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Post by Ava on Dec 17, 2021 15:42:20 GMT
Pardon my interrupting. Not sure everyone knows the easy way to obtain this information, t5 . And I just feel like explaining, in case it saves sroo any time or sheds a light on the process for other readers: 1. Check the ephemeris for the year you were born. In this case: www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/1900/ae_1988.pdf2. Locate your birthday, look at the Mars column, and see on which date a "D" appears next to Mars, after your birthday. Figure out how many days this is, past your birthday. ( sroo , in your case, Mars turned direct Oct 28th, seven days past your birthday. So your progressed Mars turned direct when you were seven years old.)
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Post by t5 on Dec 17, 2021 20:09:11 GMT
sroo … Since Progressed Mars turned direct at age 7, consider carefully the Jesuit belief of “give mea child until the age of 7, and I shall give you the (childhood conditioned) adult”. So, I am suggesting here that you need to reflect upon the extent to which your own conditioned views/behaviours contributed to (your perception of) his behaviour. In essence, you incarnated in the current lifetime with a “retrograde Mars” issue that was recreated by your experiences up to the age of 7 … and he is/was an instrument through which you were given an opportunity to become self-aware of that issue, and consciously address it during this lifetime.
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Post by t5 on Dec 19, 2021 9:20:40 GMT
Ava … Stations seem to be the astrological equivalent of full stops at the end of one sentence and a capital letter at the beginning of the next sentence. Retrograde Mars seems to be a time to reflect (on why we behave as we do), before moving on (by consciously adopting a new pattern of behaviour).
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Post by dewdrop on Dec 31, 2021 14:20:44 GMT
sroo, "The type of way he broke me down was to look innocent and smiling while criticizing how I was, who I was, how I walked and talked, what hobbies I had. But as it was under the guise of joking and innocent fun, whenever I didn't go along with it he blamed me for being negative and a bad girlfriend that never appreciated him as he was. It was enough to not laugh to set this off. It screwed with my sense of reality to the degree of severe confusion."
This is what is called 'gaslighting' and it's a control mechanism. It works by making people doubt their own reality. It is a form of abuse.
I have known a few people who used this ploy, my exH, a boss, a colleague to name but a few. It took me ages to see through this. The trick is to ignore the charming, fake, rictus smile and actually listen to the words they are using. Then call them out on it. It also helps to have as little to do with them as possible!
In my experience those with Scorpio and Libra strong in their charts are the worst offenders. (Dons hard hat )
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Post by sroo on Jan 17, 2022 0:55:52 GMT
sroo … Since Progressed Mars turned direct at age 7, consider carefully the Jesuit belief of “give mea child until the age of 7, and I shall give you the (childhood conditioned) adult”. So, I am suggesting here that you need to reflect upon the extent to which your own conditioned views/behaviours contributed to (your perception of) his behaviour. In essence, you incarnated in the current lifetime with a “retrograde Mars” issue that was recreated by your experiences up to the age of 7 … and he is/was an instrument through which you were given an opportunity to become self-aware of that issue, and consciously address it during this lifetime. Hey t5, in curious about in what psychological way it would be beneficial to think about how my own behaviour/views contributed to (my own perception of) his behaviour. Take me through the steps of how it will psychologically help me.
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Post by sroo on Jan 17, 2022 1:06:11 GMT
sroo, "The type of way he broke me down was to look innocent and smiling while criticizing how I was, who I was, how I walked and talked, what hobbies I had. But as it was under the guise of joking and innocent fun, whenever I didn't go along with it he blamed me for being negative and a bad girlfriend that never appreciated him as he was. It was enough to not laugh to set this off. It screwed with my sense of reality to the degree of severe confusion." This is what is called 'gaslighting' and it's a control mechanism. It works by making people doubt their own reality. It is a form of abuse. I have known a few people who used this ploy, my exH, a boss, a colleague to name but a few. It took me ages to see through this. The trick is to ignore the charming, fake, rictus smile and actually listen to the words they are using. Then call them out on it. It also helps to have as little to do with them as possible! In my experience those with Scorpio and Libra strong in their charts are the worst offenders. (Dons hard hat ) Yeah! dewdrop Through the social services help, I've come to see it too, instead of self blame or self doubt my own experiences. For a long time I saw it as just a fault in me that interpreted it that way, something in my conditioning and childhood. But in reality all was fine, and I was just crazy. It's been healing to be hear that behaviour are not ok and my reactions should be listened to rather than silenced. "You are the only one experiencing this, so you are wrong" was his go to. The social services also was adamant about that people who hurt know about and they continue to use the power it gets them. But I wonder about energy heavy as you describe it. Maybe it's more about their own maturity level that then comes through theit aspects. Seen so many different charts that it can be many causes.
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Post by t5 on Apr 10, 2022 16:41:38 GMT
sroo … Since Progressed Mars turned direct at age 7, consider carefully the Jesuit belief of “give mea child until the age of 7, and I shall give you the (childhood conditioned) adult”. So, I am suggesting here that you need to reflect upon the extent to which your own conditioned views/behaviours contributed to (your perception of) his behaviour. In essence, you incarnated in the current lifetime with a “retrograde Mars” issue that was recreated by your experiences up to the age of 7 … and he is/was an instrument through which you were given an opportunity to become self-aware of that issue, and consciously address it during this lifetime. Hey t5 , in curious about in what psychological way it would be beneficial to think about how my own behaviour/views contributed to (my own perception of) his behaviour. Take me through the steps of how it will psychologically help me. Hi sroo ... I have been taking a break from astrology for a while, so have only just seen this post by you. Do you still want me to reply to it?
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