New love—will this last?

[clementine]

Y'all.

I've just begun a new romance with a longtime friend, and I'm startled by how quickly it feels like I'm falling in love with this person. We've known each other for years already, but we were always just involved with other people and I never thought he was attracted to me! He asked me out totally out of the blue the day after the Capricorn eclipse, which was opposite his Mercury/North Node. 

I'm trying to be cautious because we've been dating less than two weeks, but I'm already falling real hard and we're talking about the future like this is going to last a long time. I also know people's brains get STUPID when all the love hormones start pumping, so I'd love an outside perspective. 

You all were so generous and helpful with your interpretations last time I brought up a relationship question—if anyone feels inspired to have a go at this synastry I'd be really grateful! I'm C and he's S on the charts. I can also add the additional synastry tables if anyone wants them, I always find them easier to read than the biwheel. 

Thank you! 
xoxo
C

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What does the composite look like?

I mean you have the same moon sign, near Chiron
Your suns get along. Your venus are both flighty and your mars are both passive

You kinda both want some social life but can chill too. It’s great for functioning relationship/ friendship and since you both have Taurus moon it’ll be what you generally want any way

[12YearsABlob]

Well, first of all, congratulations! Glad to hear you're happy with this guy. And it's so sweet you've known each other for many years as friends.

Jan 17, 2019 21:41:38 GMT clementine said:

He asked me out totally out of the blue the day after the Capricorn eclipse, which was opposite his Mercury/North Node. 

Amazing timing. He has a water mercury square Saturn, though. Even though it seemed 'out of the blue', it might've been stewing beneath the surface for a long time...

Be back later to take a closer look at your charts. Your composite Juno-Vesta-MC is certainly eyeball-grabbing (if I estimated the dates right, lol). xD

P.S. Hope you don't mind the nosiness, I just wanted to see the composite right away.

[Ava]

Yes I agree, this is so nice! I love your matching moons.

Your ASC-Neptune on his DSC, with transiting Venus and Jupiter there, expanding the fondness between you two.

So many questions...I wonder if his progressed sun is conjunct your Saturn... and is the composite sun on his IC?

Waiting for more details

[lumina]

Well the first thing my eyes were drawn to was the T-square of your Moon with his Venus-Uranus-square, and your Moon on his Chiron. I actually think that can go either way and it is never easy to say with dynamic Uranus-synastry. Some couples really soar with that kind of electricity, for others it is just like a shooting star, extremely bright for a moment and gone and unretrievable the next (the moment can last a few weeks/ months though).

What it definitely is is exciting, electric and also with Uranus involved makes sense that there is the friendship factor plus that it seemingly came out of the blue. with a Venus-Uranus-square he will need a lot of input (mentally or otherwise) and either not being the most stable relationship partner, or could be projecting the Uranus part on other people.
It depends a lot how your Taurus Moon will be able to vibe with that over a longer period of time, in a good way he certainly "wakes you up" with Uranus opposing your Moon, bringing a lot of that intense electric impulses to your emotions, really kickstart them.

But I see that he has Venus-Uranus natally and you have Venus-Neptune. You are both seeking out very profound and "special" romantic experiences, but they are not the same kind. With Venus - Neptune you are intensely romantic and the question is if he can really meet these hopes in the long run. I see that his Saturn makes harmonious aspects (sextiles/ trine) to your Venus-Neptune, which could actually be a really good thing, in stabilizing that connection and despite his own Venus-Uranus he might bring stability to YOUR Venus-Neptune. I think that there will be some disillusioning happening down the line, depending on how high and idealistic your expectations were to begin with, but Saturn sextile Venus is a nice aspect for the long haul and bringing some groundedness in that "flying-high" Venus-synastry.

With your Moon on his Chiron there is a deep emotional effect there, well both ways, but esp. he might feel very vulnerable around you, like he cannot keep up defences against you. you get under his skin. And Chiron-synastry is often extremely physical, as in sensual (Cheiro means: hand, and so this one also has to do with Reiki and such things).

BTW I think I spot some DW in your synastry like
Sun sextile Moon
a very very wide Moon-Uranus-opposition
Moon conjunct Chiron


those could feature in the composite chart depending on the orb and aspect angle (either replicating the aspects or coming up as conjunction/opposition), might be that some orbs are too wide.
There could also be a Mars-Node-connection in the composite.

I definitely think you should check the composite out. Especially aspects within about 2 degree orb seem to lay out the major themes, along with the conjunctions-oppositions and the overlays to the natals.


also your Saturn on his NN, his Pluto square your NN - there is probably something very karmic going on, feels quite fated and is meant to change your lives in a way I guess. Doesn´t say in what form of relationship that is going to happen, but you probably will be very bonded to each other, albeit it`s a Saturn-Pluto-bond, and that can get a little exhausting at times. 

[Ava]

lumina

Interesting read there...

clementine is the Virgo.

[12YearsABlob]

First off, both your luminaries support each other. That can go a long way toward maintaining friendly relations even if it doesn't work out.

Your Neptune-Asc might be especially attractive to his Venus-Neptune. You guys have a Venus-Mars double whammy, as well as Moon-Chiron. That Venus-Mars quintile is quite a fun-filled pocket of your relationship. You'll have a chemistry there that you might not have anticipated as friends.

Other than that, what really draws him to you is his Mercury-Saturn being involved with your Pluto-NN. Natally, he has the square, with Saturn as a skipped step. Your Saturn making nice sextiles to his Venus & Mars, and his Saturn on your NN would make it seem like *you* are the way to solve that skipped step - by committing to you.

The Venus-Saturn theme continues into composite and Davison, so the feelings are likely sincere and a 'slow-burn'. However, his Taurus moon is not used to any amount of Uranian contact, so your Uranus opposing it might seem at once thrilling and threatening. He won't be able to keep his walls up with you, like lumina said. And your DW Moon-Chiron does carry over into the composite as well, with the NN at a critical degree on your Saturn. As Ava pointed out, that composite Sun on his IC only increases the emotional impact this has on him. 

With composite Mars-Jupiter on the NN, you're compelled to make a go of it together, with gusto. However, your harmonious Sun-Moon synastry somehow becomes a square in the composite. So, each needs to beware of trying to get their needs met through the relationship - because that expectation sets one up for disappointment. Additionally, this Sun-Moon square is in contact with Uranus. So, both of you need to be very allowing for each other's individuality. It might be just one of you that's fiercely independent, but it could be both. One person might be just 'living their life', or so they think, and the other one feels neglected. Communication is key! I don't need to tell you that, a Virgo. Good communication will also help with the composite Mars-Uranus square.

Speaking of which, you guys have really different communication styles. Having known him for many years, you might've built up a rapport beyond that. Your retrograde Mercury can relate to his Merc-Saturn, and he'll learn to appreciate the whimsy of your Merc-Neptune.

I'd say that your Mars-Jupiter might find his Mars-Saturn-Pluto a bit of a stick-in-the-mud, until you see it in action. Despite different ways of going about things, your overall values are very compatible (and that is usually a big deal), so you might be able to make stylistic compromises in the light of the greater good. Especially since this seems like an important relationship, what with the nodes and all the outer planets involved. If you do end up together, people will look up to you as quite the committed partnership (Juno-Vesta-MC).

[clementine]

Hi all!

Wow, thanks for all your supportive insights! And here’s the composite to play with. I see a lot of connections between our natal charts and the composite, but I’m not quite sure how to read them. I’m also a little nervous about that 6th house emphasis—I had that in my last relationship and always felt like there was something imbalanced between us. Hoping it can mean other things as well—like that this relationship will be healing or service oriented…?

@12yearsablob, you’re so right that he plays his cards close to his chest. I hadn’t noticed that Mercury-Saturn square. And yes, Vesta and Juno are on the composite MC!

@ava, the composite Sun is loosely conjunct his IC, yes! Also, his AC is exactly conjunct the comp. IC, while my Sun/Mercury are closely conjunct the comp. DC. What does it all mean?

lumina, you’ve voiced some things I’ve had an eye on as well—and yes, as I’m the more Uranian one in the duo I’m a little worried I may get bored with something so sweet, easy, and consistent. This feels like a calmer love than I’m used to, which my Taurus Moon and Cancer Mars LOVE but which my Leo Venus-square-Uranus feels pretty anxious about. And yes, your DW spotting was on point! I’m curious how this Moon-Chiron especially is going to play out—it’s already the most sensual, cuddliest, connection I’ve ever wanted to stay in. I have a feeling we’ll be doing a lot of healing together. And yep, there’s a Mars-NN conjunction in the composite.

@12yearsablob, yes all that Saturn! I have been pretty floored by how quickly we’ve been like, “oh, this is real. Okay. So, when are we visiting your family next summer and when do we visit mine?” My last partnership lasted for 7 years and was way more independent; I only met my partner’s mother once, by accident.

It’s funny how our harmonious DW Sun-Moon connections become square in the composite. I like your interpretation of that a lot—that things can feel so good it’s important not to overburden the relationship and turn to it for all our needs. Right now I’m experiencing myself as the one who needs a little more space and freedom, but he’s told me he’s often that person in a relationship, so we’ll see how it unfolds.

As for communication, yeah, what’s funny is my best friend in the world has her Mercury in the same degree of Cancer and they remind me a lot of each other in how they communicate. So I already know what’s frustrating or opaque in our way of talking. His Merc-Saturn is a little harder for my Merc-Neptune, as he chooses his words with precision while I often talk in hyperbole! And yes, our values are PROFOUNDLY aligned, which makes me feel ready to overlook a lot of minor differences in style.

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[Ava]

Jan 24, 2019 23:34:11 GMT clementine said:

@ava, the composite Sun is loosely conjunct his IC, yes! Also, his AC is exactly conjunct the comp. IC, while my Sun/Mercury are closely conjunct the comp. DC. What does it all mean?

Sorry for my late reply!

I love seeing those types of connections, in a case where longevity is desired. I'm not the best at interpretations, but I think natal ASC = comp IC would give him a sense of belonging within the relationship, possibly melding into it. This is Gemini so maybe it represents him feeling mentally at home with you, trusting you to listen...his chatter might fill the atmosphere, his ideas for interior design might hold sway if you ever live together, he might seem capable of intuitively envisioning the right kind of space...or perhaps this means his bookcases will be taking over your rooms, I don't really know (looking WAY ahead at possibilities). I like that you two have the inverted ASC/DSC signs, even if they aren't tightly conjunct, you two might have really good timing with each other. 

And I think your sun/Mercury on the comp DSC indicates commitment, but also possibly...you might have the upper hand with designing the relationship itself, and with Virgo DSC, everything could be picturesque, with high standards and goals, methodical and efficient. Saturn in the comp 7H indicates serious effort, hardship, maybe sticking it through despite an apparent wanderlust...Saturn square 10H Sag Neptune....or there could be travel, interruptions, much time devoted to big dreams at the expense of order within the relationship, like missed calls or frustrations keeping everything running smoothly.

Just some guesses because I am still just trying to get a feel for interpretation. 

For what it's worth if my chart is correct then my composite sun with my husband is on my natal IC and we've been together over 20 years...our comp IC-Saturn conjunct his moon. I like natal planets hitting composite angles and vice versa, it's like anchor points. 

Hope others can chip in with some insights.