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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 5:45:10 GMT
Ava I actually don’t relate to moon square Pluto in Helio. I’m fairly happy as a 12th house Aries moon. My moon sesqui quadrate Pluto but square is a bit much lol. I personally know moon square Pluto natals so I can’t help but not see my behaviors to be similar to theirs and uhm I think my other Pluto aspects to sun and such are less moody too. I actually am having a hard time seeing Helio as part of myself.
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Post by lumina on Dec 24, 2017 12:03:01 GMT
I find helio intriguing (and then again forgettable after I looked into it for a bit, same reaction I have to vedic), but personally I don`t think it has that major impact or consdquence to our earthly existence, because we do NOT stand outside our own and our circumstances, so an objective view from an outside perspective is not possible for any human.
Apart from that I suspect that the aspects like square and so on might not be directly transferable from what we experience them to be like from our geocentric view.
What we see, what is going on and affecting us from around us, is shaping how we experience life, and that is from the point of earth, not from the Sun. Just my take on it. Though I do find it occasionally intriguing. but thats really all. a foreign image that does not seem to have much to do with my daily life.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 17:42:22 GMT
I guess what I try to say is we have basic natal interpretations but we don’t have Helio one so when I see an aspect in Helio I’m only seeing the natal interpretations. And also because I see natal as a reflection of how an individual react to surrounding environment so it’s hard to see an isolated individual all together. Our relationship with ourselves is partially a result of our relationship with others
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Post by Ava on Dec 26, 2017 20:02:59 GMT
Magi astrologers make a big deal out of Jupiter-Chiron. I wonder why that is? I have the Jupiter/Chiron conjunction in my natal, and it also makes itself present in my helio with a much tighter orb of 0°21. My interpretation of that was that I usually find mentors who have a very healing presence.. Hi athena, Thanks for your feedback! Just to revisit this Jupiter-Chiron stuff....you may have already seen this article: rubyslipper.ca/ruby-slipper-astrology/2014/02/the-mixed-blessing-jupiterchiron-in-the-natal-chartI never researched Jupiter-Chiron before, I don't think. These are 7° apart in my regular chart, so it doesn't quite apply to me. They are tightly conjunct in my helio chart, though. Anyway...for what it's worth: "SOME WOMEN ARE BORN TO BE CINDERELLAS Have you ever wondered why some women seem to attract only the super rich and super powerful, while other women seem to always be dating a man who cannot afford to pay for a good dinner? Believe it or not, with Magi Astrology, you can tell what type of man a woman is most likely to attract and marry. We can do this by examining the alignment of the planets when someone was born. After concluding a very extensive research project into the astrology of love, we noticed that there were significant similarities in the birth charts of women who were "Cinderellas." Most of them were born when Chiron made a MAGIcal angle to Venus, Jupiter or Neptune. These are the same pairs of planets that create Cinderella Transits! The Magi Society calls such alignments of planets CINDERELLA ASPECTS. (The word "aspect" in astrology refers to a meaningful alignment of two planets.) A Cinderella Aspect is an alignment of planets that occurred when someone was born and would predict that the person could become a Cinderella through marriage to royalty. Or she could become a Cinderella by marrying a very wealthy, or powerful, or famous marriage partner. Diana was born with a CINDERELLA ASPECT. When a woman is born with a Cinderella Aspect, it is a celestial sign that she can marry someone significantly above her own social or financial status. In the above chart, we highlighted Diana's Cinderella Aspect with a green line. She has one because she was born when Chiron and Neptune made a MAGIcal alignment of 120 degrees. Such alignments do not have to be exact. We allow an orb of plus or minus 3 degrees." web.archive.org/web/20061220162559/http://www.magiastrology.com:80/diana.html"Magical Angle: Two planets which form a Trine, Conjunction or Parallel. A Quincunx, Contra-Parallel or Contra-Latitude may also be a Magical Angle unless one planet is Saturn." magihelena.com/magi_glossary/#M--- I resent Magi astrology for having such a disorganized online presence, and again I have to laugh at their terminology (Cinderella...are you effing kidding me?) but my husband did turn out wealthier than I thought.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 20:56:25 GMT
Wow! Thanks for that article Ava . Truly fascinating and also incidentally amusing for all the reasons you listed. I'm more of a Princess Jasmine kinda gal myself. I've never heard of this aspect before but I would say that it rings true to my personal life (I have a semi-wide cardinal t-square between Neptune, Venus and Jupiter in my natal). The t-square doesn't match the Magi's "magical angle" criteria but I guess the Chiron/Jupiter conjunction fits the bill. Hilariously enough I always assumed by career would be sh*t because of this aspect.
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