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Post by Ava on Feb 19, 2018 15:28:25 GMT
Seems so far-fetched, but I was looking at my draco pr comp for my wedding day, and it was striking: So many conjunctions to our respective natals and natal draconic charts. - Venus @ 15° Aries conjunct my natal Jupiter & draco Venus @ 16 Aries -- wow - 18° Sag Mars on my 17° Sag draco ASC (rectified) - Pluto-Uranus on my DSC (rectified) & husband's pr DSC - 16° Cancer moon opposes my sun & husband's draconic Mercury-Pluto - 27° Scorpio Jupiter opposes my draco sun @ 25° Taurus - 18° Aqua Saturn on his draco moon and my draco Pluto, squaring our nodes and his draco ASC-DSC axis Those are the draconic transits...off topic but noteworthy... - Transiting draco Uranus on the MC (LOL) on our regular composite Pluto-Uranus - Transiting draco sun-Mercury on my natal Uranus, squaring his - Transiting draco Neptune square my natal Neptune - Transiting draco Venus-Saturn on my draco Saturn and his natal Saturn Anyway... This thread's for progressed composite draconic charts I need a nickname for that, but "pr dr comp" just doesn't have a nice ring to it.
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Post by lumina on Feb 19, 2018 16:34:22 GMT
Ava I love that thread and your draproco, or however it is called.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Feb 19, 2018 19:55:17 GMT
Don't worry, not too far-fetched.. I do progressed draconic Davison too. Yayy for Draco. Not Malfoy.
I couldn't cherry-pick any single aspect - these are all so remarkable! I dunno which way to look first.
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Post by lumina on Feb 19, 2018 20:45:21 GMT
Ava there are such strongs relations! I think I like most those that trigger an existing aspect between you, but then again, I just adore that Dr Venus on your Dr Venus and Jupiter. It just looks so blissfully in love and happy. So the potential is there at least. I think the Pluto-Uranus connection your DESC and your husband`s Dr DESC (is that true, you have that alignment, too? so I need to wait for atime Puto or Uranus is hitting ours? Oh well actually it does I think, will post the chart later, maybe, or maybe I misremember), anyway that looks like such a major shift in life, in terms of relationships of course. and a Moon-Sun-opposition ALWAYS gets my attention, and it triggers a deep communication as well. definitely a change in thought and lifestyle. and this one here "- 18° Aqua Saturn on his draco moon and my draco Pluto, squaring our nodes and his draco ASC-DSC axis " simply oozes absolute fatedness, even if it is not really a lighthearted one, but that is just so freaking profound and binding and transformative!
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Post by lumina on Feb 19, 2018 20:52:38 GMT
So this is our Draco progressed composite for january 2019
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Post by lumina on Feb 19, 2018 20:54:05 GMT
curiously enough Dr pr c-Pluto IS conjunct his ASC and my Draco ASC. lol
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Post by Ava on Feb 19, 2018 21:31:11 GMT
*head explodes* So much to think about and say. Currently I'm a bit frazzled by a transiting Aries moon-almost-conjunct-Uranus hiccup in my household. But anyway... Thanks for looking 12YearsABlob , and moreover, thanks for really seeing the value of draconic charts! I'm glad you've already done this. lumina , "I think I like most those that trigger an existing aspect between you, but then again, I just adore that Dr Venus on your Dr Venus and Jupiter. It just looks so blissfully in love and happy. So the potential is there at least." Mmmm, I was super optimistic, thought it would be great...Aries-naive, but how else could I be? "I think the Pluto-Uranus connection your DESC and your husband`s Dr DESC (is that true, you have that alignment, too?" His tropical progressed DSC was on my tropical DSC. "...so I need to wait for atime Puto or Uranus is hitting ours? Oh well actually it does I think, will post the chart later, maybe, or maybe I misremember)," Hmm, well you have that minor triangle forming of Cap Juno (moon there, soon), Pisces Pluto, Taurus Jupiter-Neptune (can hardly believe my eyes) with transiting draco Virgo Pluto forming a kite with it --- wow! When does that shape all tighten up, I wonder, with the moon? Sorry, I don't mean to always ask for future charts. Just displaying my curiosity. Currently, you've got a moon-Mars-Venus t-square...as a casual observer, I would vote, Yes, that is detectable. "...anyway that looks like such a major shift in life, in terms of relationships of course." I know, right? Though I can't quite fathom why I had to get so involved with that Uranus-Pluto conjunction. Seems that other people in my age group kinda just avoided the 60s and its craziness, in their composites. But Uranus and Pluto rule my DSC and NN respectively. "and a Moon-Sun-opposition ALWAYS gets my attention, and it triggers a deep communication as well. definitely a change in thought and lifestyle." Same here! "- 18° Aqua Saturn on his draco moon and my draco Pluto, squaring our nodes and his draco ASC-DSC axis " simply oozes absolute fatedness, even if it is not really a lighthearted one, but that is just so freaking profound and binding and transformative!" YAY! Thank you for seeing it. I'll be back, haunting this thread. One odd thing -- as I was looking through charts, I noticed my progressed draco composite sun with H is now @ 20° Taurus. LOL, right on my SN. Tightly conjunct Venus (21° Taurus) and exactly trine Mars (20° Cap, on tr Pluto), grand-trining his sun (20° Virgo). Maybe this is the year he sends me a postcard from paradise.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Feb 20, 2018 0:50:22 GMT
Hehe - thanks! I only play around with them. A glance here, a glance there. Seldom through them in detail like you have here. I'm sort of chicken. Lots of great info here, will be back soon.. P.S. I hear ya about the transiting moon/Uranus in ARIES. Today, meesa was cheerfully threatening to hit people over the head with a rolling pin. For no good reason. Just felt the need to pummel something. P.P.S. "my progressed draco composite sun with H is now @ 20° Taurus. LOL, right on my SN. Tightly conjunct Venus (21° Taurus) and exactly trine Mars (20° Cap, on tr Pluto), grand-trining his sun (20° Virgo). Maybe this is the year he sends me a postcard from paradise. "Omg -- the exactness is mind-boggling! Yeah, postcard. Or a phone call. Or a visit. Then *you* can smack him upside the head, when he shows up at your doorstep.
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Post by lumina on Feb 20, 2018 9:34:35 GMT
Ava where do you see the T-square of Moon-Venus-Mars in our composite? and as for the minor triangle, did you count transiting Juno? Dr pr c-Moon will be on 26-27 Capricorn in july 2019, and so making the minor triangle closer. It will of course also be opposing his natal tropical Juno on 27 Cancer at that time. tropical progressed composite ASC will be on 27°19 Pisces at that time.
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Post by Ava on Feb 20, 2018 12:38:01 GMT
luminaOops! Moon-Mars-sun......well, all those t-squares. Not tight, just visible. Thank you, that's what I was wondering: "Dr pr c-Moon will be on 26-27 Capricorn in july 2019." Hope ASC trine moon brings extra good times.
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Post by Ava on Feb 20, 2018 12:41:51 GMT
I'm sort of chicken.
Even privately? P.S. I hear ya about the transiting moon/Uranus in ARIES. Today, meesa was cheerfully threatening to hit people over the head with a rolling pin. For no good reason. Just felt the need to pummel something.
Felt good didn't it? Omg -- the exactness is mind-boggling! Yeah, postcard. Or a phone call. Or a visit. Then *you* can smack him upside the head, when he shows up at your doorstep. Hahahahah, you're so cute. Realistically that is all over, I was kidding
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Post by lumina on Feb 20, 2018 17:07:14 GMT
Ava Ah yes, that one. lol Pr Moon will first oppose Sun and after that square Mars. Interestingly draco progressed composite mars is opposing our natal tropical composite Mars. BTW the Draco progressed composite Full-moon is exactly square our composite nodal axis on 20 Libra-Aries. Incidentally around that time the fullmoon happens transiting Pluto (tropical) will be on 20-21 Capricorn. and our tropical composite Moon is on 22 Capricorn.
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Post by lumina on Feb 20, 2018 17:10:04 GMT
One odd thing -- as I was looking through charts, I noticed my progressed draco composite sun with H is now @ 20° Taurus. LOL, right on my SN. Tightly conjunct Venus (21° Taurus) and exactly trine Mars (20° Cap, on tr Pluto), grand-trining his sun (20° Virgo). Maybe this is the year he sends me a postcard from paradise. Amazing. And I second the idea to smack him over the head with something. Well I was being curious about the progressed composite (Draco) for the next concert (23rd march), and well it has Draco progressed c-Sun on 19 Cancer, right on his Draco Neptune on 19 Cancer. I am not even sure why, but I find that sort of sweet. lol Of course it had been on 19 Cancer last week already, on 19°02 Cancer, so just having entered that degree. Draco progressed c-Moon had been on 6°50 Capricorn and on the workshop it was on 5°45 Capricorn, and thus has been conjunct my natal Venus on 6°07 Capricorn. Well his Draco Neptune is on 19°04 Cancer, so on last concert the Draco pr c-Sun had been applying to this by only 2 minutes of orb. Next month the Draco progressed c-Sun will be on 19°08 Cancer, so just 4 minutes after his Draco Neptune, but come on, those are ridiculously close orbs! lol I don`t know about you, but I often feel that whenever two planets are on the same degree, it just feels a tad magical or special. Hence I think the Moon on my Venus was stronger last week because they were sharing the same degree.
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Post by lumina on Feb 20, 2018 21:18:44 GMT
I looked up the Draco progressed composite for the next concert-time, and compared to our tropical/Draco charts like you did, AvaThis is what I`ve noticed. (Well before starting with that I of course cannot help but notice that Draco progressed and natal composite Saturn is EXACTLY conjunct our composite ASC, and there will be an eclipse on our Draco composite Vertex, 3 degrees off this, and also Draco progressed composite Venus is slowly applying to conjunct natal composite Saturn) But anyway with next month I noticed: ° Draco pr c-DESC on 6°56 Pisces conjunct regular pr c Venus on 6 Pisces ° Draco pr c-Vertex on 8 Pisces conjunct his natal Eros on 8 Pisces and my name in his chart and my Ceres on 9 Pisces ° Draco pr c-Pluto on 26 Pisces conjunct his natal ASC on 25 PIsces and my Draco Mars on 25 Pisces and my Draco ASC on 26 PIsces, opposing his natal Saturn on 26 Virgo ° Draco pr c-Mars on 21 Aries conjunct my Dr Vesta on 21 Aries and natal Chiron on 20 Aries, and opposite his natal Pluto on 21 Libra ° Draco pr c-Uranus on 24°56 Aries conjunct my Dr Venus on 25 Aries and his Dr Saturn on 25 Aries and his Dr DESC on 26 Aries (Uranus will progress to 25 Aries within the next months) ° draco pr c-Juno on 8 Taurus conjunct his natal Chiron on 9 Taurus and my natal PoM, Actor and Eros/Psyche-mp on 7 Taurus ° Draco pr c-MC on 7 Gemini conjunct my Draco Moon and natal DESC on 7 Gemini ° Draco pr c-IC on 7 Sag conjunct my natal ASC and his pr DESC on 7 Sag, and his Dr Chiron on 8 Sag ° Draco pr c-Sun on 19 Cancer conjunct his Dr Neptune on 19 Cancer and my natal Saturn on 17 Cancer and natal Eros-Vertex on 21 Cancer ° Draco pr c-Mercury on 28 Cancer conjunct his natal Juno on 27 Cancer as well as his Draco Sun-Moon-MC from 25-27 Cancer and opposes my Dr Pluto on 28 Cap
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Post by lumina on Feb 21, 2018 15:25:34 GMT
Musings on my progressed composite, the lunar cycle, transits and progressions (tropical version this time) P and me first met (talked, oh sooo many years ago, but it seems to still be a valid first meeting, despite all the twists and turns in between. lol) with Tr Uranus sextile composite Moon (natal version) exact. oh and of course Tr Uranus was also conjunct composite Ceres exact and sextile composite Juno exact (there is a minor triangle of Moon-Juno-Ceres in the basic composite): I haven`t checked this so far, but Robert Blashke wrote in his book on relationships, that he often progresses a composite to the first meeting, and that that very often gives clear indications as what the relationship "means", what its purpose is, why these people met. Maybe I will start a thread on this one. Well in december for the christmas concert, we`ve had this composite Moon 22°52 Capricorn progressed c-Moon 23°13 Cancer (composite Mars 23°08 Libra) Transiting Uranus 24°42 Aries When Tr Uranus was first in partile square to composite Moon (and opposing composite Mars), he had been added a few extras to a package to me including a personal greeting, and yes that came as a big surprise. lol AT that time however pr Moon was not yet in orb. Well the last time Tr Uranus was exactly squaring pr composite Moon was 7 days after the last workshop, and the next time it will be within 24 hours after the next concert in March. However while after the last workshop this happened with progressed composite Moon opposing his Venus and Tr Uranus square his Venus, next month it will see pr composite Moon conjunct and Tr uranus square his Juno. Seems pr composite Moon and Tr Uranus will move a bit in step, at least for a bit, they will go out of the partile orb in the later part of may, with pr c Moon on the last degree of Cancer. Due to Uranus retro motion they will get back "in touch" though in july (while pr c Moon will be on the composite DESC in Leo exact), and the square of Tr Uranus and prco Moon will become exact mid-august (will go out of partile orb at the beginning of september). No clue if there will be another hit, but if so then with a long timespan in between. As for transits to progressed composites, I know that some would say they are not valid, however one of the toughest times in my life occurred when Tr Saturn was squaring my progressed Sun. And Tr Saturn opposing progressed composite Moon in Taurus and squaring progressed composite Mercury in Aquarius was no joy either. Total failing in terms of being able to communicate with each other. Curiously enough he back then met his soon to be wife whose name in his chart was falling onto the same degree as Tr Saturn was back then, and they got married with Tr Sun being there, well one degree conjunct it at least. Well I certainly know how I would read that today. lol Interestingly Tr Saturn was also conjunct my Draconic Vertex-Eros and Sun/Moon-mp. As much all of this sucked, I think it made me wake up and grow up. BTW Ava maybe this interests you, too. He was first singing that song, yes THAT song, when our pr composite Moon was on 2 Taurus, just having conjuncted composite Chiron about 3 months before and at that time was exactly square pr composite Sun on 2 Aquarius. So a Sun-Moon-progression, a waxing Moon, the very waxing Moon that was the "crisis point" of its way to the fullmoon that we will experience next january. Funny enough the New Moon starting this particular cycle, happened before we even met, well one year before we first saw each other on that open air, though I knew his name when I had seen it on the cast list - in fact his name almost led me to NOT attend the open air. Just some kind of gut instinct. lol Also curiously that New Moon took place at a time that was extremely important for me, in terms of opening up to spiritual and emotional developments, and I suddenly became weirdly enarmoured with a certain musical, though not with the singers on my cd, which was weird. Usually I get attached to certain voices, not necessarily the songs. I later learned that while not on the cd, he has been playing the lead in this production, in fact my parents probably have seen him that year. lol He didn`t leave an impression though, my mom was swearing for years she never had been there as a matter of fact until I PROVED to her she was! Anyway so that progressed New Moon in our composite happened to be conjunct our composite MOon anyway (2 degrees) and being just one degree off his natal Venus. (when we actually met and talked, he was having pr Sun conjunct his natal Venus exact, and therefore close to that composite New Moon; I was having a waxing quarter Moon around that time, while my Sun was entering 00 Aquarius and Moon 00 Taurus, which is interesting as the waxing quarter Moon some years later when he published that song, happened on the same degrees. He has been having his own waxing quarter MOon a while back with his pr Sun on 3 Aqua and pr Moon on 3 taurus, which happened 2 years ago). So I guess somehow events are connected or reflecting back during those "peaks" in the lunar cycle. I don`t know. so the fullmoon might give some kind of commentary of any of these events having happened prior. I don`t know of course, but we`ll see.
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Post by Ava on Feb 25, 2018 3:36:31 GMT
Sorry I'm so laggy! lumina Thanks for investigating the progressed composite, draco. I really do think there is something to this chart. Of all the interlocking conjunctions you mentioned, I guess I'm most taken with... "° Draco pr c-Sun on 19 Cancer conjunct his Dr Neptune on 19 Cancer" Because especially lately, I've felt you two present a Neptunian "outlet" for him, an escape. Highly emotional, especially with Pluto opposing that (and of course, thinking of JCS photo, and how fitting that is for a Neptune-Pluto opposition.) Maybe there's a feeling of dreams being challenged in that Plutonian way? Like a battle to the death, to get to the bottom of what it all means? "Draco progressed c-Moon had been on 6°50 Capricorn and on the workshop it was on 5°45 Capricorn, and thus has been conjunct my natal Venus on 6°07 Capricorn." Whoa....maybe explains some of the Cappy restraint that was evident there? No hugs. lol But I think there was probably a strong undercurrent of feeling via comparison, not to be putting anyone down, but you know what I mean. The inevitable. "I don`t know about you, but I often feel that whenever two planets are on the same degree, it just feels a tad magical or special. Hence I think the Moon on my Venus was stronger last week because they were sharing the same degree." Oh, definitely. Well I think you and I are also a little bit smitten with numerical precision for its own sake. Things just seem to vibe better in my system when I know the degrees are the same. Like I am in love with this musician's music and when I saw his NN @ 18° Pisces, I gasped! Why that's MY DEGREE! (Unless everyone lied about when I was born. I'll be finding out soon, though...finally mailing away for a real birth time.) Incidentally my husband and I will have a pr draco comp new moon @ 6 Taurus, thrilling because it opposes my natal Uranus @ 6 Scorpio. And I like the number six. "P and me first met (talked, oh sooo many years ago, but it seems to still be a valid first meeting, despite all the twists and turns in between. lol) with Tr Uranus sextile composite Moon (natal version) exact. oh and of course Tr Uranus was also conjunct composite Ceres exact and sextile composite Juno exact (there is a minor triangle of Moon-Juno-Ceres in the basic composite)" Isn't that beautiful? "I haven`t checked this so far, but Robert Blashke wrote in his book on relationships, that he often progresses a composite to the first meeting, and that that very often gives clear indications as what the relationship "means", what its purpose is, why these people met. Maybe I will start a thread on this one." Yes please! Checking mine with my husband....loaded 4H, moon on the DSC...pr comp NN right on his NN. "As for transits to progressed composites, I know that some would say they are not valid, however one of the toughest times in my life occurred when Tr Saturn was squaring my progressed Sun." #$%&*? Not valid? But I really want them to be valid. Tr Saturn square pr sun, sorry it was so horrible "He was first singing that song, yes THAT song, when our pr composite Moon was on 2 Taurus, just having conjuncted composite Chiron about 3 months before and at that time was exactly square pr composite Sun on 2 Aquarius. So a Sun-Moon-progression, a waxing Moon, the very waxing Moon that was the "crisis point" of its way to the fullmoon that we will experience next january." AMAZING! "Also curiously that New Moon took place at a time that was extremely important for me, in terms of opening up to spiritual and emotional developments, and I suddenly became weirdly enarmoured with a certain musical, though not with the singers on my cd, which was weird. Usually I get attached to certain voices, not necessarily the songs. I later learned that while not on the cd, he has been playing the lead in this production, in fact my parents probably have seen him that year. lol He didn`t leave an impression though, my mom was swearing for years she never had been there as a matter of fact until I PROVED to her she was!" Not surprised at these psychic beginnings!! What were the degrees of the pr comp new moon, tropical and draco? Anything happening simultaneous with that? "So I guess somehow events are connected or reflecting back during those "peaks" in the lunar cycle. I don`t know. so the fullmoon might give some kind of commentary of any of these events having happened prior. I don`t know of course, but we`ll see." I'm excited.
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Post by lumina on Feb 25, 2018 12:37:41 GMT
AvaSorry to be short, But i am in my Phone. Amazing about the new moon with your husband and also Triggeringer your desc ruler. Our Dr Progressed new moon was on 5 cancer. However IT took place a year before WE even layed eyes in each other.
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Post by lumina on Feb 25, 2018 12:53:43 GMT
Also at that time Dr or c Venus was in 0-1 Leo in tropical desc an applying to oppose Draco Saturn in tropical composit asc.
Dr pr asc was falling Into tropical Saturn.
His own Draco Progressed had
Moon 27 Gemini
In His tropical ic and opposing Out sun
Venus 25 Virgo
In His tropical desc and Saturn
He did get Into a Long relationship at that time, But Not with me.
Interestingly i was having Dr pr Venus in my tropical desc AS well and in dr moon and Opposition tropical Mars
Well my pr sun was Just one degree separating from His n Venus in tropical. My pr Mars in His Natal sun and my pr moon nearing His asc that Summer. Too Bad WE die Not meet then lol
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Post by lumina on Oct 7, 2020 15:49:09 GMT
How weird i was Just stumbling across this. If i only Had known Back then what an experience that Concert i was mentioning would BE, setting some developments in Motion.
How curious that i pointed Out Back then that Dr or composite sun was in 19 cancer Back then, and Last sunday Dr Tr Sun was at 19 cancer.
Actually i Just saw today that this morning Dr Tr Sun was precisely conjunct Dr pr composite Sun. 21 cancer, right in my Natal tropical Vertex,Eros and far Sun/Moon midpoints.
And tomorrow Tr Sun will opposes Out composite tropical moon
Over the next year Dr pr composite Sun will apply tovan opposition with tropical Composite Moon.
Baffling.
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Post by Ava on Oct 7, 2020 22:18:13 GMT
P.P.S. "my progressed draco composite sun with H is now @ 20° Taurus. LOL, right on my SN. Tightly conjunct Venus (21° Taurus) and exactly trine Mars (20° Cap, on tr Pluto), grand-trining his sun (20° Virgo). Maybe this is the year he sends me a postcard from paradise. "Omg -- the exactness is mind-boggling! Yeah, postcard. Or a phone call. Or a visit. ^ You called it.
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