New Moon @ 16° Leo, Aug 8th

[Ava]

Earlier today, East Coast USA




Mercury is the apex of that yod, Mercury = Neptune/Pluto midpoint

Mercury: One who communicates with great subtlety, which, of course, may be lost on other people. The communication of intense and powerful fantasies. Thinking which is extremely confused.

johnsandbach.net/astrology/neptuneplutomidpoint/

Not sure how well that fits when Mercury is the apex of a yod and opposing Jupiter. Not quite as subtle?

[Ava]

Pretty fateful when you consider the draconic and natal-to-draconic comparison chart:

- New moon conjunct tropical NN. How often does that even happen? Not sure if I've seen it in a chart before, at least not that exact. It's especially striking because the new moon squares Uranus.

- Venus conjunct Karma exact

[lumina]

Aug 9, 2021 2:47:12 GMT Ava said:

Not sure how well that fits when Mercury is the apex of a yod and opposing Jupiter. Not quite as subtle?

Definitely would agree and think it also depends on other aspects in play, to MErcury, also other midpoints, plus let`s not forget the New Moon was squared by Uranus.

Also Neptune and Pluto are the two farthest outer planets, I know people tend to put the label "subtle" of anything having to do with Neptune, but in my perception that is only true if Neptune is coupled with the softies of the planetary spectre. It is fluid, that is true, but that does not always mean subtle. Just keeping in mind what water, esp. on a large scale as Neptune operates on, can do. 


Hmm, so it seems my pr Mercury (24 Aquarius) was pretty much on that transiting midpoint as well. It`s funny, pr Mercury is conjunct my natal PSYCHE exactly. 

This is related to an older eclipse, but she talks a little about Neptune/PLuto in combination

star4cast.com/neptune-pluto-hubris-and-nemesis/



It`s also called the supernatural midpoint, I think by Noel Tyl and some others. Well I`ve been having a pretty intense dream life (which is not limited to when I sleep as you know), my natal Neptune/Pluto-mp must be on 9 Scorpio (Neptune on 9 Sag, Pluto on 9 Libra), and my pr Moon is progressing there. 

Hmm checking this now

natal Neptune/Pluto 9°31 Scorpio
pr NEptune/PLuto 10°14 Scorpio

pr Moon 8°52 Scorpio


so yes definitely pr Moon already in orb to conjunct natal Neptune/PLuto


Actually it also is conjunct pr Pluto/Node 8°30 Scorpio
and opposes pr Venus/Saturn 8°56 Taurus - ouch!


It passed my natal Mars/Pluto, Neptune/MC and Node/MC, all on 7 Scorpio about 1-2 months ago I suppose. 



Well NEptune/Pluto is big or major, but it can have quite some different manifestations. 

[lumina]

Ava

that Draco Sun/Moon on the NN 😮😮😮
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I suppose, though not sure about the degrees, it must be close to my SN (10 Gemini), DESC (7 Sag) and/ or Draco Moon (6°56 Gemini)!

[Ava]

Aug 9, 2021 9:44:59 GMT lumina said:

Ava

that Draco Sun/Moon on the NN 😮😮😮
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I suppose, though not sure about the degrees, it must be close to my SN (10 Gemini), DESC (7 Sag) and/ or Draco Moon (6°56 Gemini)!

Yes, very close:

7°51 Gem sun-moon
8°23 Gem true NN

While I'm checking degrees, I see this is my draconic Mercury Return:

15°16 Gem, transiting draconic Mercury
15°00 Gem, my draconic Mercury

Conjunct my natal Mars @ 16°01 Gem

[lumina]

Well it does make sense.

I don`t have any Draconic Return nearby, though I think I must have had my Draco Saturn Return somewhen in the last years (Draco SAturn is on 6 Scorpio).

I am going to have Dr pr Sun conjunct Dr n Moon somewhen over the next year(s) though, I guess there will be Sun transiting this at some point.


Well the progressed- natal New Moon in Draco will be exact in january 2023 (obviously building before), just thinking something like that will probably not happen all too often in one`s life.

Anyway DRaco Sun will be transiting that (already on 7 Gem) in July 2023, and at that time my pr Draco Moon will be on 25 PIsces, conjunct my Draco Mars-ASC.

I wonder who the groom`s going to be. 😜 JUST kidding, things like that do not happen to me. lol But might be an important timeframe.

[Ava]

Aug 9, 2021 9:44:59 GMT lumina said:

Ava

that Draco Sun/Moon on the NN 😮😮😮
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I suppose, though not sure about the degrees, it must be close to my SN (10 Gemini), DESC (7 Sag) and/ or Draco Moon (6°56 Gemini)!

^ bold mine

I missed this originally, in that new moon chart:

6.07 Virgo, tr Mars
6.21 Pisces, tr draconic Uranus

So a mixed Mars-Uranus opposition t-squaring your draco moon, also t-squares my natal 6 Sag Venus.

Speaking of draco Returns, my draco Uranus return is coming up, natal position is 16 Pisces.

[lumina]

Ava

YAY and the universe surely had quite a parade in celebration with us! Not quite sure I really share that sense of fun it has at all times though.

I think my Draco Uranus return must actually have been around the time I started this Duet-thing. lol

EDIT
It was on 26th february. Nice. 


Actually that Draco Uranus REturn had Draco Moon on 5°50 Gemini so obviously just a few hours later I was having a Draco Moon-Return. Which sort of makes sense though it is not astronomically related, but my Moon is in Aqua after all. 

Well Uranus is on the IC on 24 Aqua (I think my pr Draco Uranus is on 24 Aqua too, and my pr Mercury in tropical is there), and Uranus itself is in exact square to SAturn on 21 Scorpio and sextile to Sun on 21 Sag. 

ASC on 18 Libra, so it puts my natal Draco Sun on the DESC albeit not exactly.

But anyway not entirely sure what a Draco Uranus Return means. Though it seems interesting as we do not have something like that in the tropical unless we are getting older than 84 years of course. 

[Ava]

Aug 11, 2021 13:26:22 GMT lumina said:

Ava

YAY and the universe surely had quite a parade in celebration with us! Not quite sure I really share that sense of fun it has at all times though.

LOL 100% to that.

Here's today's horoscope:
cafeastrology.com/

Wednesday, August 11, 2021

Venus forms a minor square with Saturn and a trine with Pluto today. Rumblings of the need to change unhealthy patterns with relating and spending can lead to a more robust commitment to improving. Anxiety or troubles with matters concerned with feelings and affections are possible until we get in touch with our actual needs and wants. We want to share or enjoy life on deeper levels, and it's natural to get in touch with what we most love and cherish. The Venus-Pluto transit aids us in narrowing our focus to our advantage. We are more strategic and can see the value of patience, both with others and our own relationship goals. We might gain new insight into business and personal relationships now.

Mercury enters Virgo today, where it will transit until the 30th. We're especially interested in more precision in our speech, thought, method, and process during this cycle. Dealing with details is natural and comfortable now. We need to be careful not to lose perspective if we find ourselves overly focused on the details. We should also be aware of the possibility of expressing ourselves in a too factual manner, so much so that we come across as dry, critical, or unimaginative. However, it's an excellent time for organizing, sorting, and analyzing. We gravitate to helpful or useful information, and we can enjoy helping others with our knowledge. The Moon continues its transit of Virgo until 4:08 PM EDT when it moves into gracious Libra.

I thought it said: "Anxiety or troubles with matters concerned with feedings" -- not feelings.

I know (i) Lilith is conjunct Ceres and squaring Virgo Mercury so I was like "Hmm, yeah, problems with feedings."

I'm arguing about optimal smoothie ingredients with people on this new health forum so that probably accounts for the misreading.  And Virgo is in Mercury so I'm breaking this down for you. (Factually I'm not the one making mischief, this woman posts a smoothie pic/recipe and all the "experts" have to explain how every ingredient kills differently. lol Gotta love people.)

That is pretty weird about draco Uranus and draco moon returns being almost simultaneous. I'm not going to try and touch the math on that one.

[lumina]

LOL about that andecdote, about the different ways of being killed by ingredients of a smoothie. Yeah you gotta love people. Pretty morbid in a casual way, which to me also has a lot to do with Venus-Pluto in a smooth aspect. It is still Venus-Pluto but we are being smooth about it. Pun completely intended.

Oh had not payed attention Lilith conjunct Ceres sounds potentially risky, at least for people trying to have a child, but it does not always have to be that way. (just saying that cause both are related, at least in terms of the myths, to possible loss of children)

But it does not need to be that drastic always, one could also simply get very uncompromising (which to me is a Lilith-word) about the right way of feeding the world or anyone.

and problems with feedings makes so much sense, esp. with the Virgo-Mercury being there too involved. Must be on 00 of their respective signs I guess.


Hmm, so P is going to have Tr Mercury over his NN very soon, tomorrow probably. While M might be having a Ceres-Return, it seems, As you do, right?


EDIT
M`s Ceres Return happened on 3rd august, but she will already have another one in december, due to Ceres retrogradation and then probably some weeks/ months later the "real" Ceres Return, which then will last for 5 years I think. Not sure if Ceres has a 4 or 5 year cycle, but something around that number.