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Post by Ava on Mar 31, 2021 2:04:09 GMT
Basic explanation:
EVC = event composite chart, your natal + an event time, in composite.
If there's a new or full moon near the nodes in this chart, symbolically it's like an eclipse, because that's what eclipses are: new or full moons near the nodes.
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I just made this thread because I have this coming up in my EVC, April 6th:
1.26 Pisces, sun conjunct moon 1.15 Virgo, true north node
Bonus: 1.45 Pisces, my progressed sun
There are several concurrent transits hitting my natal chart and EVC. Tr sun = EVC Chiron = my natal Jupiter, all exact that day.
Will comment again if anything unusual happens....
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Post by lumina on Mar 31, 2021 9:04:20 GMT
That seems extremely significant Ava , especially considering a solar eclipse happens if the nodes are within 19 degrees of the new moon and a Total SE happens if the nodes are within 9 degrees. And yours is exact! I would also check for partile transits during the surrounding New and fullmoon and of course like you did the transits during evc eclipse day! Tr sun on jupiter even though it is a day transit seems big to me, and esp. Considering your personal Sun Jupiter phenomenon. plus even your pr Sun is involved. Seems definitely to be "Sun-season" for you. It is a South node eclipse which I personally see as neither good nor bad, but it refers to something from the past having to do with a new start.
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Post by lumina on Mar 31, 2021 9:14:00 GMT
Also there might be another solar eclipse and/ or lunar eclipse happening in the preceding or following months; even if wider in orb, might still be valid for making at least partial eclipses, depending on the orb to the nodes. "A total solar eclipse occurs when the Node and luminaries occupy the same zodiacal longitude up to an orb of +/- 9 degrees 55 minutes. A partial eclipse occurs from an orb of +/-11 degrees 15 minutes up to an orb of +/-18 degrees 31 minutes.( Annular, partial or total solar eclipses can occur from an orb of +/- 9 degrees 55 minutes to +/-11 degrees 15 minutes.)... A total lunar eclipse occurs when the Node and luminaries have an orb of up to +/ 3 degrees 34 minutes. A partial lunar eclipse occurs from an orb of +/- 6 degrees." www.astro.com/astrology/in_nodes_e.htmThe one you mentioned here is of course the major one, the big bell, the main message, but I wonder, if other eclipses happen around it, if those might add some "elaborations" of the big message, a prequel or an afterword so to speak?
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Post by lumina on Mar 31, 2021 10:06:14 GMT
Btw P already had his one, on the day of my February lunar return
falling onto his natal Venus on 25 Cap.
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Post by lumina on Mar 31, 2021 10:35:32 GMT
Mine is coming up in may, not as close as for the two of you Ava , but still well within orb. It falls onto my natal Pholus on 6 Pisces, and my pr Venus is on 4°13 Pisces, again, not partile, but still within 2 degree orb. Also my pr Sun has just entered 13 Aqua and will be on 13°09 Aqua, so the transiting Saturn will be right there. Well my pr Pholus is on 8 Pisces, so that means that the EVC eclipse will fall onto the middle in between pr Venus and pr Pholus exact. Oh I just see my pr Eros has finally decided to get moving again. It had been retro at birth, then eventually (don`t know when) got stationary and stayed stationary and stayed and stayed and stayed unmovable it seemed, I stopped looking it up. lol But now I see it has made it to 24 Cancer (at the beginning of may), so seems it is taking up a little more speed (it usually is one of the fast moving asteroids, but not so in my case, because of the retrogradation - stationary stuff). It is still soooo slow though, slower even than Jupiter, though I have some progressing planets that are extremely slow. lol Almost acting like fixed stars. Well Mercury had been one of them, but after having turned retrograde a while ago (2019 or 2018 I think), it is already almost half a degree quick! (which is still as slow as heck for MErcury, which is usually quicker than the Sun, sometimes a lot quicker. For comparision these are the speed of P`s progressed Mercury and pr Eros (as they are not acting up like in my chart) His pr Mercury: 1°45 (as compared to 0°35 in my pr chart) his pr Eros: 0°43 (as compared to 0°08 in my pr chart) Well he has some other planets that are freakingly slow, due to their retrograde and nearing station (I think) motion, including pr Mars (0°10 as compared to my 0°44 for Mars-motion) and some of the outers, including Jupiter in his case as it is retrograding (and actually re-applying to a trine with my natal Venus), and I think his pr Pluto is even slower than it usually is, 11 seconds of arc, just the same as my pr Uranus (his is quicker), but well my Uranus is stationary retrograde. Hmm, actually that is an intriguing thing, the individual speed of progressed planets and how it changes, not just in the case of the Moon but esp. for those planets slowing down or taking up pace....... EDIT BTW the EVC-new moon is a result of: a) the transiting planets replicating my natal Sun-Moon-angular distance (51°, they are septile) but in the reverse phase (I have the order of Sun-Moon, here it is Moon-Sun) b) Tr Sun square to n Moon (16 Taurus - 17 Aqua), and Tr Moon square to n Sun (23 Pisces - 25 Sag). So underlying this there seems to be some decisive stuff, as symbolized by the squares. Well personally I notice that Jupiter is part of the New Moon, and also that there is an applying Mercury-Venus-conjunction, that seems at least interesting, that it is not just the New Moon (and eclipse) alone, but accompanied by Jupiter and Mercury-Venus
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Post by lumina on Mar 31, 2021 10:40:54 GMT
Anyway, actually my EVC solar eclipse must be happening close to my true Node reversal, as my natal NN is on 10 Sag, so to have an EVC Node of 10 Virgo, transiting Node must be somewhere close to 10 Gemini already. Maybe not the exact day, but during those days/ weeks surrounding this.
Well actually it keeps on going back and forth between being retro - direct - retro on 10 Gemini for quite some week (and therefore holding the partile conjunction to my SN - and composite Jupiter- for as long), the actual exact Node reversal to my chart happens on 12th july.
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Post by Ava on Mar 31, 2021 14:38:18 GMT
Thanks luminaIt's tough when the charts seem more "grand" than everyday life, or the effects are so personal/quirky, it's tough to explain. Just a random comment about eclipses and major transits. I hear you about progressed planets being like fixed stars, lol. My pr Saturn is basically dead like that, doesn't move. Curiously the draco version of my EVC eclipse features a full moon, not new. Maybe that's just because I didn't align things down to the second.
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Post by lumina on Mar 31, 2021 14:46:38 GMT
. Curiously the draco version of my EVC eclipse features a full moon, not new. Maybe that's just because I didn't align things down to the second. Not necessarily. Usually that happens when the moons or sun's are close to an opposition and the near midpoint jumps to the other side.
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Post by lumina on Mar 31, 2021 14:50:40 GMT
AvaAlso hear you about the charts. Today is very uneventful. Lol Anyway usually if evc Conjunctions or oppositions are within a degree, it shows, according g to the symbolism of the planets. . As for p's ecclipse, this was amid and even startibg a very busy time. Actually 2 says before he first Commented on a duet of ours and two days after was the "your song" occurrence
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Post by lumina on Mar 31, 2021 17:27:58 GMT
Avawell for me the Draconic version remains a New Moon, but opposes Jupiter. Interestingly the Draco New Moon falls onto 25 Pisces for me. Obviously depending on the orb to the Nodes it would always fall onto the last degrees of Pisces/ Virgo or early degrees of Aries/ Libra, however having it come up exact on my Draco Mars and one degree of my Draco ASC is certainly interesting.
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Post by Ava on Apr 1, 2021 18:36:19 GMT
. As for p's ecclipse, this was amid and even startibg a very busy time. Actually 2 says before he first Commented on a duet of ours and two days after was the "your song" occurrence That's a pretty loaded eclipse in his EVC chart, I mean the NN is conjunct his draco sun-moon-MC, SN on his Venus, conjunct Pluto. No wonder he seemed to be going the extra miles (literally and figuratively.) "Mine is coming up in may, not as close as for the two of you Ava , but still well within orb." Looks interesting...I like the Cancer Mars sextile to the new moon. Good for catharsis, while tr moon-Neptune probably helps keep reactions subtle. We'll see.
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Post by Ava on Apr 19, 2021 14:25:39 GMT
Will comment again if anything unusual happens.... Eclipses can be times of endings, right? I think there may have been one around this time. Well, eclipses can mess with day and night, light and shadow. It seems there can be some inherent confusion and disorientation -- "What IS this?" For me, I felt pressured to make a consequential yes/no (night/day, binary) type of decision. I guess, perhaps because it was a Pisces "eclipse" I opted to take the most passive route, a kind of "no" ...yin ...feminine route. But with sun conjunct moon, you'd think it would find its balance in contemplative action, a very deliberate choice, *doing* something. It's night just night/moon/sleeping, it's day and night at once, sort of. Maybe the upcoming real eclipses will inspire new ideas on how to proceed.
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Post by lumina on Apr 19, 2021 21:03:50 GMT
"Mine is coming up in may, not as close as for the two of you Ava , but still well within orb." Looks interesting...I like the Cancer Mars sextile to the new moon. Good for catharsis, while tr moon-Neptune probably helps keep reactions subtle. We'll see. Oh I completely forgot about that! I see this is going to be on 7th may, just the day prior the June-Moon-concert. Interesting.
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Post by lumina on Apr 19, 2021 21:07:08 GMT
Ava yes, eclipses can be about endings, oftentimes this is more strongly associated with lunar eclipses and/ or South Node eclipses. But it does not have to be that case. Sometimes lunar eclipses just bring something to light and South Node eclipses mean something from the past resurfaces. Anyway, solar eclipses are of course a New Moon and that is a Dark Moon, yes, something new begins (or a chapter has been closed), but oftentimes it will only come to light later what it was that began or which consequences and results that has. Curiously I noticed for the first months this year that I seemed to stronger relate to the fullmoons than the New Moons. They just vibrated stronger somehow. Maybe it was just a coincidence. But I keep an eye on that. lol Though maybe it really simply depends which day the personal transits are stronger, and so far this has been on times of the fullmoons for me recently.
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Post by Ava on Feb 9, 2024 11:52:31 GMT
Just had one of these Feb 5
0 Aqua sun-moon (conjunct tr Pluto and opposing natal Saturn exactly) 2 Aqua Mercury 3 Aqua NN 4 Aqua Neptune
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