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Post by Ava on Aug 22, 2022 13:56:59 GMT
Actual reading starts around 2:15; I watch on double speed. Lots of "fluff" in this video. - Ruled by Rahu, Rudra, storm...God of Chaos - Storming on people and getting whatever they want. Business people elbowing others out of the way. Destructive Nakshatra. - Lucky people..thriving in an age of material gains...going after their own happiness. Bonus
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Post by Ava on Aug 22, 2022 14:03:38 GMT
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Post by Lionessmind on Aug 22, 2022 17:55:52 GMT
Oh!! My all Gods!!π’
I am not a lucky person! π§
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Post by Ava on Aug 23, 2022 12:32:04 GMT
Oh!! My all Gods!!π’ I am not a lucky person! π§ Well if you find Vedic inaccurate, there's always tropical astrology, you know.
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Post by Ava on Aug 23, 2022 12:37:28 GMT
He says that yoga centers sometimes have Rudra for their symbol. I find that helpful and fascinating. The idea is, we need to find the calm in the center of our storm. He implies that the Nakshatras governed by Rudra are particularly called to this. Reminds me of these lyrics: I dove into the dark And I swear I almost drowned But I could see the stars Looking up as I was sinking down All is well All is well Heaven, hell, wherever I go All is well in my soul, all is well Now I've landed in the light And my eyes could finally see The darkness in my mind Was the path to set my spirit free.
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Post by Lionessmind on Aug 23, 2022 18:11:26 GMT
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Post by Ava on Aug 30, 2022 1:52:23 GMT
This woman Eve Mendoza is so impressive with her scholarship and sincerity. I haven't listened to the whole 4+ hours and only meant to get a quick impression of the conversation, but I kept listening to her. Cannot understand many of the terms, though.
Around 1:25:00 - She talks about how we (people with this Nakshatra) will just contemplate what various gurus say, listening to everyone, but at some point we need to concentrate our energies in one place. She talks about our great potential if we can achieve that. Concentrate, rather than dissipate. Later she says we're very good at spotting flaws in teachers, that's why we just keep searching.
Around 1:30:00 - "Welfare of the earth comes through Purva and Uttara Bhapdapad." (!) Love is another thing to concentrate on. "Throwing off something that's a burden so you can finally be free. Liberation and freedom...you cannot find that without some kind of loss...you cannot find it in the prison you're in, by doing more things that perpetuate that prison. If you want to have spiritual freedom but then you're wanting to make all these excuses for doing the same things leading to your bondage...these things you have to question."
"Fix your attention in one place. Fix your devotion in one place." (This is a one-footed Nakshatra.)
About 142:00 - Talking about Mercury...Budh Graha...establishing detachment, slowing the mind...contemplating the nature of this reality very flatly. "They think about all the harsh realities of being in a marriage...all the drama. They disillusion themselves. The same thing with wealth, or from having attachments to this world."
To my ears that sort of contradicts what was said before about fixing devotion? And I think most people become disillusioned through marriage, hence the high divorce rates. But yes I think I look at things "flatly" oftentimes.
Pls don't quote
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Post by Lionessmind on Aug 30, 2022 19:06:18 GMT
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Post by Electrode on May 5, 2023 4:38:37 GMT
Hey everyone,
It's been a minute since I've been on here but I wanted to post here because I've been recently studying vedic astrology quite a bit, and so far I have been quite fascinated with what I have found in contrast to what I've studied in western astrology.
I am a Shravana Sun, Rohini Moon, and Swati Lagna (ASC), and so my Moon is supposedly exalted. Technically Moon is exalted in 3 degrees Krittika (Taurus) but Moon is happiest in the sign of Rohini. This is because in Vedic mythology Rohini was the favorite wife of the Moon. The Nakshatra themselves represent the 27 wives of the Moon. Both Shravana and Rohini are Moon ruled nakshatras and make a person extremely receptive and emotional towards their environment.
The nakshatras themselves are also broken into several padas which represent different signs and rulerships. The pada determines which sign the planet falls in your D9/Navamsa chart, and if you have a planet in the same sign in both D1 & D9 chart, it's considered Vargottama status which amplifies the effects of said planet. This can make that planet's strength very powerful even if in debilitated sign. My Moon is in Pada 2 ruled by Venus, which means my moon is Vargottama status since I have Taurus Moon in the D1 & D9 chart.
Rohini Moon definitely makes sense to me as it talks a lot about creation, music, and art. It makes sense to me because I have such a powerful, over-active imagination. This nakshatra represents the power of growth and being able to perceive situations for the core beauty of what it is without being partial to the duality between the subconscious and rational mind. There is a YouTuber named Claire Nakti that goes into great depth on all the nakshatras and explains what each nakshatra represents. She explains a lot about how Rohini represents the birth of the feminine principle from the god of creation (the creation of Eve), taking film and people in modern life to explain how this manifests in our modern day. I highly recommend watching her Nakshatra videos as she has an amazingly beautiful way of explaining what they represent and connecting them to modern-day society.
Here is the link for Rohini:
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Post by Ava on May 6, 2023 14:00:13 GMT
Thanks ElectrodeWatched this on double speed. I agree Claire makes phenomenal videos. It's just a lot to take in. My daughter's a Rohini moon and a lot of this reminds me of her (she loves Tim Burton, for example). She also has no problem painting nude figures, reproducing classic works of art. I have Mars in Rohini and took nude drawing classes in the past. That's not my ongoing style though. Now I'm curious what my Vedic Mars placement even means. (I dislike Tim Burton movies for example. I adore Rohini sun Russell Brand but can't listen to him for more than five minutes at a time, usually.) I posted her video of my Nakshatra on the last page. I do find her disturbing and wonder about her own placements. I don't mind her saying my Nakshatra is, for example, common with serial killers, because that's just what she found when she looked. And I appreciate her attempts at balance, at showing the potential for good even in my Nakshatra. I think it's the missing visual expression of peace that bothers me. Too much screaming, horror, pain, blood, and not enough lying in a field staring at the clouds...which is actually probably 1000x more common with a tropical Pisces moon.
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Post by Electrode on May 9, 2023 16:44:45 GMT
Hey @ava
I get what you're saying. Personally I have never had much interest for Tim Burton movies either, but I did watch Alice in Wonderland and James & the Giant Peach while growing up, which is interesting. To me I see it as a big part of why I have such an overactive imagination. It also makes sense I have a lot of emotions ups and downs and fits throughout my life, but if I isolate myself from the world and scream like a maniac in my car by myself I do usually feel better. I especially related to the part where Rohini influenced individuals have been known to create spaces where people just act out their emotions with no purpose or reason to accomplish anything. Mainly I see it as being able to accept emotions for what they are and not letting the duality of humanity influence that perception.
If your Purvabhadrapada moon falls in pada 2 then it means it's exalted in Navamsa which means it yields extremely powerful results, which can counter the negative effects of this placement. Also, in Pisces the moon loses its constant need for integration with humanity and it becomes a receiver for occult knowledge. My Jupiter is in Pisces in Purvabhadrapada and it makes sense in why I am so driven towards studying topics containing occult knowledge.
I also found out that my dad would have his moon debilitated in Jyestha, and comparing it to debilated Moon in Scorpio (which would fall in either Vishaka or Anuhudra Nakshatra), manifests very differently. Moon in Jyestha is ruled by Mars (Scorpio) and Mercury (Jyestha) which is way overheated compared to side nakshatras and dries out all the watery influence of moon. Creates overly devouring nature when it comes to Yin principles, as Jyestha represents pennance.
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Post by Ava on May 10, 2023 13:45:35 GMT
Hi Electrode"I especially related to the part where Rohini influenced individuals have been known to create spaces where people just act out their emotions with no purpose or reason to accomplish anything." I like that and see it in my daughter, also in myself with my Mars there, there's this drive to express things as they are or how I sense them to be, without respect for expectations, conventions, etc. No wonder it's a creative placement, one has to think on their feet and possibly make things up as they go along. I do see how the moon is much more creative in this respect, because the moon is changeable and has more to work though and work with. I believe my moon is 1st pada, so an Aqua moon with Aries/Mars subtheme. KRSchannel has a video on it, most of it doesn't resonate with me, except when he says we join groups and sort of ripple out into the group out of care for everyone there. Especially in person I'm always alert and looking for ways I might make a group feel more cohesive. It's not that I always succeed but there's this social awareness. Do you not have your father's birth time, or do you mean your dad's moon is debilitated both in tropical and Vedic? Very interesting analysis about the elements, though I don't quite understand your last sentence.
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Post by FruityLlama on May 10, 2023 21:25:51 GMT
I seem to know quite a few Rohini moons - they do seem very creative.
I am Ashwini moon- have been trying to study vedic recently too but I can't seem to get my head around some things such as the navamsa chart for example
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Post by Ava on May 12, 2023 12:10:09 GMT
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Post by Ava on May 12, 2023 18:25:47 GMT
I'm curious about your nakshatra FruityLlama -- the video above is more about mythology than natal placement. At least it's positive. Claire Nakti's video about this one is quite negative. The readings have some glaring inconsistencies. This one seems neutral, basically starts @ 6:00: - Good physicians, healers - Move fast, doers As a side note, Vic DiCara says in the video above that Ashwini, in tropical, spans from 24Β°06' Aries - 7Β°26' Taurus. Wikipedia says it's 26Β° Aries - 9Β°20 Taurus. I wonder if there's an error here. I forget how fast the sidereal zodiac is moving via precession. But this does make me wonder about people whose Nakshatra changes in the course of their lifetime.
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Post by Electrode on May 28, 2023 6:08:04 GMT
Ava My dad's birth time that I am using was the time on his birth certificate. It technically puts him as a 28 degree Taurus Ascendant with Mars in Gemini in the first house, but in Vedic his Ascendant moves to early 2-3 degrees Taurus into Krittika nakshatra. His Moon is in Sagittarius with Sun in Leo in tropical but is an Ashlesha Sun (Cancer) and Jyestha Moon (Scorpio) in Lahiri. It made sense to me because Rohini Moon focuses on absorbing experiences and fulfilling one's internal nature, many of these experiences are absorbed into the Rohini native and everything is experienced from the position of childlike curiosity. Here the sensual nature of Taurus is at its peak and this is why it's strongly associated with creative fertility. It's symbolized the chariot, which often is used to fill and transport items. Therefore this translates to Rohini natives absorbing experiences and knowledge to further their inner growth which in turns allows them to express this creatively. Jyestha is often correlated with goddess Alakshmi and the 8th house (as Rohini is related to goddess Lakshmi) where Alakshmi is an internally hungry and starving woman who's constantly desiring to conquer and dominate, growing through the osmosis of experience that one undergoes only through tireless work and effort. This is why these people can conquer and dominate in any field because they can be the hardest workers who are willing to work from the bottom all the way up. However, because of the Scorpionic influence of Mars and this nakshatra being ruled by Mercury, they can be prone to being sharp-tongued and lashing out in verbally vulgar ways due to the paranoid and defensive nature of Moon's debilitation. In this way Jyestha Moon is internally overheated from the fire of Mars and the dryness of Mercury. The watery influence of the Moon is dried out and this internally starving nature is energetically put out into the world which in turn attracts wealth and prosperity to them externally (which is why people like Donald Trump and Charlie Sheen are so wealthy, both Jyestha Moon natives). I see this also in my dad's difficult relationship with his mother as Jyestha represents the eldest and in the ancient mythology she was jealous of Rohini who was Chandra's (Moon's) favorite wife. This is why Moon is happiest in Rohini despite being exalted in Krittika, so Moon is debiltated in Jyestha but it's very different from Anuradha and Mula, the two neighboring nakshatras which are known to be much more watery in nature. Claire made a first part video on the most mystical nakshatra, which was interesting because in that video she goes into detail about Shravana, which is my sun placement. It was really fascinating to watch as she talks about the combined abilities of Moon and Saturn to unlock a sort of psychic potential, citing movies such as Dead Zone and The Sixth Sense where Shravana natives Christopher Walkin and Haley Joel Osment demonstrate psychic abilities. What I think is fascinating is how there are so many people that are involved in relating these nakshatras that the people who play these roles end up having these same placements. I had found this other video that Claire Nakti did on Mystical Nakshatras where she goes into detail on Purva Bhadrapada at 30:18 in the video. She says right off the bat that Purva Bhadrapada is very key to consider in mystical fields as it tied with Hasta in second for most prominent occultist moon placement (125) as well as being tied for the highest Moon Nakshatra among 165 top astrologers. Definitely explains our shared passion and interest in astrology especially considering that my Jupiter is at home in this nakshatra which is ruled by both sign and nakshatra, which also explains why this nakshatra is so highly spiritual especially being in the Pisces sector of Jupiter. Even though your moon is in Aquarius I still see this as the Aquarius influence would make it so you would enjoy and want to spread your knowledge to help bring others to enlightenment instead of just personal spiritual focus. It's also interesting how many Purva Bhadrapada natives are the one's who have invented many popularly used tarot decks while Moon dominant individuals (Rohini, Hasta, and Shravana) are usually the ones that use their innate receptivity to access and read this energy through the cards. Also, I found this article which might be easier to digest and not as dark and cryptic as Claire's videos. I enjoy watching them but it is a lot to take in. Purva Bhadrapada Aman Bedi Astrology
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Post by Ava on May 29, 2023 3:21:19 GMT
Thanks again Electrode , I get inspired by others' interest in Vedic, even when it still seems over my head and not quite real. Is there a reason you use Lahiri? The 1Β° difference between that and Fagan/Bradley throws me off. It really never would have occurred to me to think of people as starving, the way you described the Jyestha moon. Now it makes perfect sense. Pretty eye-opening but also sad (to me). What's a healthy, balanced Jyestha moon like, I wonder? I'm really curious to know how Claire comes up with these charts and statistics - her software. I see some truth in what she's saying but it's like there's still a layer of interpretation I'd have to do, to really connect with the information and "tweak" the patterns she is describing so they coexist with my assumptions about tropical placements. Edit - too long & complicated I'm still open to this and aspire to learning more about all the Nakshatras, because a lot of it is fresh and unique and does ring true. Thank you for that video above, I've watched it before...she makes a compelling case for everything she puts out there. Some of it just hits me sideways and makes me wonder. I mean I specifically don't really feel drawn to tarot. But then I was pondering it, and I could easily imagine designing a deck for fun. There's a hermetic side to me that I associate with Pisces, and it feels perpetually misunderstood, so resorting to symbols as a last-ditch effort to get through to people makes sense. I mean if I want to talk about death but that freaks people out I can create a creative safety barrier by "just" making it a card, a piece of art, a game. But it's there in the deck, demanding discussion. Purva Bhadrapad is where the creator first connects with earth through a bolt of lightning, I think? So there's this shattered, scattered energy in us, like a scattered deck of cards. Thanks also for the article, I hadn't seen that one before. I have a lot of research to do; still haven't watched Claire's most mystical sign video. Is it Shravana that's got the psychic abilities? "I still see this as the Aquarius influence would make it so you would enjoy and want to spread your knowledge to help bring others to enlightenment instead of just personal spiritual focus." -- Thanks, I see some truth in that.
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Post by Ava on May 29, 2023 12:28:23 GMT
Here Vic DiCara describes the three pairs of Purva/Uttara signs and what they mean. My sun's in Purva Ashada and moon's in Purva Bhadrapad...no wonder I have a weakness for Purva Phalguni? Completes the trio.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Jun 18, 2023 10:27:54 GMT
I hate to be that person, but mine doesn't match me at all. Maybe 10%. In tropical astrology, if don't 'get' something, it logically comes together with the chart and its nuances. Or at least I know how to dig. In Vedic, not so much. It's Dhanishtha, btw.
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Post by Ava on Jun 18, 2023 14:07:27 GMT
In tropical astrology, if don't 'get' something, it logically comes together with the chart and its nuances. Or at least I know how to dig. In Vedic, not so much. Good point! Care to explain what does and doesn't resonate? Coming back to this thread, I miss the dance video I had posted that reminds me of my Nakshatra (dark) but it gave me such a bad earworm I had to remove it, in case it did that to others. I'm not so dark that I want you to have earworms.
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