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Post by Ava on Jul 22, 2017 14:11:15 GMT
On the deepest level, what does your moon want? What satisfies it? Open discussion, if anyone's up for it. lumina, I hope you'll be brave enough to go first if no one else does. Thanks in advance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 14:32:15 GMT
I am not lumina but will give it a try. Pisces Moon in 5th I do have polar opposites, at moments I have great need to be alone, to be in my thoughts, not as much analyze thoughts but yes it is more about fantasizing, day dreaming and then there is a big need to be social, to be around people, I dont need to talk a lot but I do like to be around people and then analyze them I have a need to have music or something around me, I dont like silence. That being said, if with right person the right type of silence is what I can even like So there is many situations where the fish duality is shown. Sweets satisfy me too on topic of food, yes I like eating but cooking for people gives me satisfaction. With emotions, I dont give my time or energy to no one person unless I feel they are worth it, so I am reserved unless I feel you to be a true person or will provide me true emotions.
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Post by Violets on Jul 22, 2017 14:37:25 GMT
Virgo Moon in 2nd COMMUNICATION. Articulate, thorough and meaningful communication. And privacy, when it's needed. And quiet. Pretend you're in a library while we have our conversations. My Moon is oddly positioned, so it's honestly difficult to tell whether it's my Moon, Mercury on my Dsc, or Uranus on my IC that's talking.
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Post by lumina on Jul 22, 2017 14:51:50 GMT
Gosh, that is a challenging one!
Hmm, Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house, quinkunx Saturn in 8th house (mutual house reception) parallel Uranus and Juno, contraparallel Pluto
Just focusing on the Aqua-Moon in 2nd house - what is my moon craving? Hmm, freedom AND security? A feeling of belonging AND standing out?
Well 2nd house is of course very different from Aqua-energy, so I have got to balance some polarities in my Moon.
I am not sure what my moon is CRAVING, except stimulation of some kind. lol
Let me think when do I feel fully emotionally satisfied and present?
Curiously enough I do so while having 1:1 interactions in group-settings. (A few years ago though I would have said that I hate group settings, but it really comes down to what group, you have to find the matching tribe, so to speak).
Mental stimulation of course, but curiously enough also physical one - a combination of both seems to equal emotional feeling for me.
But honestly speaking? I have no freaking clue. lol
EDIT I do remember one particular Moon-moment for me I think, and it came with a surprise.
It`s been some years ago and I was on a small venue/clubconcert, and admitted I was probably drugged by the lack of oxygene and the constant onslaught of music to my ears and heart and soul, and while the years before I was highly claustrophobic in crowd situations, I suddenly realized how much comfort I felt. I even remember that it had started snowing outside, and maybe it was just that contrast and this soundly attacks onto my braincells, but I was sort of like waking up, looking around me, looking over at stage, and at least in my feeling/ memory like my eyes were suddenly getting really wide with realization and that was:
"I am happy. Now, here in this moment. I am where I am meant to be. This is where I belong. This is the path I am meant to walk, no matter what it will bring."
I do remember that curiously enough the singer on stage was just that moment looking over to me, I even remember the song (and of course it was one of the mushiest songs that could be played, a downer for every party, as he nowaday is joking.)
That was actually an almost creepy moment, because I´ve always been at high mental unrest, never been in a moment, never really present, as my mind was racing somewhere else. But there and then it felt like it was this moment that I "arrived", in my life, in my body, I don`t know. I just know that it was like suddenly being at the centre of my being, and I´ve never been off - centre ever since. Well I do have my melancholic episodes, my doubting ones now and then still of course, but that feeling of "not being quite here", that is gone. I am as fully in this world as anyone could be, and actually with every passing month I seem to feel more alive.
I don`t know maybe that was what my Moon has been craving (and it surely is not a coincidence that it coincided with the time I started losing weight, and if I start overeating again, in phases, I take it as a sign, that something is getting slightly off-centred again, and can correct it more quickly now).
Don`t know maybe it is the mix of Aqua and 2nd house, the need for mental stimulation as well as sensory input.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 19:15:33 GMT
I have an aqua Moon in 7th and a Scorp sun (which is like another Moon). So, freedom and deep romantic attachments at the same time, I guess. I like a guy who is unequivocally attached to me and he is understated about it, i.e., never overly attentive and in my face. However, and this is interesting - my sense of being independent and enjoying my freedom expresses itself best when I am in a secure relationship, as that appears to be important for my happiness. Nothing very unique there.
A strong emotional (or it's an intellectual requirement) need is to know that I am being of some use for the good of others, i.e., the world at large.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 19:54:10 GMT
It's hard to separate what pleases my Moon vs. what pleases my chart ruler. I think it's because the ruler of my Moon tightly aspects my chart ruler. Hmmmm. Let me see if I can isolate my lunar needs. Finding the right amount of closeness and distance. Adoration without smothering. Space without loneliness. When someone is inclined to think something out before they feel something out. Where I don't feel that the natural flow of my emotions is going to disturb another person's equilibrium. When someone follows my thought processes. Feeling understood. I feel overwhelming appreciation towards a person in these moments. When someone doesn't police my emotions, guilt trip me (even if they think they're being cute about it), or tells me how I should feel after expressing an emotion. When someone describes their inner life and it aligns with mine. Or if someone is describing their inner life and while I cannot personally relate, I feel an enormous amount of respect for how much they understand themselves Weird things like that Aqua Moon in the 5th
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Post by Violets on Jul 22, 2017 20:38:00 GMT
It is difficult to separate my Moon from the aspects it makes to other planets in my chart...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 20:45:08 GMT
I have a gemini moon in my 9th and it aspects every planet in my chart except uranus and jupiter and mercury(unless an 11 deg orb counts). I also have aquarius IC(would this be similar to having AQ moon?)
I like to have some attention from the person i am with but i also really need my space to think, I can't handle clingy behaviour or large dramas. Someone who will listen to my thoughts no matter how absurd or out there they are. I do like to be appreciated for the effort i put into things. Sometimes when i go hiking with my friends, i will go silent for a short while, it is to gather my thoughts and rest my mind a bit, so having this need understood is important, awkward silences are unpleasant. I have friends like this so it is good. I can be quite an emotional person in private, I cannot help the way I feel on things, only how i act on them. Like athena, i dont want to be told how i should be feeling. I appreciate the truth, no matter how brutal it may be. Lies hurt me alot more. I need something to do, the worst thing in the world for me is boredom, especially if i am at work. Learning something new or doing something that is of value.
9th house Gemini Moon trine ASC/pluto/saturn, square sun, opposite neptune
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 21:23:26 GMT
It is difficult to separate my Moon from the aspects it makes to other planets in my chart... It's hard! So much of what I wanted to describe was Mercurial instead of Lunar, and I still think I failed and mostly described what pleases my Mercury
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Post by Violets on Jul 22, 2017 21:55:16 GMT
I think truly and deeply, my Moon wants to be connected to the Earth. That is what brings me peace and calm. Nature, working outside. Studying insects and various forms of life (which I do fairly regularly), studying stones and crystals, writing, analyzing for the sake of emotional and psychological breakthroughs.
I don't know that my Moon actually needs anyone other than myself for those things, Virgo being fairly content to be alone.
Blending oils, making healing tinctures with herbs I've picked and dried myself...
These things bring me true peace and happiness, provided I have quiet and solitude to do those things.
Basically, I think it craves solitude, quiet, and a very deep connection to Earth and plant/animal life in its natural state.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 22:01:44 GMT
That's really beautiful Violets. I have a Virgo ASC and a wash of calm just rushed over me reading all of that. I love that Earth signs can find such a thrill in solitude, nature, and the language of scents/textures.
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Post by Ava on Jul 23, 2017 2:50:51 GMT
Thank you all so much! <3 I loved reading your answers.
More to say later, when I'm not as tired.
edit - yeah I'll just try that later.
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Post by Ava on Jul 23, 2017 2:58:17 GMT
It is difficult to separate my Moon from the aspects it makes to other planets in my chart... It's hard! So much of what I wanted to describe was Mercurial instead of Lunar, and I still think I failed and mostly described what pleases my Mercury What? No, it wasn't a failure! Great reading
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Post by the89freespirit on Jul 23, 2017 3:23:24 GMT
Interesting thread. I have my Moon in Scorpio in the 9th House. I think it's always been very important for me to feel like I am on a deeply meaningful journey. I've always been very introspective and, in the process of that, trying to figure out the grand sort of meaning in terms of where I'm going in life. I do crave a sense of adventure and exploration, even if (or especially if) it is scary or threatens to push me out of my comfort zone. I've never really had much of a comfort zone. I am always growing, always changing, always experiencing newer and deeper sides of myself. I would really hate to feel like I'm stagnant and like I'm not evolving as a person. So, I guess my greatest need is that profound sense of growth and self-discovery. I feel like my Moon needs something sort of "bigger" than everyday life. I've found that I actually seek a deep, intense connection with something rather than someone, if that makes sense. Connecting emotionally with people on this day-to-day sort of level can be disheartening because people sometimes aren't honest enough or don't fully appreciate or understand my honesty. And I have always lived with this unrelenting sense of honesty about my own feelings, even if it's not socially comfortable. I don't have any pretenses, in that sense. So, it's better for me to deeply connect with something that will give me the freedom to be that honest. It's a big reason why I've always been so inspired to be an artist. It's something that satisfies my inner ideals, which are often disappointed through day-to-day interactions with people. My Moon is making lots of aspects. One of them is a square to the Ascendant and I think that just makes me even more prone to act on my emotions. But, with my Moon being in Scorpio and Ascendant in Aquarius, the funny thing is that I don't come off as overtly emotional; quite the opposite, in fact. Yet, I am still letting those feelings act as a guide for me and staying true to what's happening inside of me. I don't really care about propriety. I would rather feel authentic and individualistic than pretend to have certain emotions that I don't have or to respond in a way that people want me to respond. Staying true to myself, then, is another major need and since it's a square, that hasn't always been easy or comfortable in life. But, it's worth it.
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Post by Violets on Jul 23, 2017 3:40:26 GMT
the89freespirit, I can identify with a lot of that, as far as connecting with other people. It's oddly coincidental that you mention it, as I've been pondering the same qualities in myself lately. Not wanting to pretend to be interested in polite conversation that, to me, is so...inauthentic, as you said. And similar situations. I normally have not put myself in situations where that's necessary in my life, but having kids forces me to be around other parents, teachers, etc. I actually compared those interactions to one of those dreaded calls to customer service, where you sit on hold for 30 minutes listening to horrible music and advertisements, only to speak with someone who can't help you and has to transfer you to their supervisor.
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Post by Ava on Jul 23, 2017 13:05:18 GMT
I normally have not put myself in situations where that's necessary in my life, but having kids forces me to be around other parents, teachers, etc. I actually compared those interactions to one of those dreaded calls to customer service, where you sit on hold for 30 minutes listening to horrible music and advertisements, only to speak with someone who can't help you and has to transfer you to their supervisor. I almost choked on my coffee reading that. 😂 So true!
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Post by Ava on Jul 23, 2017 13:38:57 GMT
the89freespiritMy moon's in the 8th, so it shares some of those Scorpio tendencies, a need for depth and realness. Thing is, I'm prone to cutting myself off and dealing with things alone, even when it would be much easier if I sought advice, help, company. Many times I've kept things to myself for a long time, believing no one could relate or understand, only to learn later that I underestimated people's compassion and ability to empathize. So I feel I've wasted a lot of time with a feelings of isolation and alienation, which were self-imposed. Considering my reticence and vault-like tendencies, the way certain intuitive people have anticipated my needs and met them felt nothing short of a godsend, and always left me craving more. It's like standing in a dark room where occasionally people just seem to know where you are and put a comforting hand on your shoulder. My moon's in Pisces and offering help has felt like second nature, while asking for help feels horrible. I don't even want to ask for help from doctors, my kids, no one. I ask my kids to do things just so they don't grow up 100% catered to, with no life skills. Basically I've tried to be self-sufficient, and I enjoy that process, but sometimes others don't, when it leads to blockages where I'm not saying what's actually going on with me...I'm just sort of out there. My husband says I'm the world's worst communicator. So I guess I'm also craving communication lines, from other people who are intuitive, and to develop some way to present myself that doesn't feel like over-exposure.
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Post by Ava on Jul 23, 2017 13:44:06 GMT
@intuitivefish I notice my fish duality so much, too. I think I can fade into other people, so it's important to fade completely out. I give it my all, and then I give nothing whatsoever. It's my only way of recuperating. I wonder if your 5th house is the reason you prefer to not be in silence? I love silence, stay up very late many times, just to have more silence. Usually I don't put music on in the car.
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Post by Ava on Jul 23, 2017 13:48:14 GMT
lumina That was actually an almost creepy moment, because I´ve always been at high mental unrest, never been in a moment, never really present, as my mind was racing somewhere else. But there and then it felt like it was this moment that I "arrived", in my life, in my body, I don`t know. I just know that it was like suddenly being at the centre of my being, and I´ve never been off - centre ever since. I love that!!! Ah and it happened all of the sudden, your arrival. Aquarian. Like the plug finally found its socket and source of energy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 13:55:48 GMT
AvaThe duality can drive me crazy at times. Yes music is very important to me I try to have something in the background all the time. I get bored with silence
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