In other news, water is wet, sun rises in East, and night is dark.
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Post by FruityLlama on May 17, 2020 18:54:31 GMT
Hmm, that's interesting geminiblues.. My 2H Mars is in Leo, My 10H Saturn is in Pisces. Still mulling over my thoughts on Pisces to be honest as per Violets' thread. Not sure what to make of them when immature. But that brings me to the question regarding these planets and our perception of the signs they are in. I think because my Saturn is in Pisces, I can sometimes feel uncomfortable around the moons and to a lesser extent, the venuses, although it depends on what else is going on in the chart. Conversely, those who are little younger than me have Saturn in Taurus, and they always feel a little cold to me if it conjuncts my Moon. Female mars in aries can be weird too but I can probably explain that away with the fact that they'll square my ASC. Males for some reason I don't mind, but I suppose Mars sq ASC would have a slightly different meaning if its a male-female interaction (physical attraction or something perhaps). Sorry for the rambling, I'm just wondering if there is indeed any rhyme or reason, astrologically, to our likes and dislikes regarding other personality traits. Maybe it is a Mars/Saturn thing...because I'm not sure trine signs necessarily love each other, nor do I reckon square signs necessarily clash but perhaps the sun is a more tolerant planet and not indicative of our sore points, or whatever. Ooh here's a question (for everyone)...what's your perception of the sign your Chiron is in? Mine's in Virgo and I'm not sure yet haha |
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Post by Ava on May 23, 2020 19:17:30 GMT
Scorpio. The immature ones, the grey lizards...  Laughed out loud Answered this already and then deleted it because I changed my mind. I think my answer goes to Aquarius sun, I tolerate those best when they are immature. Much of Aqua is trine either my Mars or Pluto...mid-Aqua trines both...so I can blow off steam about their immaturity by being directly argumentative, and they stand their ground. So I don't feel guilty afterwards because they didn't care what I said anyway. |
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Post by aquila on May 28, 2020 10:03:14 GMT
Aries: Can go either way. If it's constant confrontation, then no. Taurus: Too focused on money, suffers from penny wise pound foolish. Unwilling to even consider any thought that contradicts their own. Fortunately, they really have to be off the charts immature to get to that degree. I can deal with them until they get to the extreme Gemini: One of the hardest for me. As a Gemini myself, I consider the manipulation, the gossip, and the two clever by half lies an abuse if Gemini gifts. Hard no. Cancer: I can handle some degree of clinginess. I can handle some of the manipulation. Fortunately, Cancer doesn't stay in one state too long. Wait them out. The tide will change twice a day. Leo: Who can stay mad at them? And why would you want too? My Leo moon gets them. Virgo: The nagging gets a little old, but I've never had a long term problem... Libra: Libra is my 12th. My Dad was a Libra. The trait I have the most problem with is their judgementalness. Being in my house, I keep feeling like they are secretly judging me, finding me coming up short, and lobbying their vast audience against me. House of hidden enemies. Pass. Scorpio. The immature ones, the grey lizards, the scorpions... Just walk around them. Problem solved. Sagittarius: Just take them for what they are. Have fun. Enjoy their company. Under no circumstances let them into a situation where their wounding honesty can create a liability. Capricorn: Immature Capricorns rarely bother with me. I'm of no immediate use for their plans of world conquest. The mature ones are my weakness... Aquarius: What is an immature Aquarius? What is a mature one? What the heck is "fixed air"? You know the lady in Harry Potter that made him write in blood? That's what my impression of a negative Aquarius is. So concerned with enforcement of their ideas that reality is irrelevant to their perception of how things "should" be. But that's my projection. I don't understand Aquarius. Pisces: Another sign I rarely need to deal with. Love the moon or Venus here though. This post is a joy, and I relate to it seeing a lot of the same things.
To answer your question, a heavy Saturn can make a very mature Aquarius, though you may not read it beyond the insane comedy we nail you with.
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Laughed out loud