August 21 solar eclipse, alternate charts

[Ava]

astrologyking.com/solar-eclipse-august-2017/

I put this in Advanced Astrology because I have two specific concerns about it (so far):

1. The natal-to-draco comparison chart of this event, as it relates to world events
2. My own event composite chart with the eclipse

Coming soon....

[Ava]

Let me just get the egocentric stuff out of the way. This is my event composite with the eclipse:




Uhhh, yeah I'm really looking forward to that.

[Ava]

We seem to be on the verge of possible nuclear warfare (?), that's what the news is saying.

That's never been the case in my lifetime that I'm aware of. I don't know how to emotionally react, because it seems so impossible. 

Then I look at this natal-to-draconic comparison chart for the eclipse:



- Draconic Pluto is right on the NN with the tropical sun-moon-Mars. 😲 On Trump's natal Mars. 
- Draconic NN-sun-moon-Mars is conjunct Trumps draconic sun-Uranus-NN on the Aries Point. Mars again!
- Draconic Uranus on the tropical ASC; tropical Uranus on the draconic MC. Too much angular Uranus. 
- Draconic Neptune conjunct tropical Jupiter, conjunct Trump's Jupiter.
- Draconic Saturn conjunct tropical Venus, conjunct Trump's Venus-Saturn.

www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Donald_Trump

Maybe there's even more to it, and I don't mean to get political or hysterical, I just can't help but marvel at the weirdness of all this, and the apparent danger. 

[Ava]

Oh and this is always heartening, to see things like this:

www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Kim_Jong-un

His sun and moon conjunct mine. Great.

He's got Mars conjunct Pluto, on his draconic sun, with transiting Pluto conjunct his tropical sun. Same NN as Trump. 

Well and it's weird how his draconic placements mirror Trump's tropical:



- Mars, Pluto in Leo
- Jupiter, Neptune in Libra
- Sag moon w/ noon chart

I'll make a composite chart between him and Trump...

[Ava]

As promised  

Cuz I know everyone loves chart overload.




One more on this theme, the progressed composite with transits for the eclipse:



No known birth time for Kim Jong-un.

[lumina]

Aug 11, 2017 12:29:11 GMT Ava said:

Cuz I know everyone loves chart overload.

lol


Anyway, I agree with you the Plutonic factor does not look encouraging, especially since one of the areas Pluto rules or signifies is nuclear energy.  
Though I think for something to happen it needs to interact with Uranus in a certain way and be placed on an angle, in an event chart. Possibly also including Mars/Saturn and/or the nodal axis. 

Anyway that is theoretically speaking. 

I wonder though if maybe the fact Pluto is happening int he draconic chart might be a good thing? aligned with the North Node hopefully showing a constructive way of transformation instead of the war-scenario? Yes I am a hopeless optimist I guess. 

[anela]

I love typos. A friend was talking about this on facebook, and someone commented about trump going rouge. It's nicer picturing him in Sephora, than starting a nuclear war.

[Ava]

Did one of my posts get deleted, or did I just not post it?

I guess I must've clicked off the screen before posting.

[anela]

On the national front: White Nationalists get violent with counter-protesters. One person deliberately drove a car into peaceful counter-protesters. Disturbing, and I'm keeping a lot of swear words to myself here. 

Personal: one of my dogs, Ell, has had trouble with his joints in areas, since we adopted him - sensitivity around his lower back and hips/tail area. He's had trouble walking this year, it got worse over the past few months, and we finally got an x-ray today. He has a mass just up and to the right of his tail, they don't know if it's benign. I'm so tired, but I'm looking up things like flax oil and cottage cheese, and a few supplements that we can't afford right now. I'll be making more turmeric paste when I've had some real sleep, which I'm hoping for tonight. I need to include things like shiitake mushrooms in his dinner, so I'll be getting those and other things tonight, or when I've had some sleep and can really concentrate. 

[Ava]

Fuck cancer.

(I, Gemini Mars, will use swear words FOR you and your Pisces Mars, if you ever need a ghost writer or anything. )

I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. Treatments like the ones you mention ought to be inexpensive and readily available through the medical establishment. Along with other hard-to-access cures like Black Salve and Cannabis oil. I did see a video where a woman who cured herself of cancer makes the flax/cottage cheese Budwig Protocol and then feeds it off her fingers to her dog.



Black Salve is the most impressive and frightening natural cure I've ever seen. 

www.dogcancerblog.com/blog/using-black-salve-in-dog-cancer/

Re: my missing post above, I have a weird fatigue that sets over me whenever I think of re-typing a lost post. For normalcy's sake and to keep up the flow, I will do that now.  

[Ava]

That post above for anela.

This for lumina,

I'm an optimist, too, in this case --> what other choice do we have, really? Can't even begin to wrap my head around nuclear war, I thought the world managed to evolve past that, and safeguard us against psycho idiots taking power. I mean, you can ban all the weapons you want, it's the PEOPLE who are dangerous. Trump should have been stopped long ago, but he's been masterful at getting through all the loopholes in our system that make special allowances for people who are rich and have no moral compass. It's like the system was designed by those people, for their cronies. It's all designed to bring people to the brink of catastrophe, just like this, if you want my most bitter opinion.

"Though I think for something to happen it needs to interact with Uranus in a certain way and be placed on an angle, in an event chart. Possibly also including Mars/Saturn and/or the nodal axis."

Yes...

Well those two are loose cannons individually, and the composite's got Uranus squaring the nodes.

Saturn-Pluto-Mars in late Virgo in their composite, let's hope tr Mercury doesn't ignite that.

I'm really sick of this crap.

[lumina]

Aug 12, 2017 22:17:48 GMT Ava said:

I'm really sick of this crap.

Me, too.

[LeeLoo]

Yeah, the Eclipse falls onto his presumed ASC + Mars, it's unlikely he will go unnoticed, to say the least (I mean Trump).

The Eclipse itself is a Fire Grand Trine, connected to Mars, Eris, Pholus on the 3 points: Pholus in Sag, Eris near Uranus in Aries. And a quincunx from Pisces Chiron (which is interesting, considering the Sabian Symbol is with the mermaid). So far, it is bad, looking at the events.

This is from LL, where our former "webmaster" friend is having a Nazi meltdown, luckily (for him) we are no longer there, as far as I am concerned.

and the beloved city of Barcelona has been under siege. My heart goes to all the victims everywhere it's a disaster of violence so far in both places, I'm heartbroken. I don't want to post any video from there so here is Freddie with Montserrat

What do you guys think of the Fire Grand Trine? It should be or should have been uplifting

[LeeLoo]

Can't find a chart for Barcelona, but here is the chart of modern Spain, where we can see the unfortunate events connected to the Eclipse energy (a Solar/nodal cross)

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[anela]

Aug 18, 2017 10:36:02 GMT LeeLoo said:

What do you guys think of the Fire Grand Trine? It should be or should have been uplifting

I heard there was a Venus/Pluto opposition, last week? Which could have built things up. 

I have spent too much time at LL, arguing, when I've been up all night (too often - I hate being up all night). I can't believe he can't just say, "They were wrong" or "he was wrong". 

[anela]

Aug 12, 2017 22:03:10 GMT Ava said:

Fuck cancer.

(I, Gemini Mars, will use swear words FOR you and your Pisces Mars, if you ever need a ghost writer or anything. )

I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. Treatments like the ones you mention ought to be inexpensive and readily available through the medical establishment. Along with other hard-to-access cures like Black Salve and Cannabis oil. I did see a video where a woman who cured herself of cancer makes the flax/cottage cheese Budwig Protocol and then feeds it off her fingers to her dog.



Black Salve is the most impressive and frightening natural cure I've ever seen. 

www.dogcancerblog.com/blog/using-black-salve-in-dog-cancer/

Re: my missing post above, I have a weird fatigue that sets over me whenever I think of re-typing a lost post. For normalcy's sake and to keep up the flow, I will do that now.  

Thank you. I keep meaning to make the flax oil and cottage cheese - I bought both last Saturday. I don't know what's wrong with me. I read about that twenty years ago, when I was first on the internet. Shirley's Wellness Cafe site. I made him more turmeric paste, and ordered C-Caps, that I hope will help. I'm just out of it, and keep forgetting to do the rest. I hate spending so much time alone. 

I also looked up a someone Habib - can't remember his first name. the dogs already get homemade food, although not enough vegetables. This guy loves turmeric, and I'm looking through archives on his blog. 

[lumina]

I was just over at LL, having just a short peek, and now I feel like I can never shower enough to get this.... off me. It`s so disgusting and frightening actually that people like this are working in the area of law.

As for Barcelona I am very sad about this and feel for all affected.
But I am not afraid.
I was just listening to a radio show and listeners were calling and voicing their concerns and some were saying that they are getting extra suspicious now when they see trucks/ cars on the streets, and then I realized that I wasn`t. I´ve never liked crowds anyway, even before all of that. But if the ultimate goal beside taking innocent lives is to create fear in everyone else, thses terrorists failed to reach their goal with me. I will not stay home, I will not avoid anything having to do with entertainment or my leisure time. I will not develop hate, fear and prejudices towards people, just beccause they belong to a certain ethnicity. I will continue to NOT give them too much thoughts at all, and give my compassion and emotional energy to those who deserve this. Those that are being affected by all of this.

[LeeLoo]

I feel what you say, Ceri <3

In the midst of the nastiness and the horror of Finland joining Spain, surprisingly, something good happens: Bannon is out.

(TOB unknown, but he is a Leo Moon)

[lumina]

I read that as well. Wow, the eclipse falls onto his Moon-Pluto?


Personally I think this eclipse seems to be a huge thing globally and possibly personally (at least for some people), and it will affect us on many areas, and I could imagine that the results will be very difficult AND very good/encouraging.

Like for example this tragedy striking or rather the crime being committed, but instead of infusing everyone with fear and hatred, the result is a wave of compassion and "standing together in misery", uniting people (at least the sane ones) instead of dividing them.

[enneline]

Bannon is leaving the White House, a strong event, no wonder since it falls on his moon/pluto

thank you all for your great posts, wish more people would be like you girls <3