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Post by FruityLlama on Mar 6, 2017 22:24:08 GMT
Hi guys, I wanted to start a thread about the ruler of the 7th house and how it represents your S.O. How are they represented? How are you represented in their chart, if you know? For example, in my S.O's, I am mars in the 12th house. They, for me, are Saturn in the 10th house. My Saturn is in Pisces, their Mars in Virgo! They natally have a 10th house sun, I have a 7th house neptune... i hope there is a pattern there that is obvious to others too ahaha but...yeah. I basically just wanted to start this kind of thread in the hope that others would find it fun and interesting too  |
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Post by Violets on Mar 7, 2017 1:55:34 GMT
Ahahahaha... Hm. Uranus rules my 7th house, and my husband and I are both Uranian types. I have Uranus conjunct IC, and he has his conjunct his MC. His Uranus is conjunct my Pluto (and our son's Saturn), trine my Mercury/Dsc, and square my Saturn. His NN is in Aquarius, conjunct my Dsc and Mercury. Mercury rules his 7th house. (and as I mentioned, my Mercury is conjunct his NN and also his Mars.) His Mercury is conjunct my Moon, and square both my Sun and NN/Neptune. So yes, I think there's something to all of that! |
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Post by Violets on Mar 7, 2017 12:03:58 GMT
Edit. His Mercury is opposite my Sun.
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Post by FruityLlama on Mar 7, 2017 20:40:08 GMT
I will have to check some of those patterns with myself! Thanks for responding Violets!  |
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Post by lumina on Apr 3, 2017 13:01:23 GMT
i find the DESC-ruler to be pretty important, though it depends on the Overall Chart, if your Chart, esp. personal planets, do really not agree with the DESC or DESC-ruler, then this might rather be a bit of an enemy or counter-type actually.
but generally speaking yes, the Partner often either has strong characteristics of the DESC, planets in 7th house and 7th house ruler, or will directly aspect those with personal planets.
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Post by lumina on Apr 3, 2017 13:23:03 GMT
Example: my parents
my mom has Capricorn - ASC- my Dad has Saturn conjunct ASC (Virgo) trine chartruler in Capricorn
my mom`s DESC-ruler, Saturn, is in Libra in 4th house: my Dad has Mars in Libra (exactly conjunct her DESC-ruler even); his chartruler is in Capricorn (Saturn!) in 4th house
my mom`s DESC ruler is opposite Jupiter and Uranus: my Dad has Sun, Venus, Jupiter in Aquarius (5, 14, 12 degrees, Jupiter is conjunct both his Sun and Venus) (he has a Moon-Uranus-sextile exact, plus the Sun-Jupiter-conjunction: my mom got it all.  )
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 13:47:09 GMT
The ruler of my 7th is in Capricorn My boyfriend is a Cap Sun/Cap Moon The ruler of my 7th is Neptune My boyfriend has his Neptune conjunct his ASC! I'd say that synchronicity worked out well (My 7th ruler is conjunct his Sun naturally) |
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Post by lumina on Apr 3, 2017 14:20:30 GMT
(My 7th ruler is conjunct his Sun naturally)
He is a natural Partner for you, and in respect to his core personality really. Who he is (Sun) is what complements you /7th house)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 14:25:02 GMT
(My 7th ruler is conjunct his Sun naturally)
He is a natural Partner for you, and in respect to his core personality really. Who he is (Sun) is what complements you /7th house)
Well said, that rings very true for me Ceri! His DSC is in Taurus and while I don't aspect his Venus much in synastry, my Mercury is almost exactly conjunct his DSC so that's a little comforting  |
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Post by lumina on Apr 3, 2017 14:38:42 GMT
from my Dad`s perspective -------------------------------
his DESC is Pisces: Well My Mom is the opposite of a Neptunian really, but I believe that my Dad could not REALLY do anything with a Pisces anyway, his DESC is there, but his Moon is in earthy Taurus, his Venus in cerebral Aquarius, the ruler of his 7th house is in Libra (Neptune) and Aquarius (Jupiter). Neptune is not angular in his Chart either.
my Mom on the other Hand has three personal planets in Virgo, Moon, Venus and Mars, her Venus and Mars are even conjunct his ASC. I believe in this instance he was more attracted to the polar opposite, ALSO because Virgo-Mercury-energy is so deeply ingrained in his personality as well. It`s more of a kindred Spirits Feeling than any Neptunian could have given him (he might have been attracted to that Quality before though of course).
his DESC-ruler is in 2nd house btw which seems to emphasize the fact his Moon is in Taurus albeit in 8th house, and my Moms Sun is in Scorpio (opposing his Moon)
the traditional DESC-ruler Jupiter, is in Aquarius: my mom has Uranus on the ASC it is in his 5th house: my mom`s Sun (as well as his own) are in 5th house
Well his new DESC-ruler is in Libra, and his traditional DESC-ruler is conjunct Venus: there should be a bit of Venusian Quality in my mom. While she is exhibiting some of the grace Librans can posess, it is a bit more difficult to see astrologically. She does not have personal planets in Libra (though when they met and got married her pr Venus was in Libra conjunct his Mars, and this was a pretty Long Progression, due to his Mars being Retro).
Her MC-ruler is in Libra and her Mars is conjunct Venus.
On ist own I would consider that a bit weakly,
however her Venus is EXACTLY conjunct his ASC, so it becomes angular and in relation to him it`s her Venus-nature that Comes out (especially TO him of course). So while she may not be very Venusian in personality, she embodies Venus in relation TO HIM.
There are also several aspects to Pluto in his natal His Venus opposes Pluto his DESC-ruler Neptune exactly sextiles Pluto of course his traditional DESC-ruler Jupiter opposes Pluto
echoing his Moon in 8th house (conjunct BML)
and my Mom is a Super Scorpio, really. Sun in Scorpio in 5th house and Mercury in that sign as well. (well a Scorpio/Virgo/Cancer mix with an angular Uranus, a pretty unique mix. lol well both my parents have quite some Uranus-Pluto mix up in their horoscopes)
his DESC-ruler squaring Mercury in Capricorn probably fits her Virgo-planets pretty well, including BOTH feminine principles being in that sign.
Since Mercury rules his ASC, it probably also indicates that he expects the experience of a certain Tension in relation to a Partner, and if everything would be just smooth and triney, he would probably be bored senseless or not even notice the other Person, thinking: "Nice. but what does it have to do with me? That`s not how I work."
Well they are still verbal Sparring like Teenagers. I mean it sometimes is entertaining and sometimes reminds me of my pupils. lol
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Post by lumina on Apr 3, 2017 14:40:37 GMT
athena what aspects do you have to his Venus? I am looking for relationships that work despite the man not having their Venus aspected (ptolemaic aspects). do These exist?
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Post by FruityLlama on Apr 3, 2017 14:57:09 GMT
I don't think me and my so have that much synchronicity then actually! Our DSC rulers oppose and are separating. Thanks for responding as well you guys! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 15:07:05 GMT
athena what aspects do you have to his Venus? I am looking for relationships that work despite the man not having their Venus aspected (ptolemaic aspects). do These exist? It's kinda sad how little I aspect his Venus! There's only A trine to my Pallas (2°) A square to my Psyche (0°) A trine to my ASC (3°) - this is an out-of-sign trine though And if we really wanted to get desperate, his Venus is about 8° away from my NN |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 20:21:32 GMT
I have Dsc in Aqua which is ruled by both Uranus and Saturn. If we take Saturn, that's good because his Saturn is conjunct my Venus, his 7th house ruler. Uranus, on the other hand ain't quite so fitting. His Uranus (which is conjunct my Amor and trine my Juno) is square my Sun. While my Venus squares his Sun. Is that a pattern worth noting? Uranus squaring Sun sounds diabolical.
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Post by lumina on Apr 7, 2017 18:17:11 GMT
athena what aspects do you have to his Venus? I am looking for relationships that work despite the man not having their Venus aspected (ptolemaic aspects). do These exist? It's kinda sad how little I aspect his Venus! There's only A trine to my Pallas (2°) A square to my Psyche (0°) A trine to my ASC (3°) - this is an out-of-sign trine though And if we really wanted to get desperate, his Venus is about 8° away from my NN Hmm, maybe the trine to ASC is good enough? BTW does his Venus have any antiscia/ contrascia connections (1,5 degrees) to your chart? those are said to be very strong too. though subtle. |
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Post by lumina on Apr 7, 2017 18:20:31 GMT
@astrokeen
uranus-Sun-square sounds exciting to me! Of course it depends on the overall chart but I have Aqua-Moon, Sag Sun, I do not fear Uranus-Sun-squares. lol (and having pr Sun in Aqua too)
I wonder about traditional planets as ruler too. I do think tentatively that they might still be in play.
my 3rd house is in Aquarius, and while, Uranus in Scorpio on 11th house makes sense, I think SAturn in Cancer in 8th house, especially now being opposed by Tr Pluto makes a lot of sense, too, in terms of communications. But well I guess in my case it does not matter Scorpio/Pluto figures in any case. lol
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Post by Violets on Apr 8, 2017 16:36:08 GMT
I'll just say that my Pluto is conjunct my husband's Uranus (with Uranus as my Dsc Ruler), which is not particularly enjoyable, especially considering the fact that as such, his Uranus also squares my Saturn, and opposes my Venus. In turn, as he has Uranus square Moon natally, my Pluto also squares his Moon. Our oldest son's Saturn is right in the middle of that, conjunct my Pluto and my husband's Uranus, lol. However... There is Venus trine Venus, Moon trine Moon, Moon conjunct Vertex, my Isis conjunct his Osiris, NN conjunct Dsc, SN conjunct Saturn, Mercury conjunct Moon, etc. We can argue alright, and every member of the household (save for baby, as his little fixed/mutable combo is just now starting to demonstrate itself more quietly but rather hilariously) wants to do things in a way that was THEIR idea. We all come around after a few days of grumbling at each other, lol. Plenty of love (lots of it), and plenty of digging in heels to balance it out. If I count Saturn as my Dsc Ruler, my husband's Saturn is conjunct my SN, part of a Mutable T-square that we both share, including his Mercury being conjunct my Moon. I don't recall all of the other Saturn aspects from his chart, he has Saturn square Mercury (his Dsc Ruler), but Saturn sextile Venus. That's a long list and sidetracking, lol. I won't be offended if everyone didn't follow all of that. |
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Post by anela on Apr 12, 2017 18:23:03 GMT
Venus rules my 7th, and I don't have a partner.
My dad married his ascendant sign: Mum was a Sagittarius. I don't know her exact birth time, but my sister thought she was a Taurus ascendant (dad's sun sign), and would have placed her Scorpio Venus in the 7th. They had Venus/Jupiter trine Venus, Mars trine Mars, etc. Nice aspects.
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Post by starry on Apr 26, 2017 17:20:45 GMT
I have Taurus as my DSC but I have never been in a relationship with one. I had a brief encounter with one but he was rushing too much into it that put me off.
All my deep encounters in romance and partnership were with scorpionic people..I'm a libra with venus/pluto in Scorpio. Talk about intense.
However, most of the people I have been with had heavy earth and I lack it. Perhaps that is some how playing it's role in relation to my 7th house sign...
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