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Post by Ava on Aug 16, 2019 23:16:11 GMT
This could go on forever if people are game for it. Post whatever you like that seems to fit the topic title. I'm especially interested in remarkable composite charts, whether it's with someone you like or dislike, or neither. Or if you are wild about a person, but the composite seems lackluster, we can discuss that, too. If you want. Just an idea.
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Post by Ava on Aug 16, 2019 23:30:08 GMT
I created this thread because I was kinda stunned to see my composite chart with Russell Brand. I've been listening to him for years, browsing his books, but he's too high-speed for me, so usually after a few pages I feel winded and quit. But now lately he's been putting out these short YouTube videos about spiritual topics, and I've been feeling like..."Oooo, preach!" Our composite: - New moon conjunct Vesta and Pallas in late Pisces, trine NN. That's really all I have to say here. But some minor details... - Composite asteroid Church is conjunct his sun (@ 12 Gemini). That figures because the "church" is wherever he films. lol - Meistereckhart near the MC...we both like Eckhart Tolle - Jupiter conjunct Mercury and Wisdom. Isn't that rich? - Saturn in the 3rd though. He's so unreachable. Communication issues.
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Post by anela on Aug 17, 2019 0:11:28 GMT
I think I had a good one with Ben Affleck. I had a crush on him years ago, and he married Jennifer Garner, who has an Aries Sun, Gemini Moon like me (can't remember her Venus, and I think she has a Libra ascendant). I checked Ralph Nader's chart, also, when I was first into astrology, because he made more sense to me than any of the mainstream politicians who were running for President, and I was pissed that they used their lawyers to get him knocked off the ballot. I wouldn't vote for him if he ran this year, but I thought they were upsetting the Democratic process by using their money and lawyers to take away a good choice from the American people. Might surprise Violets and a few other people. Nader's Uranus was conjunct my Ceres/Chiron/Sun, and Mercury more widely, in my 6th house.
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Post by anela on Aug 17, 2019 0:14:15 GMT
I also used to love Benicio Del Toro. My Mars conjunct his Sun, and he had a Gemini Moon. I can't remember much about his chart either.
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Post by lumina on Aug 17, 2019 8:53:07 GMT
Cool thread. This here is my go-to-celebrity composite. Crazy enough chance had it that I even saw him live, a few time, and my spider senses tell me I will do so again Not now of course. But eventually One of the most present and intense actors on stage, and very much unlike in his earlier films, a very edgy raw energy though it is like an undercurrent, until it erupts and well though it was just a performance I felt like hiding would be a good idea. Lol he was that good. Possibly I felt his scorpio Mars or even more likely his elevated pluto exact on my Mc as well square his own sun on my venus, back then transits were downright intrusive, too. Lol
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Post by lumina on Aug 17, 2019 8:58:20 GMT
AvaWow, that new moon in pisces with pallas, that is deep and spiritual. And I do thi k while subtle trines to the nodes are so nice. Also wondering a out that venus pluto, hmm.... Not very tight but it just was wi king at me. Lol
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Post by Ava on Aug 17, 2019 13:08:16 GMT
anela, Never would have guessed you liked Ben Affleck! But he seemed so sweet in the beginning. I don't remember why I like Benicio del Toro, it's been forever since I've seen him in any films. lumina, Your chart with the Everlasting Stellium (I just coined the term) exceeds my mental bandwidth. So much is on the nodes, with Saturn on the SN! And yet, you were never all that wrapped up in him were you? You're a fan, but it's not like the first P or something. I know he has a powerful effect on you though...how could he not? --- Not sure what to say about Russell Brand, honestly I don't give much thought to him physically, I just sort of trust him. But I think my energy is so subtle compared to his...he's got an Aries moon conjunct Mars....it's like we are different species. But he meditates, so if we were meditating together (if I ever learn to meditate) then that would be copacetic. He's trained himself to be chill, and I admire that a lot.
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Post by lumina on Aug 17, 2019 14:02:43 GMT
Ava well better not going to deep into that. Yeah in a way it was like the first P... just different. lol NOt quite a fan, never have been, not really, but hey he still comes irregularly into my dreams to keep me updated of what he`s up to (and sometimes downright feeling as if asking my permission? lol). just my weird life. At least the horrible past life dreams have stopped. I could write novels and movie scripts of each and any of them, but probably would not be feel-good-movies. But seriously Psyche on the Sun and NN is no joke! actually the funny thing is that the Draconic composite of course connects to all the squaring stuff (because the NN is almost on 00 Cap that happens). most interesting in terms of Kaali, Siva and our name asteroids. Interesting what you write about Russell Brund, being different species. How intriguing! And I am sure you can meditate. I mean you close your eyes and let the images come and go. (though I have been told by people, that it is not like a default function for some people, like it seems to me oftentimes. But you have a Pisces Moon of course you can meditate. And you do not need anyone telling you this and that. You sit or lay down close your eyes and feel the space, the sound of silence or whatever, and that`s basically it.)
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Post by anela on Aug 17, 2019 14:30:32 GMT
Oh, I've just remembered that Jane, from LL, once paired me up with Jon Stewart, in a thread like this, that was for fun. Something about me, and his chart. I used to have the biggest crush on him, too, and I still like him. I can't remember anything about his chart, though.
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Post by Ava on Aug 17, 2019 15:40:39 GMT
Oh, I've just remembered that Jane, from LL, once paired me up with Jon Stewart, in a thread like this, that was for fun. Something about me, and his chart. I used to have the biggest crush on him, too, and I still like him. I can't remember anything about his chart, though. Off the top of my head, your NN conjunct his sun..I think this opposes your moon...full moon synastry. www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Jon_StewartLots of Sag/Gem opposition energy in your synastry, plus your sun trine his moon.
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Post by FruityLlama on Aug 17, 2019 18:28:10 GMT
I don't know if it's exceptional but I have a really lovely composite with Jack White, not sure of houses though. It's similar to the one lumina posted but in Gemini, including the moon. It looks like a rainbow to me haha!! In synastry, his mars is on my Sun-Moon midpoint, my ASC is on his Sun-Moon MP, where his own Saturn also lies. I do like his music, intellect and persona etc, but I go through phases with how intensely I like him to be honest. That might be to do with our natal Cancer things plus composite Gem placements? Here is the composite of me and one of my favourite actors. I find him attractive, but I'm not super charged about him. I'm surprised to find a yod in there though: And here is a composite of me and someone I do have a little crush on, but again they are more like a celebrity so I don't think that's amoral?? With the third composite person, as far as I can tell, I find we have very similar beliefs about life and values. This person's career is based on commentary and journalism actually so it is very plain in terms of their values etc. They come from the same county/region and had a similar upbringing and our mothers have similar jobs in health servicing. Not sure that is clear from the composite alone, or even the synastry actually. Natally this person is a triple Gemini, fellow Aries venus but not conjunct mine, early Libra mars and Scorpio Jupiter which opposes my luminaries. In fact depending on their TOB, we may have moon opp. Jupiter DW which may appear in the composite too. We have jupiter Q mars DW in synastry though- I've always found that intriguing but probably doesn't hold much weight. However, with those Jupiter aspects, I wonder if that is what explains those things in common. I wouldn't say the composite is breathtaking though?
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Post by lumina on Aug 17, 2019 20:52:08 GMT
Ava how sweet of you to say that, well those tales... they are not all that pretty actually, well not really wanting to get into this here I think. As for meditations, well yes I know , there are official instructions and methods and so on, for me they are an add on, inspiring hopefully, but the basics is really finding that quiet place inside yourself, and that is it, if you strip down to the bare bones of it. Of course now all the meditation gurus will tell me otherwise. Well the meaning of the word actually is: to reflect, to ponder, to contemplate.
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Post by Ava on Aug 18, 2019 0:33:01 GMT
OMG FruityLlama, Jack White was born the same day and year as my middle school crush (the guy who came to my surprise party when I turned 14, went into my bedroom, found my diary...and I walked in as he was reading it. The diary was almost exclusively about how much I loved him. 😂 That really happened.) Astrologically we have similar taste in guys, then? Don't just go inviting Jack White to your house, though...these guys snoop. Anyway that is an amazing composite. I'm jealous of you and lumina because I think I've never had a huge stellium in composite like that. But I do find stellia (stelliums?) binding, even if they are smaller. I just wonder what a larger stellium must feel like...especially when it's hit by transits. "I go through phases with how intensely I like him to be honest." I think lumina has mentioned several times before that the main trouble with a large stellium in composite is that everything gets hit within a short time frame, say when the moon is transiting conjunct those planets, and then there are crickets. So I wonder if that's a factor. - Nice yod in the second composite w/Venus at apex - Third composite, you said "amoral" -- my Sag Venus is very sad if innocent crushes are bad.... "However, with those Jupiter aspects, I wonder if that is what explains those things in common." Interesting theory. I wonder if you two might have the same ASC or same house placement for Jupiter...the moon-Jupiter DW and similarities with your mothers is really intriguing. I have a lot in common with Bradley Cooper...I don't know any celebrity I am more similar to when it comes to birthday, age, location, ethnic background. But spiritually I think I am way more on the same wavelength as Russell Brand, whom I seem to have absolutely nothing in common with. Yet Cooper's Jupiter is in Pisces, Brand's is tightly conjunct mine in Aries. Hmm
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 10:48:18 GMT
Given that many members of this board have ongoing interchanges and common interests, there should be some good composites amongst us.
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Post by lumina on Aug 18, 2019 19:33:51 GMT
Avawell if it is hit, that stellium, it is one thing after the other... bam... bam...bam. You hardly can come up for air, and then, like you said. lol crickets. And you are starting to miss being put through the wringer. lol Though that is actually true in terms of P and my compospite, as I feel it, but there is not that large of a stellium there. I also think while stellia are generating a lot of focus and attentiona and ARE important (they indicate the very direct resonance between charts. well any tight conjunction or opposition in a composite is about that resonance between natals, but with stellia you have several of those lumped together), I do like to see at least some of the planets in the stellium having an outlet somewhere else, a trine or sextile or even a freaking square to preferably two planets at different places, to make this circuit and the energy in it flowing. Three planets at different spots aspecting each other have that energy-flow to them and they are working in union. Well this is of course true of stellia too, if there are three planets or more, but the problem is that it is like sending the energy to just a very narrow space, and it might heat up too much and the whole thing go up in flames if it gets too much. That and the crickets-phenomenon is the reason I am not too fond of huge stellia, I do like some conjunctions, but if everything is condensed at one place, it seems to me like this is a relationship with a sole purpose (where that stellium resides) and well for my mutable chart this is too fixated, it becomes compulsive, obsessive, in the sense of revolving only around that one thing without even being able to see anything else. In worst case scenarios only of course. But well it does generate energy and focus, so that is good I guess. But honestly the marriages and relationships that I have seen actually work, usually do not have a sole stellium; they seem to have at least 2 or 3 "focal areas". For example my brother and his wife do have a stellium in Pisces in their composite: Mercury, Sun, Venus from 16-23 Pisces, but they also have Pluto, Moon and SAturn from 00 - 10 Scorpio. Their Pisces Stellium, esp. Sun at 23 Pisces, is squaring Jupiter on 25 Sag and sextile Chiron on 25 Taurus. Their Moon-Pluto on 3 and 0 Scorpio squaring Mar son 1 Aqua (well not sure how good that one is, but this reminds me of their Italian like drama-soapopera scenes in the beginning, with my sister in law throwing my brother`s stuff out of the window and him taking off to never be seen again, because my brother loathes drama! lol Well apparently they found a way to cope better with any kind of insecurities arising or disagreements, cause now the only one throwing stuff is their little son. lol and they are very harmonious with each other, of course with some disagreements arising now and then, but well I guess she found a way to trust that my brother will not just run away, like her Dad did. in fact after the birth of the little one her Dad and her even reconciled. And my brother learned that it is not always the right way to avoide disagreements by just disappearing - is that a Sag-Moon-thing? like: if it does feel disharmonious and not so good anymore, I will just walk away and trusting if I come back, the issues have vanished or been taken care of?) well their MOon-Mars also sextiles Neptune. For my parents, well they have Mercury, Sun and Chiron from 15-23 Sag, with Sun exactly trine Pluto on the ASC and sextile Neptune. Also a widish Moon-Uranus from 14 to 7 Cancer, and in particular the Uranus making a Grand trine with Jupiter on 9 Pisces and Juno on 8 Scorpio And they have Mars-Saturn on the SN (26-28-24 Virgo) with Saturn out of sign sextile Venus on 1 Sag. Maybe that is enough. well Chiron on 23 Sag squares it, but well they have been married for 45 years, and pretty happy and most of all lovingly, so I guess it must have been manageable. But as you can see neither has that large overarcing stellium, more like some smaller focal areas and connected to something else, as an outlet.
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Post by Ava on Aug 19, 2019 0:09:31 GMT
^ Thanks for the thorough answer lumina , "That and the crickets-phenomenon is the reason I am not too fond of huge stellia, I do like some conjunctions, but if everything is condensed at one place, it seems to me like this is a relationship with a sole purpose (where that stellium resides) and well for my mutable chart this is too fixated, it becomes compulsive, obsessive, in the sense of revolving only around that one thing without even being able to see anything else." My progressed composite with my husband had a stellium in Scorpio, when I became infatuated that one night. Sudden infatuation, and the pr comp IC @ 7 Scorpio was exact on my pr Uranus. Pr comp had this in the 4H ~ no wonder I was obsessed? 15 Scorpio NN 20 Scorpio Mercury 22 Scorpio Neptune 28 Scorpio sun 29 Scorpio Venus Pr comp stellia forming and falling apart, that's a fascinating phenomenon in my opinion, because I've seen how sometimes the people do become more distant once the temporary stellium breaks down. Or they can be super-glued together in the tightness phase. "...is that a Sag-Moon-thing? like: if it does feel disharmonious and not so good anymore, I will just walk away and trusting if I come back, the issues have vanished or been taken care of?)" I really haven't known many Sag moons. My Sag rising father walked out of arguments, his ASC sextile sun-Mars. I'm kinda glad he did. My mother could get angry but I never heard a peep back. It's amazing how crazy people get in relationships. My brother's ex girlfriend, I think she called the cops on him to report that he had unpaid parking tickets? I heard that and thought they must hate each other. Nope. Still friends, 30 years later.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Aug 19, 2019 1:38:32 GMT
- is that a Sag-Moon-thing? like: if it does feel disharmonious and not so good anymore, I will just walk away and trusting if I come back, the issues have vanished or been taken care of?) Yeah, sounds like it. This is what annoyed the cr*p out of me, back in the day. Knew a lot of Sag moon people then. My other gripe was that, they expected me to just "get over it" as easily as they did, with no...attempt as resolution or reconciliation. Actually, a lot of Sag energy is like that... The first signs of discomfort, and they're OUT, lol. But they're mutable, so they also come back. It's just that they can't process this 'less than ideal' state, that would ruin their image of us as perfectly happy people. I know I don't need to add this disclaimer for you guys, but if any non-regulars are reading: Not talking about all Sag energy, of course. Just a certain expression of it.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Aug 19, 2019 1:39:33 GMT
My progressed composite with my husband had a stellium in Scorpio, when I became infatuated that one night. Sudden infatuation, and the pr comp IC @ 7 Scorpio was exact on my pr Uranus. Pr comp had this in the 4H ~ no wonder I was obsessed? How could you not be infatuated, with that stellium? Wow!
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Post by lumina on Aug 19, 2019 11:11:54 GMT
Ava wow! What a stellium, in Scorpio!!! Also with stellia I like to see where the midpoint of the "bracket-ends" is falling and if by chance something is conjunct. In the case of your Stellium, the bracket is formed by NN and Venus and their midpoint is on 22 Scorpio, so basically to me that would say that the backbone or whatever you want to call it is Neptune = Venus/NN And of course Sun is very very closely attached to Venus. But anyway I´d think that must have felt like the ideal relationship, the perfect romance and possibly at the beginning it even felt spiritual? Like a soulmate of some sort? I mean Neptune can manifest in many different ways of course. Actually I just made the backbone-thing up. LOL Never really checked it regularly, even though I have now and then thought about that this might be an important thing to check, just never got around doing it, but in your case it was just so glaringly obvious. lol Hmm, how would that be in terms of Mr Law and me, I suppose we would see the beginning of the stellium on 22 Sag (I tend to not use asteroids in this, but if I were, of course it would start with Pallas, maybe that is true, too). I guess I wouldn`t start with the 8 Sag thing, because there is crickets in bwetween 8 and 20 Sag. I would however see it stretching up to the Sun (and Psyche if using asteroids) So if using asteroids that would put Pallas and Psyche at the brackets ends and their midpoint would be at 26 Sag, well there is nothing there directly, but of course my natal Sun falls there (and the Venus/NN-mp in the composite). Just focusing on the planets the brackets would be Moon (by just a couple of minutes "beating" Mercury. lol) and Sun, and the Sun/Moon or even Sun/Mercury-mp is on 27°09 Sag, so within orb to conjunct NN, albeit not extremely closely. Sun/Mercury is closer to the NN, and Sun/Venus is very closely conjunct the NN (28°11 Sag // 28°30 Sag). Possibly makes sense. I do appreciate his acting skills after all. "Pr comp stellia forming and falling apart, that's a fascinating phenomenon in my opinion, because I've seen how sometimes the people do become more distant once the temporary stellium breaks down. Or they can be super-glued together in the tightness phase. " Yes, that is a good point. "My Sag rising father walked out of arguments," My Dad does that too, it drives my mom crazy. lol (he has Sag-IC) Though lately he has started to stand his ground more, albeit in a detached way, which leads sometimes to the feeling as if you are observing 14 year old kids nagging each other. lol Their fights are really more of entertainment value though. lol
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Post by lumina on Aug 19, 2019 11:22:01 GMT
12YearsABlob well I have a Sag-stellium, and I have Mars-Neptune on the Sag-ASC, I guess I am guilty of that as well. lol Or actually I can really like erupt and blow up and be totally angry and then turn around, start laughing because the whole situation suddenly seems so absurd to me and realize that mostly it is about my own disappointment or whatever and not the fault of the other person. But I am able to say I am sorry at least. Sometimes. If I remember. I hate the feeling of really hurting other people though, and can feel really bad about it for a very long time. Event hough I might never say a word, it is not because I do not think they are worthy of an apology, but usually it is more me feeling I do not deserve forgiveness, and what`s done, has been done, and no matter how sorry I am I cannot change it. So I guess I can easily say Sorry for the little things, it`s the bigger ones that are more problematic, not because I do not feel sorry, but because I do not want to make things worse for the other person by bringing it up again, maybe they totally moved on from that, so it would be no good even talking about it. Though if someone gives indications they want to talk it out, I have learned to face up to it. Even though it really is not what makes me feel very happy, but in this instance then it would be more about the other person and not about me.
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