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Post by lumina on Apr 24, 2021 13:01:17 GMT
Was curious about the chartshape of P`s and my composite, seems to be a bucket too, but this time with Saturn and Moon at the rim planets (21 Leo - 22 Cap). And Jupiter in Gemini in 5th house is the handle planet, widely opposing the Mercury-Neptune-conjunction (5-7 degrees)
Well the midpoint of the rimplanets Moon/Saturn is at 7 Scorpio - isn`t there a new or fullmoon closish at some point?
Anyway, but Jupiter as handle planet is intriguing, well that particular Jupiter is on 10 Gemini so it is exactly conjunct my SN (and his pr DESC is at the moment at 10 or 11 Gemini I think). Also our first meeting chart has DESC on either 9 o4 10 Gemini.
chart patterns are interesting.
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Post by lumina on Apr 24, 2021 13:12:40 GMT
on second thought however it might not be a bucket shape but rather a locomotive as in between Moon and Jupiter there is a bit more than 120 degrees empty. (Moon/Jupiter mp is on 1°47 Aries. interesting)
Hmm possibly my own chart is rather a locomotive too?
Well from Jupiter to Saaturn there are 125 degrees, so technically there is more than a trine empty, which would be the definition of a locomotive, however, unlike other locomotive charts, due to me having a stellium, there are some blank spots in certain signs/ houses (it says an empty sign/ house is allowed, by after SAturn in my chase there are two empty signs, Leo and Virgo, don`t know how that counts)
P has clearly a bowl shape, and jsut out of the range for a bundle, as his Venus is "breaking away" as it looks like (Jupiter - Venus is 135°, and for a bundle it should not be more than a trine. Well from Jupiter - Moon, which excludes the unruly Venus, it would be within 108 degrees, but well Venus is where it is, so I guess this would be rather seen as a bowl).
Personally however I think my natal chart "looks" like a bucket, and so does the composite, as there are too many empty signs.
Per
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Post by Ava on Apr 28, 2021 0:44:04 GMT
Anyway, but Jupiter as handle planet is intriguing, well that particular Jupiter is on 10 Gemini so it is exactly conjunct my SN (and his pr DESC is at the moment at 10 or 11 Gemini I think). Also our first meeting chart has DESC on either 9 o4 10 Gemini. chart patterns are interesting. I think that's incredible! Thanks for your answers above, I was just nodding along, enjoying the astro observations. The way my mind works, relative to chart geometry, I'm wondering about draconic and progressed composites. In the latter case, it's like the chart may be on trajectory to form something striking, like a grand cross or yod eventually, but it's not apparent if you only look at the composite. Still I think the trajectory towards a shape means something, in itself. Like the book is already written and you may not experience "Chapter Twenty: The Yod Perfects" together, but the story was still leading up to that anyway, it was woven into the plot. This is more than theoretical for me, I've seen it a few times --> pr comp "taking shape" during matching, intense circumstances.
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