Vlad's Birthtime ... or USSR shooting down of USA B-29?

[t5]

On 7th October 1952 ... a USA B-29 was shot down by the USSR, whilst flying over Japan ... resulting in a claim for compensation being filed with the International Court of Justice which (I think) the latter ultimately decided was outside their jurisdiction (as claimed by the USSR).

In effect, this was very much a cold-war "victory" for the USSR ... So, is it just a co-incidence that the AstroDataBank birthtime given for Vladimir Putin is exactly the same as the USSR claimed to have shot down that B-29?

[t5]

The AstroDataBank source notes for VP's birthtime state that "members of the KGB are instructed to never release personal information". ... So, my guess is that this birthchart depicts Vladimir Putin in the way that he wants to be seen (particularly by astrologers in the West).

And one needs only to read the differing accounts** of the USA and the USSR about the shooting down of this B-29 to see the mindset that VP has displayed in the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine. ... (**Appendices 1+2 of www.icj-cij.org/public/files/case-related/28/028-19550602-APP-1-00-BI.pdf )

[ **USSR CONCLUDING STATEMENT :-

On October 7, 1952, an American four-engine bomber of the

B-zg type from 14 hours 31 minutes until 15 hours 30 minutes

Khabarovsk time conducted flights obviously for reconnaissance

purposes and during the first violation of the state boundary of the

USSR in the period from 14 hours 33 minutes to 14 hours 37

minutes a reconnaissance of the island of Tanfiler, \iras conducted

by it, during the second violation in the period from 15 hours

20 minutes to 15 hours 23 minutes the results of the first reconnaissance flight over the southwestern part of the island of Tanfilev

were verified by it.

Having fulfilled, apparently, the first part of its task for the

reconnaissance of the island of Tanfilev the American B-29 airplane

for a third time violated the State boundary at 15 hours 27 minutes

and maintained a course toward the Soviet islands of Yuri, Zeleny,

and Shikotaii evidently for the fulfilment of the second part of

its task, that is for the reconnaissance of these islands.

Thus all three violations of the State boundary of the Soviet

Union by the American military airplane were premeditated and

were conducted with obviously hostile purposes.

The Soviet fighters, sent to the region of the island of 'l'uri with

the aim of warning the violator-airplane of its presence over Soviet

territory, acted in precise conformity with the instruction for the

defence of the State boundary of the Soviet Union, took all necessary

measures, risking life, in order to warn the violator by manoeuvers

without opening fire. However, in view of the manifestation by the

violator-airplane of obviously hostile acts, after it opened fire for

a second time the Soviet fighters were compelled to give answering

fire with the aim of forcing it to quit the air space of the Soviet fighter planes. ]


[**USA RESPONSE/ASSERTION :-

Japan - not USSR - owned the airspace, and had given permission for the B-29 to fly over it : The B-29 had been disarmed by the USA, so could not (and did not) open fire on the USSR fighter planes : Prior to being fired upon, the B-29 crew were unaware of the Soviet fighter planes and received no warnings from them : The USSR salvaged parts from the downed B-29, to further their knowledge of it's technology. ]

[lumina]

I understand that reasoning and if it is the case, it would make sense to me with a Scorpio ASC and chartruler Pluto on the MC. But who would want to be seen as a 12th house stellium person?

[t5]

Apr 19, 2022 8:49:33 GMT lumina said:

I understand that reasoning and if it is the case, it would make sense to me with a Scorpio ASC and chartruler Pluto on the MC. But who would want to be seen as a 12th house stellium person?

I'm thinking along the lines of ... VP was with the KGB throughout 1981-89, when the POTUS (Ronald Reagan) admitted to using astrology ... And VP was shrewd enough to decide that "if the USA look at me/my chart, I want them to see someone who was born when the USSR 'gave them a bloody nose'."  

[t5]

With regard to the B-29 incident itself, this seems (to me) to have been a (provocative) attempt by the USA to flex it's muscles in the Pacific ... where (since entering WWII after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour) they had made it clear to both the Allies and it's enemies that the USA aimed to be control. So, this was not a clear-cut case of the USSR being in the wrong.

Hence, in the chart of the incident (drawn for 15:30 local time, in Sapporo, Japan) there is a 8th harmonic triangle of Moon/Uranus/Saturn in 3rd/5th/7th - which perhaps enabled the USSR to avoid being made accountable for it's specific action on the day ... and a 64th harmonic triangle of Pluto/Venus/Mars in 6th/8th/10th - which perhaps reflects the USA's hardened cold-war resolve that ultimately resulted in the breaking up of the USSR.

[t5]

"Hence, in the chart of the incident (drawn for 15:30 local time, in Sapporo, Japan) there is a 8th harmonic triangle of Moon/Uranus/Saturn in 3rd/5th/7th - which perhaps enabled the USSR to avoid being made accountable for it's specific action on the day ... and a 64th harmonic triangle of Pluto/Venus/Mars in 6th/8th/10th - which perhaps reflects the USA's hardened cold-war resolve that ultimately resulted in the breaking up of the USSR."

So ... perhaps no surprise that this 64H triangle was activated by progressed Sun and Jupiter on 24th February 2022, when Russia began it's attack on Ukraine.