Natal draconic chart aspects to regular composite

[Ava]

Do you think there's something to this?

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[lumina]

Ava

yes I think there is a lot to it actually, like you mentioned, too. That the togetherness, the way you connect with somebody in the here and know triggers a more meaningful layer in you, I mean a growth-oriented one, like tapping into an unused resource inside of you and bringing it out, and not just the other person but the way you relate to each other does it. I guess I would pay most attention to the conjunction, opposition and square, but that is just my pick.

[12YearsABlob]

Okay, the first one that popped in my head is kinda funny.

My tropical composite/Davison Sun/Moon (on the nodes) with somebody is on their mother's draconic Sun/Moon. I've always thought of him as a "momma's boy". And he once called ME mom (sarcastically, because I was asking him to do something). Ha. Is that why he finds comfort in our relationship? Because it's a familiar energy, reminds him of his mom? Ummm... Kay, moving on.

Others:

    My tropical composite with a colleague has Sun/Moon on both of our draconic luminaries. We are a reall good team.

    Composite Venus on their draconic moon, and my tropical Sun.

    Tropical Composite Sun/Moon opposition on my draco moon, and their draco Venus-Jupiter-Saturn

    Several Composite planets on my draconic Venus/Jupiter and their tropical Mars.

[12YearsABlob]

Re: OP, I do feel like these links keep us involved. Draconic planets are always seeking expression, vaguely pulsing in and out of conscious grasp. Anchoring through our own or another person's natal planets is one way they manifest in the here and now. Tropical composites have a similar pull, I suppose. Except now, the attachment is not just to you the person, but the relationship itself. They might find it hard to pinpoint why they feel so attached(?)

[Ava]

Nov 6, 2018 18:47:51 GMT 12YearsABlob said:

Re: OP, I do feel like these links keep us involved. Draconic planets are always seeking expression, vaguely pulsing in and out of conscious grasp. Anchoring through our own or another person's natal planets is one way they manifest in the here and now. Tropical composites have a similar pull, I suppose. Except now, the attachment is not just to you the person, but the relationship itself. They might find it hard to pinpoint why they feel so attached(?)

Yes yes yes

[lumina]

What orbs do we use?

[12YearsABlob]

Orbs schmorbs.
Ok, I dunno - up there, I was listing those within 3° but I'm flexible about that.

[12YearsABlob]

^Won't you count Comp Venus also on your draco Mars? That's pwetty close.

[lumina]

Well in our case a lot of oppositions show up. 

c-ASC conjunct my Draco Pluto (3)
c-Sun opposite my Draco Ceres
c-Moon conjunct my Draco MC
c-SN conjunct my Draco Vesta exact
c-Mars opposite my Draco Venus
c-Jupiter conjunct my Draco Moon, a bit over three degrees
c-Saturn opposite my Draco Uranus exact

c-Uranus conjunct my Draco Vertex, Eros and Sun/Moon-mp

c-Pluto opposite my Draco Sun-Mercury exact
c-Ceres conjunct my Draco Mars-ASC


c-DESC conjunct his Draco Moon widely (4 degrees)
c-IC conjunct his Draco Pluto widely (3,5)
c-Moon opposite his Draco Sun
c-Moon conjunct his Draco IC widely (4 degrees) and opposite his Draco Moon by 4 degrees
c-Venus opposite his Draco Neptune (3) (his Draco Neptune falling onto Moon/Venus-mp in composite; c-Moon falling onto his Draco Sun/Neptune-mp)
c-Mars conjunct his Draco ASC exact
c-Mars opposite his Draco Saturn
c-Jupiter opposite his Draco Chiron
c-Saturn conjunct his Draco Venus
c-NN conjunct his Draco ASC (3,5)
c-Chiron conjunct his Draco Vertex
c-Vertex conjunct his Draco Venus exact
c-Antivertex conjunct his Draco Juno
c-Ceres opposite his Draco Pallas exact
c-Juno conjunct his Draco Pluto

[Ava]

^ Lots of good stuff there lumina

[Ava]

This thread's 2 year anniversary, kind of. I guess I deleted a lot, my apologies.

I'm thinking, the more exact the aspect, the clearer the resonance. Looking at your exact aspects lumina...

"c-Mars conjunct his Draco ASC exact" To me that looks like something. As if he would automatically pick up on the physical potential. The other exact aspects are interesting but more difficult for me to grasp, like c-Saturn opp your draco Uranus. (Limitations on the relationship stir you up?) I assume you didn't want to get into a long conversation about it; the aspects alone are just interesting to me....

My husband's draco sun is conjunct composite moon (4°) but squares comp Uranus-Pluto more tightly, and that all seems to fit.

When we got together, we had a pr comp stellium in late Scorpio, opposing my draco sun, trine my draco moon.

[lumina]

Ava

oh forgot about this, but yes, c-Mars to his Draco ASC is certainly interesting; it also picks up the Draco composite IC, and DRaco composite MC is falling exact on his Draco Saturn and my Draco Venus (25 Aries, all three of them )

c-Mars and c-NN are also conjunct his tropical Pluto (2 degrees, 1 degree). and opposing my tropical Chiron (3 degrees, 00 degrees).

c-Saturn opposing my Draco Uranus, yes. also c-ASC square my tropical Uranus (and conjunct Draco composite Saturn).

I like the Draco sun of your husband conjunct composite Moon, even at 4 degrees, and yeah there might be some tumultous developments with Uranus-Pluto.

also the get together occurrences seem very fitting.

[Ava]

Thanks lumina

I wonder if these connections actually matter, draco chart to composite. Any significant examples in your databank (if you get bored and feel like checking?)

With my husband and ex, both have a draconic luminary in Aqua squaring our composite nodes (tropical). College BF's draco sun exactly conjunct composite Neptune (he introduced me to drugs, weird music, and his exotic aquarium fish). Well I don't feel like reliving everything, Mercury's direct now...

Composite moon with my father is conjunct my draconic sun @ 25 Taurus. That composite moon is the apex of a yod with Venus (conjunct his sun-Mars) and Sag Mercury.

I always wondered where my draconic sun came from, since draconic is often hereditary or family-linked. Yet there is no obvious pattern that points to 25 Taurus, the degree seems to come out of nowhere. But maybe it's this yod?

Composite with my mother also features a yod: 5 Aries apex, 6 Virgo Pluto, 4 Scorpio sun.

My draconic MC @ 6 Virgo conjunct composite Pluto.
Her draconic Jupiter @ 6 Virgo.

I guess there's more but the yods got my attention and honestly nothing else jumped out at me.

Pls don't quote

[lumina]

Ava

if we agree that Draco means something in general (and we do!), then of course composite To Draco natal should matter.

I`d think it would maybe give a more direction-oriented/ purposeful kind of connection/ or feeling. like certain aspects of the connection seem to pull or push us towards some development.

The thing about the Yods is also very interesting, so 6 Virgo must have been a really big one for your mother and you. I wonder if it showed up in important events as transits or progressions.
#and of course compoiste Moon to Draco Sun, is pretty, wow!

[lumina]

Been skimming through some examples.

my parents

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° composite MC on 27 Aries conjuncts my Mom`s Draco Jupiter on 27 Aries exact (my Dad`s Draco Moon is on 21 Aries, I wouldn`t really count it as a conjunction, but there is a sign resonance)

° c-Sun on 19 Sag opposes my Dad`s Draco Uranus on 21 Geminie (curiously right where P`s Draco Uranus is!)

° c-Venus (and true Priapus) on 1 Sag conjunct my Mom`s Draco Mercury and my Dad`s Draco IC, both on 4 Sag

° c-Mars on 26 Virgo, C-Saturn on 28 Virgo and c-SN on 24 Virgo conjunct my Dad`s Draco Mars on 29 Virgo and Draco Juno on 24 Virgo, and my Mom`s Draco IC on 1 Libra (the c-Saturn might be close enough)

° c-Jupiter on 9 Pisces oppposite my Mom`s Pluto on 12 Virgo and my Dad`s Saturn-ASC conjunction on 9-8 Virgo

° c-Uranus on 7 Cancer opposite her Juno on 4 Cap and his Mercury on 9 Cap

° c-Neptune on 18 Libra conjunct her Moon on 19 Libra, and opposite his Moon on 21 Aries and conjunct his true Priapus on 22 Libra

They do have some interesting DRaco-Draco-synastry in general

her Sun on 25 Scorpio sextile his Sun on 25 Cap (only mentioning it cause it is exact, also puts their Draco composite Sun right on my tropical Sun)

her Moon on 19 Libra opposite his Moon on 21 Aries

her DESC on 4 Aqua conjunct his Venus on 4 Aqua nd Jupiter on 2 Aqua

her ASC conjunct his Pluto on 7 Leo

- so she makes his Venus-Jupiter-Pluto angular

her IC on 1 Libra on his Mars on 29 Virgo

her Mercury on 4 Sag conjunct his IC on 4 Sag andf Chiron on 8 Sag (same as in P`s chart actually, he also has Dr Chiron on 8 Sag)

her Venus on 9 Libra and Mars on 5 Libra conjunct his Neptune on 7 Libra

her Uranus on 5 Leo opposite his Venus on 4 Aqua nd Jupiter on 2 Aqua and conjunct his Pluto on 7 Leo

her Pluto on 12 Virgo conjunct his Saturn on 9 Virgo and ASC on 8 Virgo

So they have a Pluto-ASC-conjunction-DW in the Dracos.

[lumina]

P and his wife

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° cSun on 17 Aqua (c-Mercury 13 Aqua) conjunct her Dr Sun on 19 Aqua and opposite her Dr Juno on 15 Leo

° c-Mars and c-NN on 10 Cancerr conjunct his Mercury on 8 Cancer and square his Mars-Jupiter on 9-8 Aries, and also square her Saturn on 8 Libra

° c-Saturn and c-Pluto on 27 Libra, conjunct her Uranus on 29 Libra and opposite his Saturn on 25 Aries (DESC on 24 Aries) and square his Sun-Moon on 25 and 27 Cancer

° c-Uranus on 5 Sag conjunct his Chiron on 8 Sag

° c-Venus on 6 Pisces squares it

° c-Juno on 00 Virgo opposite her Mercury-Venus on 28 Aqua and his Juno on 26 Aqua (personally the orb of 4 degrees for an asteroid is a bit wide for my taste, but obviously his Dr Juno conjuncts her Dr Mercury-Venus) - composite Juno also conjuncts his tropical NN on 1 Virgo

[lumina]

My best friend and me
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Just wanting to look up a platonic connection for once, but one that is "family". I mean we`ve been going back 30 years. lol

° c-Sun on 7 Scorpio and c-Mars on 8 Scorpio opposite her Neptune on 7 Taurus and conjunct my Saturn on 6 Scorpio

° c-Venus on 23 Scorpio and c-NN on 22 Scorpio conjunct her ASC on 23 Scorpio

° c-Saturn on 29 Cancer opposite my Pluto on 28 Cap

° c-Chiron on 25 Aries conjunct my Venus on 25 Aries and opposite her Jupiter on 26 Libra

[lumina]

And the Italian and me

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c-DESC on 6 Cancer conjunct my Juno on 6 Cancer

c-MC on 3 Scorpio conjunct my Saturn on 6 Scorpio (and my tgropical Uranus on 1 Scorpio. lol)

c-Sun-Moon-Lilith, all on 23 Cap (!), conjunct his Pluto on 22 Cap and my MC on 24 Cap (my own Pluto is at 28 Cap conjunct his tropical NN at 27 Cap)

c-Saturn on 23 Aries conjunct his Sun on 23 Aries and my Venus on 25 Aries (and Vesta on 21 Aries)

c-Venus on 10 Aqua, opposite his Mars on 8 Leo and my Chiron on 9 Leo

c-Mars on 5 Virgo, opposite Moon on 2, almost 3 Pisces

c-SUranus on 6 Sag opposite my Moon on 6 Gemini (and his tropical Mars)

c-Chiron on 6 Gem conjunct my Moon on 6 Gemini (and his tropical Mars, and okay, my tropical DESC)

c-SN on 4 Cancer conjunct my Juno on 6 cancer

(and yes, we have ASC conjunct NN in our composite; And Ceres is exactly conjunct ASC on 6 Cap, NN on 4 Cap, conjunct my Venus on 6 Cap and near his Juno on 9 Cap, his Moon is closish, at 00 Cap)

[Ava]

Thank you for all these examples! I'll have to think about it and see if I've got any comments or questions. It's good to know significant conjunctions/4th harmonic aspects are appearing.

Nov 10, 2020 12:30:34 GMT lumina said:

Ava
I`d think it would maybe give a more direction-oriented/ purposeful kind of connection/ or feeling. like certain aspects of the connection seem to pull or push us towards some development.

Well said. "Development." I noticed my father's draconic Mercury is conjunct my parents' composite NN. That matters because Mercury rules his natal (tropical) DSC-NN in Gemini.

My mother's draconic sun opposes their composite Pluto. Pluto rules her NN in Scorpio.

Her draconic Pluto is trine his draconic Mercury,  which is neat, but I don't know what it means. 

Nov 10, 2020 12:30:34 GMT lumina said:

The thing about the Yods is also very interesting, so 6 Virgo must have been a really big one for your mother and you. I wonder if it showed up in important events as transits or progressions.
#and of course compoiste Moon to Draco Sun, is pretty, wow!

Thanks. Honestly I don't see any major hits with 6 Virgo, but I don't have a lot of dated events to work with. My parents' composite moon could be 6 Virgo; it's somewhere around there.

Be back later...

Edit: My progressed draconic Jupiter is @ 7.00 Virgo now, it just arrived on that degree last month. So it's been exactly conjunct my mother's draco Jupiter and my draco MC these past few years. They were strange years. 

[Ava]

Mapping out composite node links to individual draconic charts....since draco is a node chart, this might be a good place to start. I put the draco ASC = comp node in blue. Because maybe that's common. Who knows.

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* "in our case" 
c-SN conjunct my Draco Vesta exact
c-NN conjunct his Draco ASC

* Your parents

c-Mars on 26 Virgo, C-Saturn on 28 Virgo and c-SN on 24 Virgo conjunct my Dad`s Draco Mars on 29 Virgo and Draco Juno on 24 Virgo, and my Mom`s Draco IC on 1 Libra (the c-Saturn might be close enough)

* P + his wife
c-Mars and c-NN on 10 Cancer conjunct his Mercury on 8 Cancer and square his Mars-Jupiter on 9-8 Aries, and also square her Saturn on 8 Libra

* You + your best friend
c-Venus on 23 Scorpio and c-NN on 22 Scorpio conjunct her ASC on 23 Scorpio

* You + the Italian
c-SN on 4 Cancer conjunct your Juno on 6 cancer (trine your Saturn)

Also

* You + I
c-SN @ 0 Gemini conjunct my draconic sun and your draconic moon, though both a little wide, c-SN on that mixed midpoint

* My husband and I
c-NN conjunct his draco ASC