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Post by t5 on May 28, 2021 18:28:03 GMT
jacaranda ... The poleaxe is a chart shape ... A triangle with a semi sextile base and its apex at the far midpoint ... However, we do not yet know how to interpret them - as they have not been researched/explored by the astrological community. ... So, the nice vs kind issue is just something that I personally think might exist in this particular relationship.
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Post by Ava on May 29, 2021 2:19:13 GMT
jacaranda I read charts kind of intuitively and so this is just elaborate guesswork...some might resonate. To answer your question about good or bad "crazy"...it's getting to the point with me, where I can't say if a composite is good or bad. Each chart tells a different story. Your composite impressed me as extraordinary....granted, it's not quite as thunderous when we don't have the birth times. But still, to know that composite t-square would fall right on the angles if both people were born at noon...I think it's highly significant. To me it suggests the couple would have a strong social impact...they could be highly influential and like a "power couple" if everything worked out ideally. Obviously Neptune is the issue here...I wonder how the couple deals with it. Are they super creative, or massively confused? Does the Virgo sun-Mercury manifest as a kind of insistence on keeping up appearances, glossing over problems while sounding as if they actually have the problems under control? If that were a natal chart I would suspect the person is kind of lurking in a nether-realm between delusion and conscious manifesting and outsiders couldn't tell what the person was really thinking or what they would bring to the table, in any social situation. But whatever they do, they would always grab attention and invite speculation and commentary. Jupiter-Neptune REALLY amplifies the dreaming, and to have meticulous Virgo sun-Mercury parsing through everything all but guarantees some really high-level discourse and launch-points into a more colorful and vivid reality. As a composite chart I think this indicates unique potential for spiritual collaboration, maybe giving rise to codependency or squeamishness, as they feel the connection supplies them with something they couldn't find elsewhere. What makes it rare also makes it uncomfortable. It's the vulnerability of feeling trapped. Fortunately as these seem to be somewhat older people they may have the maturity to discern any "claustrophobic" feelings and make a rational choice about how to handle it. If the composite Pisces moon is conjunct transiting Neptune, it's easy to see how they might lose faith sometimes, feeling dissolved or hopeless. There could be a sense of aimlessness nagging at them. Things might actually get messy or crazy as they try and test their connection many different ways. They may rely on that prim Virgo sun-Mercury "front" to indulge all kinds of random topics, problems, people...there could be some overconfidence built into their approach to life, so they end up taking on more than they can actually handle. The more Neptune assaults them the more they might rely on the "tried and true" methods, instead of blazing their own trail. They may have trouble admitting defeat or seeing problems clearly....especially if the problem isn't anything outward, but within their own relationship, particularly the tendency to downplay its innate drama, and pretend things aren't happening when they are ("fake it til you make it.") It might actually be impossible to verbally and consciously dismantle this; sure they can say things but I doubt either will ever fully believe it. Pls don't quote
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Post by jacaranda on May 29, 2021 5:38:14 GMT
t5, so I googled 'poleaxe' and the only relevant info that came up was your old thread "Vibrational Astrology, 24H poleaxe"! A wealth of information there. I had to read it several times to try and understand it's implications in natal and how it could impact a composite.
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Post by jacaranda on May 29, 2021 6:33:07 GMT
Ava, this is such a brilliant reading. Thank you!
Yes, I see the codependency / feeding off each other's persona.
Inwardly, they have this cloying sugar-sweet relationship. She portrays it to be so. Him, not so much; he seems to be feeling the uncomfortable squeamishness. Some family and friends have wondered if it is all being faked.
As an empath I intuitively picked up on some disullisionment, hopelessnes, and suppressed sadness, which is why I looked at their chart.
A foggy neptunian relationship with one or both of them in denial. Possibly t5's poleaxe theory making an impact too.
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Post by t5 on May 29, 2021 6:46:28 GMT
jacaranda ... I think of the composite chart as revealing how the relationship will appear to third-party others as a two-person-team. ... So, IF the astrological community had a reliable evidence-based understanding of how the poleaxe manifests in one-person natal charts, we could apply it to the two-person team of composite charts (and Davison charts). ... Thus, the composite poleaxe would probably manifest via interactions between the two-person team and third-party others - but as seen from the perspective of third-party observers, that are not actively involved in the interactions. Hence ... if the composite poleaxe of this couple was active (thereby creating an interaction/event with a third-party) ... you/third-party observers might "see"/become-aware-of the poleaxe issue, but it is unlikely that the couple (or anyone interacting with them) will be able to do so - because it is a higher harmonic aspect (24H), and these usually manifest as unconscious behavioural/personality traits. BUT, have you ever noticed/observed either of the two people being "nice" when being "kind" was what was really required? If so, my guess is that will have been a problem in their relationship. [Note : I have just read your last reply to Ava, which indicates that you have indeed observed the "nice vs kind" issue in their relationship ... and he appears to be very unhappy with that having not being confronted/addressed/resolved.]
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