Let`s talk progressions..... today`s up: JUPITER ;)

[lumina]

Just think that for some reason we underestimate Jupiter in progressions, but at least to me it seems a big one. okay he`s the dispositor of my Sun, Mercury, Mars, NN and my chartruler and squaring my Nodes, so maybe that is why.  

But I`d be interested to learn about your Jupiter-progressions and events or developments connected to that, in the past, present and future (what? dont know the future yet? Well we can always paint one, right?) 

Also been reading in Celeste Teal`s book, about predicting events with astrology, and one thing she sais is that progressions are very important (using 1 degree orb), but usually are in the background but get REALLY centre stage if there are transits (mainly outer planets, dynamic transits - though I wonder if there is a progressed trine, wouldn`t a transiting planet occupying the empty spot for a Grand Trine being extremely important, too?) triggering progressed aspects or progressed- natal aspects. 


Well sometimes Jupiter is slow in progressions, but it depends a little, well it is always slower than the inner planets, but in my chart it is relatively fast moving (has progressed 8 degrees since birth, yes that is quick for an outer planet, saturn moved just 3 degrees, but then again Saturn is retro in my chart)



Oh and while we are talking about it, has anyone traced the motion of the progressed true Node, for when it goes direct? There are - I suppose - several timeframes, but it seems to vary a little. 

In my own case, I noticed that my progressed true Node was direct somewhen in the late 90`s, then the next time was from may 2008 until 2011 approximately. 

It will go direct again in december 2021 (until december 2023) - so I suppose it probably is already slowing down/ stationary or something, well interesting degree, too 7 Sag, which is my natal ASC-degree, though around now it is on 7°53 or 7°54 stationary, and my natal ASC is on 7°01 Sag, so it probably will exactly pass this one, once it goes retrogarde again (so after 2023). 


Anyway what I notice is that, after that direct period that is starting now, the next one will take place in 2050! There will be a 29 year gap! (who knows what will be then anyway?)

So it seems that I am entering pretty much the last time of direct motion of the Node for a very very long time.

Well the last time my pr Node was entering direct motion, my whole (approach to) life changed. But I suppose there were other progressions, transits, solar return at play that might have explained that, too, Still I thought that was intriguing, and well it fits the Jupiter-theme because natally Jupiter squares my Node, though by now it is at 19 Pisces, so far off the Nodes.

[lumina]

Hey Ava

my pr Jupiter must have been conjunct (exactly or within one degree - is it still?) your natal Moon. I wonder when that was exact.


Well the precise conjunction - zero orb - was in october 2014.

(it left the one degree orb somwehen in spring/ supper 2019, but of course there are always other progressions and stuff going on.



EDIT
Random observation
The one time I met the Italian in person, which was a very spontaneous unplanned happening. 

his pr Sun 19°13 Pisces
my pr Jupiter 19°13 Pisces



I swear, when I thought about looking it up just now I had NO clue at HOW exact it was! (I was guessing that it might have been closish to each other, maybe even partile, but THAT? No clue!)

😮

[lumina]

I start. 😁

pr Moon conjunct n Jupiter and pr Jupiter: spring/ summer 2004:
- my best friend got married
- I was preparing for and eventually did my exam as a teacher, obviously a lot of working in and for school (Jupiter in Pisces in 3rd house)
- a lot of socializing, mostly cooking dinner (Ceres is conjunct my n Jupiter) together, but also going out and actually visiting some plays by a local theatre group (gbecause one of my colleagues was an amateur-actor; remembering "Glass menagerie" by TEnessee Williams; I actually hd not ever read or seen anything before, but following this was reading a few plays, esp. "Streetcar named desire" and "Cat on a Hot tin Roof" - also watched that last one, and was impressed with some of the acting, especially by Paul Newman and Liz Taylor)


pr Jupiter trine n Saturn: late april 2008
pr Jupiter conjunct n Juno: may 2008
- the Jupiter-Juno was literally exact the day before I met P

pr Moon square n and pr Jupiter: july and december 2011

pr MOon trine n Jupiter: august 13 - I remember this mostly as giving me a reprieve from a very exhausting and extremely painful emotional phase in my life

pr Moon trine pr Jupiter january 14 - literally happening just after seeing Jude Law in HEnry V and there was a very nice new years celebration, at the end of november, P and me had an encounter, in which we acutally would use spoken words to communicate. lol 

Anyway the Jude-Law connection is funny, as my pr Moon was conjunct my n Saturn exact and trine pr Jupiter and also n Juno a bit before, and HIS Jupiter-NN-Shakespeare opposes my Saturn, and so on. 


pr Neptune square n Jupiter: march 15
- obviously that is my natal aspect, but around that time it became exact - plus there was a lot of other stuff going on including my progressed fullmoon in Leo-Aqua in may


pr MOon opposite n Jupiter; summer 2017
pr Moon opposite pr Jupiter: february 2018 
- lovely time
- btw also AGAIN just happening after seeing JUde Law on stage. lol  (but this time a couple of months before, 3 I think)

pr Moon trine n Jupiter: october 21
pr MOon trine pr Jupiter: june 22
- I will let you know


pr Venus conjunct n Jupiter: 18th december 2026
- exact on my birthday. lol 

well this and esp. the year 2025 justifies some closer inspection actually. In 2025 this will be applying (and pr Venus exact on my n Ceres, though also squaring the Nodes and NEptune)

But just a tad before pr Mars will be sextile n Jupiter. 
in 2026 it will look like this

pr Mars 11 Cap
n Jupiter 10 Pisces
pr Venus 9 Pisces


Well there will be a pr VEnus - pr Mars- sextile building, and coming into focus just when pr Venus joines my n Jupiter, and the sextile will be pretty extended, not totally sure how long, but I think 4 or 5 years. 


Of course at the moment i am just moving into my pr Venus squaring n Mars (literally just days from it coming into 1 degree orb), makes me a bit nervous. But this will not be as longlasting, just 2 years I think. 


WEll of course I have already had pr Mars conjunct n Venus (this was exact in late 2017 and well, as I said, lovely time), but I guess I have wasted that window of opportunity. lol AT least I do not remember any hot affairs. 

[Ava]

Apr 9, 2021 12:19:02 GMT lumina said:

Hey Ava

my pr Jupiter must have been conjunct (exactly or within one degree - is it still?) your natal Moon. I wonder when that was exact.

Well the precise conjunction - zero orb - was in october 2014.

We started talking over email in...2013? That was a very weird time for me, 2013/2014, learned a lot and I'm glad you seemed to think all the strangest stuff was totally normal, no problem.

That's crazy about Mr. Italian. 

Thanks for the timeline, it IS interesting how we go through life...or how we did, before Covid. 

I've said elsewhere, the one major thing my Jupiter does in progression in this lifetime is, it forms a conjunction with Chiron on my MC around 25 Aries, several years from now. 

In 2033, pr moon joins Jupiter-Chiron-MC and all that will be tightly sextile pr Mars and a little more widely sextile pr Mercury.

Before that, around my birthday in 2030

10 Pisces pr sun-moon
11 Virgo pr Juno, Rx
9-10 Virgo, pr draco Jupiter-Chiron

I just think that's weird, and Jupiter/Juno theme manifesting with my pr new moon. Of all the random things to pop up. Draco Juno's Rx and Jupiter's direct so these are still applying to exact conjunction. 

[lumina]

Yes, I think so. 2013.

The conjunction with the MC sounds awesome, not sure about Chiron, seems with Chiron it always can go either way.

2033 seems an important timeframe then, as pr Moon will "time" an active phase for those progressions, it is cool that there is a sextile to pr Mars (and possibly Mercury), that seems not too shabby. Well I always think it is important to check what ELSE is going on to get a feeling how a progression might manifest, like if it is rather dire and difficult or maybe opening up some nice potential. a Sextile to Mars bodes well I think.


you have your pr Sun-Moon on my Jupiter-Ceres. Anyway, seems very significant with that Draco Jupiter-Chiron, it does seem to me that often the Draco chart sort of foreshadows things in the tropical chart? Like maybe preparing the ground internally? or exgternally as well?

[lumina]

Actually there are some rather dire progressions coming up this year for me. (just looking up the ones that become exact this year)

pr Moon conjunct n Uranus: january 

sa Chiron conjunct n DESC: february (9th february - which is a very interesting timing, and so exact)


pr Moon conjunct p Uranus: february 
- the Moon-Uranus time was awesome btw! natal Uranus is exactly conjunct my 11th house cusp (Placidus), and I think that showed


pr Moon trine p Venus: april (2nd)


pr Juno trine pr NN: 4th may

pr Moon sextile pr Venus: 27th may (not sure how important that is, but it looks at least not awful)



pr Sun quinkunx pr Saturn: 6th july 
- this is one of the dreadful aspects this year, at least to me, and obviously it is now just a couple of minutes from exactness (estimating the motion of pr Sun, about 15 minutes applying or so)


pr Moon sextile pr Mars: 9th august
- my nieces`s birthday  


pr Moon trine n Jupiter: 12th october



pr Mars square n Pluto: 12th november
pr Mars square p Pluto: 27th november
- my Solar Return also features a Mars-Pluto-square this year, and pr Saturn is on and off conjunct pr Sun, so Mars-Pluto and Sun-Saturn seem... concerning? 

On the other hand I met P when I was having sa Mars square n Pluto (and sa Uranus conjunct n Mars), can`t say it was an awful experience, a shocking, yes, of course, but awful, no. 


pr Moon trine p Saturn: 8th december


pr Moon square pr Sun: 21th december 

sa Moon conjunct n IC 22nd december 


So there are some bit there to chew on, plus eventually Tr Saturn will come back to square my pr Moon, for now I have had a bit reprieve of this, but when Saturn gets retrograde it will start aiming for my poor pr Moon again, but it is what it is I will have to get used to that for the coming years. And possibly just enjoy the times when Tr Saturn detaches for a couple of months, or maybe that Tr Saturn square n Moon, actually is giving a frame, like giving tasks, and the in between periods will be me figuring out how to get to those tasks and finding a way to find some balance between the heaviness and making it somehow meaningful. 

That is if I find a good way to deal with it. There are very bleak other possibilities to this aspect too of course. 

Curiously I dread the quinkunx of pr Sun and pr Saturn even more than I do the Mars-Pluto-square. In my natal there are actually more harmonious aspects between those, Mars is sextile Pluto by 4 degrees, and Sun is in an exact 9th harmonic aspect with Saturn (actually Saturn is novile DESC and both are quadranovile Sun, so they come up as an exact conjunction of Sun, Saturn, Juno on the DESC in my 9th harmonic chart, well Juno is part of it as she has a one minute trine to Saturn, so I suppose she will also be novile or binovile Sun). 


But a quinkunx? Nah, I don`t like the look of it very much. Well there will be changes at the end of the year, as my parents are looking for a new flat. I am living in an independent part next to their house, but it is getting too big, and they are wanting to move out (by the end of 2021); my brother and his family have agreed to take over the part of the house my parents have been living in (which is our family home actually), so there will be a lot of changes. And obviously my parents are coming into an age, where there might be ailments. So seeing a quinkunx between Sun and Saturn, which is closish to my Mom`s natal ASC-Uranus (my pr Saturn) and my Dad`s Venus-Jupiter, and a Mars-Pluto-square, which is having pr Mars squaring my Dad`s Mars-SN and my Mom`s Saturn, ugh, don`t like that, but of course it doesn`t help to worry sick, and we know that sometimes the most dreaded aspects manifest in completely different ways than expected. It might simply be about the adaption to new life circumstances. But yeah does not really soo carefree. 

[lumina]

Curiously it seems my Mom and me have pr MC conjunct pr IC by just 11 minutes of orb
(actually my pr MC is applying within under one degree to P`s natal Uranus, but I honestly have no clue what he should have to do with my livign situation/ family or job/ career/ social status AT ALL, so maybe that is just utter randomness)

[Ava]

All interesting stuff lumina ...I'm still trying to stay focused on Jupiter because you wrote it in capital letters and everything.

But one thing, real quick: I had the same thing, pr Aqua sun quincunx pr Saturn in Cancer in 2017 for the split from LL. My SR was crazy that year so I've blamed it for the unexpected, weird fallout.

More to say later but here's a handy list of Jupiter transits, page 4:
shamanicastrology.com/wp-content/uploads/Jupiter-from-1927-to-2032-PDF.pdf

Jupiter exalted in Cancer when we started talking. Lots of emotional "inputs" to sort out then.

[lumina]

Yes, let`s focus on Jupiter, seems nicer (well just noticed however that my Dad was having pr Sun on 13 ARies quinkunx pr Saturn on 13 Virgo in summer 2018; my mom was having pr Sun square n Saturn, when my nephew was being born, though he also was swallowing a fishbone and was undergoing an x ray of her throat to make sure it was okay, which had her in hospital for 2 days or so, and I am sure she was also very shaken by my friend`s mother having died a few months prior; as for 2018, I honestly cannot say what might have happened then, indicative of that Sun-Saturn for my Dad. I was too immersed in my own life really.)

Interestingly what you say about splitting from LL. I actually feel like I´ve been splitting with the larger fangroup I have had more contact with in recent years, not because of any bad blood, it just doesn`t fit anymore, or maybe this will change once we can actually meet again. It also includes my aquaintance/friend M, who is simply more turned to other people, actor-wise but also other aquaintances, and I am rather less outgoing or outreaching to others and also less lenient towards stuff I consider really a bit silly. Though we were on the same page about that a while ago, but I think it is me, I suppose I simply have changed my thinking about certain things, especially the meaning of stuff happening in social media. And there is also the distance to M and the group he is in, I suppose this had to happen, as things are. And again, no bad blood, but the heart`s just not at the same place anymore, which is pretty sad actually.


Well and actually last night or two days ago I have considered quitting astrogarden, too. I mean it is not like there is really anything happening anymore, or at least only very little (excluding your and my communications, and sometimes yes others will peek in, btw how is Anela doing? ,b ut just been wondering if it might be time to move on from here.

But then again, I remember the last time I did that, getting that feeling, and cutting all ties and burning all bridges behind me eventually, and then I have a sideway glance at the ephemeris, and I see, ah yes ANOTHER nodal transit to happen! lol back then it had been the square, now it is the conjunction to my SN coming up, so this actually might be it.

And how to make that about Jupiter again? Oh yes of course, the transiting Node back then was opposing my Jupiter, now it is squaring my Jupiter.

I probably am just overthinking though. lol

[lumina]

Actually Tr Jupiter is presently conjunct my pr Mercury

But at the same time Tr Saturn is just starting to apply to my pr Sun within one degree.

and Tr NN is at 11 Gemini opposing my pr Neptune on 11 Sag and squaring my pr Jupiter on 11 Pisces
Tr Chiron at 9 Aries opposes my n Pluto and squares my pr Mars (also trines my n Neptune-NN)

Tr Neptune had been conjunct my pr Jupiter, but I think is now separating fro real from it (pr Jupiter on 19 Pisces).

[Ava]

Well it's a new moon in Aries, conjunct my pr Jupiter by the way.

22.25 Aries sun/moon
22.41 Aries, my pr Jupiter

All this on my natal Chiron, 23 Aries. Tr Mercury @ 14 Aries conjunct my natal Jupiter.

lumina

Speaking for myself (why wouldn't I, with such an Aries stellium transiting now?) I'm wondering in what areas I should turn a new leaf. Nothing here on our mini forum is problematic enough to drive me out; it's slow/dead but still a convenient place to post charts or "blog" about concepts, and it's an easy way to stay available to the old group, if anyone feels like chatting.

Jupiter = learning/expansion so tr NN squaring your Jupiter might feel like pressure to learn something new or different? Also you've had more stress as a teacher, so that fits.

I guess Jupiter transits and progressions are fascinating to me lately because they suggest hope, and I wonder what there is to hope for. As you were saying, we can paint an idea of the future. It's nice to get over that mental illusion that we're in some kind of continuum that cannot or will not drastically change. I say it's nice because it shakes the cobwebs out of the brain and helps keep me grateful for whatever's good about the present time.

Fangroups must be challenging now with the theater scene being what it is. No real substitute for being with people in person.

I'm ready for Saturn and Jupiter to stop being in the same sign. Even if they're not conjunct, there's push/pull in that area of life.

More to say later...

[lumina]

"Well it's a new moon in Aries, conjunct my pr Jupiter by the way.


"
Oh I forgot that we have a New Moon.


22.25 Aries sun/moon

22.41 Aries, my pr Jupiter



All this on my natal Chiron, 23 Aries."
Wow!

That is so close! (I guess it is conjunct my Chiron as well, but with larger orb, as my Chiron is on 20 Aries, but the exactness in your chart is really someting!
So this new Moon emphasizes/ triggers/ brings out your pr Jupiter conjunct n Chiron. HOpefully this brings good healing things. 




Tr Mercury @ 14 Aries conjunct my natal Jupiter.

I have Tr Jupiter conjunct pr Mercury (and sextile n Mercury) at the moment. 
Also my Draco MErcury is on 14 Aries, and Tr Venus has just been on my Draco Venus (25°55 Aries), peculiar. 




"Speaking for myself (why wouldn't I, with such an Aries stellium transiting now?) I'm wondering in what areas I should turn a new leaf."
Yes, totally agree.

"Nothing here on our mini forum is problematic enough to drive me out; it's slow/dead but still a convenient place to post charts or "blog" about concepts, and it's an easy way to stay available to the old group, if anyone feels like chatting."
Same here. NOthing too problematic that justifies leaving.




Jupiter = learning/expansion so tr NN squaring your Jupiter might feel like pressure to learn something new or different? Also you've had more stress as a teacher, so that fits.

Yes, I feel that stresslevel, and it makes me easily irritated. 




I guess Jupiter transits and progressions are fascinating to me lately because they suggest hope, and I wonder what there is to hope for.
Yes, I mean it is Jupiter.
"
Fangroups must be challenging now with the theater scene being what it is. No real substitute for being with people in person.

Yes, true, though I`ve never really fit in there anyway, even in person. 

[lumina]

Well for P there is an interesting aspect today, the New Moon opposes his natal Pluto on 21 Libra (which is square his n Venus widely). 
Tr Venus is squaring Tr Pluto today (26 Aries - 26 Cap), with Tr Pluto still within one degree of his natal Venus and opposing his natal Juno on 27 Cancer. 


Hmm just realized that the New Moon opposes composite Mars on 23 Libra and squares composite Moon on 22°52 Cap.
Actually our pr Draco composite Sun is on 22°26 Cancer square pr Draco composite Mars on 22°47 Aries

Tr NN (11 Gemini) is conjunct our pr Draco composite MC on 10 Gemini conjunct tropical composite Jupiter on 10 Gemini and his progressed (tropical) ASC on 10 Gemini (falling into the 5th house of our composite chart).

[Ava]

lumina

Edit: We were writing at the same time, will reply to that later.  

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I'm glad the sun/Saturn progressions for your parents weren't more difficult. Your pr sun/Saturn quincunx looks like it might turn out challenging, but at least you have stable employment, and is there a possibility you can stay there, if your brother's family moves there? Looking at your progressions & transits for this year it seems there is a lot of deep stuff, pr moon in Scorpio squaring pr sun with tr Saturn on the sun...but pr moon trine natal Jupiter might be able to turn lemons into lemonade.

Trying to stay on topic with Jupiter but you do have two distinct and unrelated topics in the OP, Jupiter and pr direct nodes.

Coincidentally my pr nodes are direct right now. Guinea pig at your service. My chart has progressed to Feb 21; when the sun was transiting there this year, I had pr moon conjunct pr true NN (direct) at 15 Scorpio. Interesting synchronization. Nothing much happened but I see in my notes I cleaned the house which is inarguably "evolved," right? Cleanliness next to godliness.  

In about three years my progressed chart matches the natal chart of Yuval Noah Harari. Encountered one of his books at the bookstore about two years ago and bought it (something I very rarely do...open a book and find it impressive enough to buy.) 

His books also examine the possible consequences of a futuristic biotechnological world in which intelligent biological organisms are surpassed by their own creations; he has said, "Homo sapiens as we know them will disappear in a century or so". - wikipedia

Haven't I been saying creepy stuff like this? How's that for Jupiter-Chiron, learning painful things?

I lack the courage and mental orientation to delve into that prediction with any level of detail and understanding, plus I disagree with him on some basic points he's made, but it's nice to have an author whose natal = my progressed chart. Furthermore, weirdly, when the sun transits my pr sun that year (2/24/2024) 

16.12 Aries tr true NN
16.57 tr Chiron
16.01 Aries, my natal Jupiter

There's a lot more going on then, where there's smoke, there's fire, but one thing I feel like mentioning is pr Mercury is *finally* for the first time in my life leaving shadow around then. 

[Ava]

Oops one more thing before replying more lumina

My progressed chart on my 80th birthday, when pr Jupiter has changed signs at last.

Too bad it looks like I'm gonna die (Pluto-ASC, one minute orb).

[lumina]

Ava

just quickly - I did not think my pr Jupiter would make it to a signchange, but actually in the year after my 90th birthday (LOL) pr Jupiter will enter 00 Aries, and like in your case, there is a Pluto-angle-thing. pr DESC conjunct pr Pluto 

pr Pluto 8°11 Libra
pr DESC 8°46 Libra
n Pluto 9°05 Libra


BTW in the chart you used, pr Jupiter has been in Taurus for at least a couple of days/ weeks, so at least for the entry point there won`t be a one minute orb conjunction, however of course it will happen pretty shortly after that. Just though it is curious that both of us have that Pluto-horizon-thing (of course who knows if we are even alive at that point? I mean seriously 80 and 90 years of age, is quite a number. It`s not guaranteed I even make it that far).


BTW in 2023 my solar arc Jupiter will enter Taurus. 

Oh scratch this. and Make it 22nd november 2022 - wellt hat is when the 0°00 Taurus show up first, and the date was too good to not mention it. lol Not that I think that there will be anything happening down to the day, developments work differently. 

However at the same time my solar arc ASC will be on 25 Capricorn, applying to conjunct P`s natal Venus by 6 minutes (so will peak around our birthdays I suppose. lol)

my solar arc MC will have just completed the ocnjunction to his n Uranus, about 5 months prior. 


my pr ASC is a bit slower (it will be on 20 Cap), but my pr MC will be quicker, and show up on 24 Scorpio, so right in bewteen his natal Uranus on 23 Scorpio and heading towards his pr Uranus on 25 Scorpio. 

my pr Moon then will be on 25 Scorpio exact on his pr Uranus - uoh, that will be ONE interesting Month I think. lol 

Well his pr Moon will be on 2 Leo, just separating from our composite DESC on 1 Leo, and being exactly square my pr Uranus on 2 SCorpio. Isn`t that interesting? Sort of DW? though for him it is a square, yeah, sorry, can`t help it. lol 

oh and in 2027, my solar arc ASC Will enter Aquarius, solar arc Mars and solar arc Venus will then enter Aquarius and Pisces respectively the year after that. 

while my pr chart will have pr ASC conjunct pr Moon on 26 Cap. 


That year P`s solar arc Moon and MC will be on 17 Aqua, right on my Moon and his solar arc and pr Sun will follow 1-2 years after that. And he will also have solar arc Mars change signs (probably in 2028, into Scorpio and then heading into my Uranus a year after that)


Well but first things first, after my solar arc Jupiter enters Taurus, then a year later in 2024 it will be right on my 5th house cusp opposing Uranus. But well I probably can need a little breathing space or relief or simple luck, as solar arc Saturn will ALSO be square ASC. Usually I´d say that does not bode well for health issues, but of course ASC is not always about that, and sa Jupiter to n Uranus, especially since Uranus in my case is connected to 3rd and 11th house, seems to have more to do with people? organizations? Communications? and obviously also involving my 5th house. 

Orf course Saturn can still be about that and create health issues, well sAturn rules my 2nd house and is located in my 8th (I tend to pay more attention to where it is actually placed lately, so 8th house in the centre) and the solar arc version of that Saturn is in Virgo and in my 9th house (and heading towards P`s natal Mars-Jupiter actually, where it will land in that already mentioned year 2027/ 2028. Hmm we have some interesting things coming up over the next year. I wonder if it is possible that we can establish a real friendship? I mean why not. WE are on each other`radar anyway (actually he sort of just "messaged" me, without words, but was bringing himself to attention sort of. lol Well he was just liking that last Tik tok video I did, on the "tonight" bit you remember? he did it cause he is nice and friendly towards me lately, but I was surprised at his timing, as I had not expected him to even check his Tik tok, as he has not doing any new duets there, and will not have the time. and he has not been on there for several weeks actually. But I guess maybe there was a break in his rehearsal schedule of today and there was not much going on elsewhere on social media, so he was having a look and saw that. Though it kind of is surprising to me that he would do that, on the first day of his exciting period of rehearsals starting, I mean he will have his mind completely on the role he is developing, the people he is with and the good time he is having, so it was a nice little surprising something today, a little something that put Transiting IC exactly onto my natal Sun btw, 1 minute orb, and just as exactly the transiting ASC onto his Saturn and in partile conjunction to his DESC. everytime that happens it puts his EVC horizon exactly onto my natal Sun. lol I do not even need to check this anymore, as it has come up before, but interesting timing again. As I said just a little thing, and actually I had been thinking about that duet today, it sort of was on my mind suddenly, but an improved version. lol But maybe that was also because he was doing it on the last concert, which I have still not reviewed yet, just did not have any time to get around it. And yeah, I get it, I must seem like showing a changed approach, a little more, not withdrawn, when I am there, I am fully there, I am just no tthere that often, because, well you know how it is sometimes times are busy, and sometimes schedules just conflict. But anyway it was a nice gesture today.)   

[Ava]

lumina

That's funny (gallows humor) that you also have an exact Pluto-angle conjunction in progression when your pr Jupiter changes signs. It's like "I could tell you" (Jupiter's in a new sign, learning new things) "but then I'd have to kill you...."

I was almost 14 when my Jupiter solar arced into Taurus. My mother and friends threw me a surprise party and invited the whole class (about a month after Jupiter changed signs). Got a ring I wanted. That might have been my first asset. SA Jupiter exactly squaring natal Saturn and I was dealing with my mother's illness and passing later that year.

Still that WAS the beginning of a little more material luxury, because I was babysitting and could finally buy myself real clothes. That was so thrilling at the time. Walking through the mall and actually buying myself stuff.

About 15 years later, SA Jupiter trine my sun, we bought the country property, very Taurus, we even had cows in the pasture bordering our field. (My SA Jupiter exact on husband's SN). Then as my SA Jupiter was leaving Taurus it formed a conjunction with my ex's pr Jupiter and we talked. Our Jupiters didn't pass like ships in the night.

Anyway...your SA Jupiter -> Taurus ingress timing does look interesting, synastry-wise, though I'm not the world's biggest fan of moon/Uranus.

"Well but first things first, after my solar arc Jupiter enters Taurus, then a year later in 2024 it will be right on my 5th house cusp opposing Uranus. But well I probably can need a little breathing space or relief or simple luck, as solar arc Saturn will ALSO be square ASC."

*Nodding* Well I can't speak from experience about SA Saturn square ASC but it does sound...cranky? So hopefully Jupiter in Taurus brings comfort and material abundance and whatever else to soothe whatever's going wrong. I like Jupiter in Taurus, just on principle. Seems a good place for it.