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Post by t5 on Jun 3, 2021 5:16:59 GMT
Ava ... Not locking doors (and perhaps secure in the belief that "God takes care of us all") would indeed be a good example of the 108H behavioural trait ... maybe with any undesirable consequences of doing so then seeming to be the "inherited trauma" issue hypothesised by Vibrational Astrology's Clarissa.
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Post by Ava on Jun 3, 2021 12:34:39 GMT
Thank you, t5. I assume the planets matter...with my father and I, it's 9H Mars quincunx Neptune, so the actions might be skewed by Neptune, almost a reflexive assumption that action (Mars) can't be decisive, logical, and straight-forward, but must bear the hallmark of confusion and dysfunction (the quincunx to Neptune)...at least in the 9H context. Since I'm still only seeing 9H as the Navamsa/marriage chart, Clarissa's position about family-trauma doesn't line up for me yet. More studying to do.
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Post by lumina on Jun 3, 2021 12:53:45 GMT
t5thank you for your input on the Davison. However Mars isn`t the Apex planet of the Quintile Yod, The Apex is Neptune, and this is opposite the Mercury-Jupiter-conjunction. Also when you rephrased what you meant with seeking feedback, the is more how I could relate to it. first it seemed to me, or that is how I perceived what you were saying is, that the playing in the 5th house is done in order to / with the conscious purpose of seeking feedback. And I do not believe that to be true. The playing comes from a natural place, people play because of a need to express themselves, explore themselves the world etc. Obviously there are differences in people however. What happens is that if you play with someone else, of course you will automatically get feedback, not necessarily verbally and analytically (though that could be part of it), but just by the reaction of the others, how do they play (with you)? Does it fit your style of playing? And there probably will be modification. Of course that is some sort of feedback-process going on, but I see feedback in this instance more as the automatic reaction you encounter and then you will react to it in a certain way and so on, not like reaching out to somebody and saying: "Hey I did that and that. Give me your opinion about that."
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Post by t5 on Jun 4, 2021 9:50:22 GMT
lumina Yes ... So, "theoretically, Mercury might have caused problems in the early stages of the relationship - but what is/was learned from that should help to achieve the Neptune objective." Apologies for my error ... but I wonder if that might be an attempt by the planets/cosmos to draw our attention to the (non-isosceles) Mars-Neptune-Pluto triangle, that has Uranus opposing the apex Mars. On screen, my software drew that 360H configuration in a way that caused me to mistake it for the Davison quintile yod ... but it is actually a non-isosceles triangle, with a Pluto-Neptune base and Uranus opposing the Mars apex. ... (Although manifesting from deep within the subconscious) the 360H = 9H/Joy x 8H/persistence x 5H/(intellectual) ability to see patterns that others do not ... And Uranus is highlighting the sign, house and planetary characteristic involved in making effective use of that 360H behavioural trait. I agree 100% with what you say in these two paragraphs ... but interpret it as confirming that "the soul can obtain feedback only by interacting with others" - and I (then) add to that my own belief that interacting with others can only be done through the 2-series of harmonic aspects. Thus, it is our respective definitions of the word "feedback" which differs ... rather than our respective beliefs/views upon the soul learning from any/all interactions with others. ... Perhaps I need to interpret the 2H-series as 'the soul's mechanism for learning by interacting with others'. Ava ... Yes. ... Complacency of the 108H kind is something that Neptune can create on its own, and - because Mars is uncomfortable in both Gemini and 11th house - Neptune is likely to be the stronger influence in the qcx of your own natal chart. Then you are looking at a 12H aspect in the 9H/marriage chart ... 9H/marriage x 12H ... and 12H = either 3H x 4H (pleasure in tackling a problem) or 2H x 6H (a developing talent). Might problems seem to "come out of the blue" to those who (unconsciously) derive pleasure from tackling them? ... And to those who are (unconsciously) developing a talent for tackling problems?
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