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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 5:49:03 GMT
Having studied astrology for while now. Also having conversations with a couple of you about the experiences we've had together. Along with reflecting on my life. I never really put it together but I think I may be an "empath". Possibly a bit more. It all has a twist though. With at least two of you here who I talk privately with. There's been a number of occasions where I'll begin certain conversations at just the right time. Such as asking how things are when maybe things are not great. Definitely I have no trouble knowing people's general thoughts and feelings. Being able to look at someone and immediately know what sort of person they are and if they can be trusted, etc. I easily get overwhelmed in public and in groups. The thing is this... When in public it's not that I get overwhelmed by feeling their feelings. I get agitated by the amount of energy incoming. Like drowning or distracting me from my own thoughts. So that's what I'm wondering about. I have Virgo in my 12th. So maybe that's it as far as I really don't FEEL things necessarily. Not in a way that I then take on the same emotions. I SENSE them. It's like I'm highly sensitive to it all. Does this fall under empath? I'm trying to define this so that I know what this is.... That I have. I never thought of myself like this but... It's pretty undeniable now. I always thought I was just weird or something.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 9:34:16 GMT
@vikalata , it does indeed sound as if you are an empath. Good that you're finding out where or why your challenges lie. There seem to be many helpful sites and books on empaths (one below) , even online tests to check if you are one. Since being a sensitive or an empath includes a range of qualities, online tests would only be able to diagnose the very basic - i.e., are you sensitive enough to become affected by others emotions to an unnatural degree. www.drjudithorloff.com/_blog/Dr_Judith_Orloff%27s_Blog/post/How_to_Know_if_You%27re_an_EmpathI think I am a borderline empath, if there is such a thing! As a child I only had to gaze at someone long enough to get into their skin so to speak. I felt their emotions to the degree that I became them. I seem to have developed coping strategies along the way: staying away from people is one of them. I did wonder now and then if I lacked social skills, or if I was some kind of permanently depressed person. Then put it down to the vagaries of human kind - and I just happened to be a little different. I am in no way as sensitive as you describe yourself to be. While being an empath does present its challenges, the extra senses it imparts are very exciting in my view. It opens up a whole extra-sensory world one could access more easily than most. So, in that sense, I envy you.
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Jul 7, 2017 12:16:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 12:16:24 GMT
Thanks for sharing that with me! I will definitely have to look deeper into that. According to the quiz and just other things that I've read in that article. There's no doubt. It feels weird to think of myself that way. As time goes on however, it's getting more and more difficult to keep denying to myself that is true. Plus is really not fun at all. It's not like, "oh I have this superpower." It's like, "this sucks. Why me?" It's got an irony to it. Such as, "why do I have to be one when I don't even really like people?!?" But then I think about it and maybe this is exactly why I don't. There were questions and comments in the article that I hadn't thought of or applied as a sign before. Such as insisting taking my own car. I also insist on sitting against the wall or in the corner. Hahaha That gave me a chuckle. That one is really important to me!
Well I guess I better get reading into it. π I've been trying to make some internal life changes lately and this might as well be one. Not to shut it off but to get control of it. Or... Hmmm.. have more awareness of what's going on and how to use it better.
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Jul 7, 2017 12:50:24 GMT
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Post by anela on Jul 7, 2017 12:50:24 GMT
I don't know that empaths are always drained by crowds. I've read that before (this is from the link posted above), but depending on the crowd, I like the energy. I need to be around people. Not necessarily interacting, just being there.
Have I been labeled as βtoo emotionalβ or overly sensitive? Have I!
If a friend is distraught, do I start feeling it too? Sometimes.
Are my feelings easily hurt? Yes, they can be.
Am I emotionally drained by crowds, require time alone to revive? Answered this above.
Do my nerves get frayed by noise, smells, or excessive talk? Yes, smells, and excessive talk, if I'm being talked *at*. Noise, if there's too much of it. If I'm in pain (like cramps), I'm really sensitive and grouchy.
Do I prefer taking my own car places so that I can leave when I please? I can't drive, but I prefer going with dad, than others.
Do I overeat to cope with emotional stress? Sometimes. I tend to lose my appetite if I'm in shock, or really stressed.
Am I afraid of becoming engulfed by intimate relationships? Yes.
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Jul 7, 2017 13:45:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 13:45:59 GMT
The only thing that throws me off is that I don't think I FEEL what others feel. It's like..... You know those electrostatic globes? It's like walking through a room of those. You just want to curl up so as to not get shocked and close your eyes to block the light. But I don't feel like I suddenly am an electrostatic globe or that I'm somehow absorbing the electricity. It just distracts me and irritates me. I would definitely say I'm an "intuitive empath" based on what I've read in that book so far. Just "knowing" things. Maybe to some extent a "mediumship" one.
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Jul 7, 2017 15:46:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 15:46:23 GMT
It's very difficult to describe! I'll have to spend some time analyzing it in detail...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 16:09:33 GMT
Interesting that it involves moon, mercury, Virgo by sign and pisces by house. Mercury kind of being the focus. Communicative intuition seems strongest for me. When someone speaks (more so in person than online) I'm able to catch meanings that they are trying to hide or cover up. Like subliminal messages. Like the picture I posted. It's through words, tone, body language, eyes, facial expressions, and even the topic flow from one thing to the next. Like a chain, not just seeing the link directly in front, but the chain(s) that tie together the entire thing. Even initiating conversations that the other person was thinking of, even through online, is communication based.
I'm just plowing through my own thoughts out loud.
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Jul 7, 2017 17:03:03 GMT
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Post by Violets on Jul 7, 2017 17:03:03 GMT
I like your observation about Virgo/Pisces, Ava. It does feel that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 17:05:09 GMT
I would add Neptune to the mix.
It would be interesting to see if any of the asteroids below are prominent for you, @vikalata .
1488 AURA - sensitivity to others, perhaps 5264 TELEPHUS - telepathy 69230 HERMES - communication 1912 ANUBIS - knowledge of death/change/soul journey 16 PSYCHE PALLAS - inner wisdom; the 3rd eye 4227 KAALI - kundalini energy
1388, 5264,69230,1912,16, 4227
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Jul 7, 2017 17:08:56 GMT
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Post by Violets on Jul 7, 2017 17:08:56 GMT
I've been wanting to respond to this, but I'm still trying to figure out how to put my thoughts into words while pecking at my phone.
I still have no real idea of what the term "empath" is supposed to entail, honestly. I feel it's a term that gets overused, like certain mental health diagnoses just get tossed around without thought. It's sort of a nebulous word to me, like trying to describe many qualities with one definition.
I'm also not bothered by feeling other people's feelings...but I "pick up" on them, or their overall energy. If I have to spend time around them in close enough quarters that conversation is necessary, I will feel drained. But crowds are fine for me, generally. That may be my Cancer Saturn in 11th, though.
I definitely pick up on and am affected by energy in general, though. So yeah, I don't know what we call ourselves, lol.
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Post by Violets on Jul 7, 2017 17:16:58 GMT
But yeah, @vikalata, I definitely believe that you're "tuned in" on a level that not everyone is. Your "hunches" are spot on more often than not, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 17:23:10 GMT
The ability to feel energies, be they human or spiritual, is a sign of spiritual development. If seemingly innate, they are indicative of spiritual practices and advancement from a previous life. One continues where one left off. People with these sensitivities may be intuitive, clairvoyant, mediums and have extraordinary experiences during meditation.
In physiological terms, these sensitivties are indicative of the kundalini having been activated and reaching or activating certain chakras. The physiology has been written about in great detail and is complex to say the least. It is why Gurus were needed to guide disciples along the path of spiritual advancement - certain things needs to be guarded against and practised safely.
How to relate these to the term 'empath' and the challenges that poses would be interesting.
One needs to be careful that one is not using the term too loosely. Firstly, not all people who prefer solitude are empaths - sociopaths are not, for example. Although, one could be both an empath and a sociopath. Just guessing. Also deep thinkers and reflective people generally prefer their own company.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 17:29:14 GMT
Violets Exactly! Empath seems like the wrong word but I don't know what else to call it. π
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 17:35:45 GMT
I can post my chart with asteroids if desired. I didn't see anything noteworthy in terms of planet conjunctions or opposition. I do notice the following: Anubis, telephus, and Pallas in 10th house (public) South node and Jupiter in 8th Then of course moon near MC squaring mercury (and Mars) in 12. Moon in Gemini (tied to mercury, communication)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 17:43:07 GMT
@vikalata, would you mind posting your chart here? It would be helpful to gather 'empath' or 'intuitive' charts in "Hidden treasures" for some light research. We could save them anonymously if you prefer but with a short description of the sensitivities these relate to. Violets, would like to see yours too .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 17:51:19 GMT
No worries about keeping it private.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 17:56:19 GMT
@vikalata , sorry, I made an error with the no for 'Aura' . It is 1488 not 1388. Please would you re do. Also please add Kaali (4227) , since there's room for more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 18:08:19 GMT
@astrokeen There you go! π I edited the post to the correct chart.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 18:26:22 GMT
Thanks!
@vikalata , what is noteworthy in the chart is Kaali conjunct Neptune - indicating a sensitivity to spiritual energies. You may in fact be very successful at meditation or kundalini yoga. Kaali and Neptune are semi-sextile Hermes (a shadow Mercury) which emphasises an ability to experience these energies.
Kaali is sextile Pluto which indicates a potential for developing occult or psychic abilities. There is no affliction as far I can see, that would have been a warning to keep away from this arena.
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Jul 7, 2017 19:02:34 GMT
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Post by Violets on Jul 7, 2017 19:02:34 GMT
Okay, I'll be back momentarily with my chart and relevant asteroids. π And by "momentarily" I mean later today, hahaha. There are some things one cannot override about the Pisces Sun. π
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