Saturn in synastry vs composite

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I’ve found that Saturn is binding in synastry (hard and easy aspects) but the hard aspects (include conjunction) are very suffocating in composites. Those can indicate a lack of understanding or an unwillingness to understand the other’s POV because one is so critical of the other.

What have been your experiences ?

[Ava]

I don't know, as a Sag Venus, I think there is such a fine line between binding and suffocating.

As a Capricorn I seem to invite "constructive criticism" (I can put up with a ton of that if I think it contributes to my growth as a person, even at the expense of my emotional comfort) but all that pales in comparison to what I've drawn in as a Plutonian.

I think this doesn't answer your question. I think I've tended to have Saturn prominent in both synastry and composite at once, so it's hard to say.

Hope others have some ideas.

Pls don't quote

[12YearsABlob]

IME, it's not so much the degree of suffocation that changes, just the nature of it.

In synastry, the planets involved define the roles. Sometimes they're projected. In composite charts, it's hard to define "roles" - the energy permeates the relationship.

As I was saying on some other thread--in synastry, the personal planet in contact with Saturn is likely to feel oppressed. In composite charts, they're both likely to feel a 'heaviness'.

Having said that, Saturn can be as separating as it is binding. Saturnine rejection is pretty harsh, and without room for compromise. This might happen at the very beginning, when Saturn decides this 'relationship' is simply not worth the time, or not what he/she is looking for. Or it could happen much later, years down the road. It can build emotional walls that are impossible to knock down.

[Ava]

Love your insights 12YearsABlob.

I've had several relationships or friendships with a composite t-square with Saturn at the apex. What I've noticed is, these are not critical relationships. But they can be brittle, vulnerable relationships, where the level of feeling and compatibility is secondary to other concerns.

This is Saturn in Leo and probably the theme is, when the good times end, the relationship loses its way and sometimes just vanishes. There's no time to talk about what's going on or try and fix it. It's like "Good times or else." There is more to it, like I think that when good times return, circumstantially, Saturn is restored to health, and it's like the keystone of the arch goes back into place, the relationship is restructured.

[12YearsABlob]

Yeah, "brittle" - that was the word I was thinking of. If you don't bend, you will break. The same goes for relationships. That famously unbending nature of Saturn frequently results in a stalemate.

It takes a lot of emotional maturity on both parts to make these relationships work, IMO. Emotional maturity is most often confused with emotional repression. That's why those relationships don't work out. The ones I've seen do well are ones in which both partners are either equally repressed or equally mature, lol.

[lumina]

Very interesting discussion.

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Feb 25, 2020 3:35:02 GMT 12YearsABlob said:

IME, it's not so much the degree of suffocation that changes, just the nature of it.

In synastry, the planets involved define the roles. Sometimes they're projected. In composite charts, it's hard to define "roles" - the energy permeates the relationship.

As I was saying on some other thread--in synastry, the personal planet in contact with Saturn is likely to feel oppressed. In composite charts, they're both likely to feel a 'heaviness'.

Having said that, Saturn can be as separating as it is binding. Saturnine rejection is pretty harsh, and without room for compromise. This might happen at the very beginning, when Saturn decides this 'relationship' is simply not worth the time, or not what he/she is looking for. Or it could happen much later, years down the road. It can build emotional walls that are impossible to knock down.

Yes to everything, especially “this is not what I’m looking for.” Immediate rejection; not bothering to give it even a chance.

In synastry I think there’s more of a negotiation

[12YearsABlob]

^ Thanks! Although I wasn't commenting on whether negotiation is easier in synastry or composite (I don't know the answer to that). For me at least, I meant that instant 'no' happens in synastry (anecdotal, your mileage may vary).