Jupiter Progression

[lumina]

Wow that is interesting. Maybe there will BE Expansion of communication with Jupiter progressiv into 3rd House. I have that natally and i Seen to never shut Up.

[Ava]

Dec 13, 2020 9:05:15 GMT lumina said:

Wow that is interesting. Maybe there will BE Expansion of communication with Jupiter progressiv into 3rd House. I have that natally and i Seen to never shut Up.

I have 3H Pluto natally, but it trines 11H Gemini Mars, so rather than shutting up, I just say spooky things.

astrogirl

It's tricky to differentiate between Gemini Jupiter and 3H Jupiter. For what it's worth I assume the energy of sign runs deeper and is more ingrained than the energy of the house placement. The sign is like who we are and the house is how we end up using that energy. Gemini Jupiter has a thirst for knowledge, facts, languages, experiences....everything but the kitchen sink. It's more versatile than 3H Jupiter, which is communicative...but may not be inherently as multifaceted as Gem Jupiter.

Taurus Jupiter is quite different, I mean moving from Gemini to Taurus is a process of deceleration, as you said. Part of what's slowing you down is a new appreciation for sensual experiences. You learn to be more fully present with all your senses. Sure you may have thought you were doing that before. But perhaps it would be helpful to understand you can take it to a new level now. Space is opening up for that. 

With Jupiter in Gemini, experience can be a means to an end, something to think about, philosophize over, craft stories with. My Gem Jupiter friends pay close attention to the small details and revel in them, not like a Virgo with a detective mindset, but just for the fun of it. The shift into Taurus is asking you to slow down and honor your own impressions and resulting preferences more..because now Jupiter is dispositing Venus instead of Mercury. It's love-learning. Gem Jupiter might race to, "I love this because...." but one word of precaution...you might not actually know, and you don't have to explain. 

A friend was born close to you in time and experienced this same thing, just with the sign switch. This person's sincere and profound but hyperfocused (Jupiter Rx) and sometimes not seeing the forest for the trees. This person seems to locate one strong emotion, and, Gem-Jupiter style, build a monumental narrative around it. But that sacrifices some of the real substance (Taurus/earth) and context.

Just in case you find yourself in that rut or moving in that direction, know it's totally normal. You can safely give up some of cerebral "real estate" to silence, to feel more and just be. Your senses, clear of excess mental chatter, may sharpen, and they will guide you...that seems to be a lesson of Taurus Jupiter, it's very zen. 

Not trying to be bossy, just concentrating on what the astrology might be about....


 
 
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[lumina]

Of course, your Jupiter will Always BE in Gemini. Also progressions do Not Change your inner Core, they might Show when and how certain aspects are pronounced and ripe for Manifestation.

[lumina]

Ava

Great Post!

[lumina]

Dec 13, 2020 14:24:13 GMT astrogirl said:

 Which do you think is more beneficial? 

I honestly think that what people consider "beneficial" is to a large degree coming down to a matter of perspective, and also beneficial in what way? 
Jupiter in GEmini is beneficial for quick mea ntal agility and expansion,w hile Jupiter in Taurus is possibly good in terms of providing stability, a sense of calmmness, less nervous energy, security and possibly even in terms of gaining selfconfidence or increasing posessions/ financial security etc. 

Just possible manifestations. 

upiter in Taurus in 3rd house might bring more ease, sensuality, lastingness into the communications and dealing with neighbours and friends, maybe also making one more interested in talking about topics that revolve around Taurus themes. 

[Ava]

Dec 13, 2020 18:33:11 GMT lumina said:

Ava

Great Post!

Thank you I meant to say, about this...

"This person seems to locate one strong emotion, and, Gem-Jupiter style, build a monumental narrative around it. But that sacrifices some of the real substance (Taurus/earth) and context."

Optimistically, I consider that an adjustment-period thing, and not a rule for how everyone would experience the transition. Just an example of how the energies could clash or seem a little strange to others, ie "You didn't used to do this."  

[Ava]

astrogirl

Sorry, I don't really have an educated guess about Jupiter in the 3rd relative to siblings.

But Jupiter increases...so it can be associated with everything from luck (increased wealth) to death (increased misery). All that seems apparent is, something is going to become more of an issue with your sibling, more highlighted and possibly consuming more of your attention. I guess we'd have to look at relationship charts and progressions to have a more nuanced guess about where that is headed.

[geminiblues]

Not sure if I have much to add beyond what has already been said, but for what it's worth...

I have a similar situation with my Venus Rx @2° Cancer, 1° into my 9th house. I lived the majority of my life with pCancer in Gemini and the 8th. Yet, the Cancer Venus was always felt, from a love of things with a family history and genealogy, to a preference for a Cancer archtype as a preference in romantic appeal. Your natal is your natal. Your progressions just modify it a bit.

I also happen to have Jupiter (and mars) in Taurus. As has been said, it gives an appreciation for the sensual and the enduring. A place to ground Mercurial thoughts and impulses. And maybe, in the third, it may give you some luck with cars and the many short trips Gemini is faced with. (I didn't see if you were a Gemini, but you said mercury is there...)

[geminiblues]

Honestly, the move from cancer to gemini happened when I was 3 or 4 years old, so it's how I grew up. The point in my late 20s when it turned direct was a bit of a turning point, and over the last 6 or so years, both mars and Venus have progressed into cancer (and my Venus return happened this year... in the middle of a pandemic lockdown). I can say that I'm definitely more mushy and sentimental than I use to be. Movies can make me cry now. But it's been a subtle thing.

Though, thinking about it, there was definitely some brief but intense activity around the week when pMars passed over nVenus.

[geminiblues]

It's actually late in Taurus and on the cusp of the 8th, so it also spent most of my life transiting Gemini. It went into Cancer around age 49 or so.

Now, in late 2012 through 2013, I went through many turbulent times.. loss of a parent, loss of a long term relationship, loss of a job at an employer of nearly 20 years... This was all happening within a 6 month span that kicked off the day tSaturn hit my ascendant. Saturn really wanted to take out the trash and make me stand on my own two feet.

So, this is the backdrop which mars progresses first into Cancer and then the 9th. How it may apply... I'm now self employed, work from home, and no longer work a normal 9 to 5 schedule. I began dating, and it felt like I was learning a new thing. I don't think I really dated when I was young so much as ended up in relationships. Though, that's been another journey too. Maybe Venus's return will have something to say about that... I suppose overall, the pace of my life has slowed, though hopefully with a little more intentionality with what actions I do take.

I see none of that actually answered the question!

Its easier to feel hurt. It's harder to just bury the anger and redirect it to motivation. Mars in Taurus is kind of a slow, stubborn mars, and often really laid back and really needs to get mad to do something. Mars in cancer is more likely to get "hurt-mad" but less likely to do anything about it.

[lumina]

No, why would you? Of coure there will be a shift in Jupiter-ruled things (it depends also if you have a lot of Sag or Pisces planets in your chart, than Jupiter is more "personal" for you;).

Also, a progressed planet stays for years, or decades in a house, in general on its own, as an isolated thing, it means.... nothing.

But of course it does mean something, under certain circumstances. The houseplacement of planets need to be "activated", or else it will just be a dormant cushion underneath life`s unfoldment.

What you want to look out for is the partile aspects this pr Jupiter makes or receives across the coming years, and how transiting planets (esp. from Mars onwards) will kick that off.

You also want to check what natal aspects your Jupiter makes, and how progressions and transits will reinforce those.

[Ava]

I think it's hard to put that into words: how we experience planets changing sign or house in progression. For me certain biographical facts line up with key changes in my progressed chart.

But then it also seems more circumstantial than personal. In third grade I was seated in the back of a dimly-lit room (teacher preferred it that way) for math class. I couldn't see the board and for the first time struggled with math a bit. My pr Mercury turned Rx that year.

And so on with other things, circumstances changing along with my progressed planets switching signs or direction. With the progressed moon, pr moon = pr planet has been pretty eventful, eliciting responses in keeping with the nature of the conjunction (ie, pr moon conjunct Pluto, both times I was grieving a death in the family).


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[lumina]

Thanks for pointing that Out Ava

I forgot to mention that at the time the Switch Happens, usualky there are developments taking place with that even If Not directly aspecting anything, so i would Not BE surprise to find transits setting IT Off at These Times.

The pr Moon is really a Huge one. For ne the Family Death Happened in the time after or moon squared Pluto. By then pr Moon applied to a sextile/ Trine to n Jupiter, and while there was mourning, IT also felt Like Liveration. The real hard Thing was the weeks before, accompanying the dying process.

[Ava]

Dec 21, 2020 8:32:39 GMT lumina said:

I forgot to mention that at the time the Switch Happens, usualky there are developments taking place with that even If Not directly aspecting anything, so i would Not BE surprise to find transits setting IT Off at These Times.

Well in my case there are events marking a sea change around the time of the progressed planet's shift, but the question for me is, in what way was I actually different for the duration of the progression? 

For me, progressed Mercury in Capricorn (most of my life) versus natal Mercury in Aqua -- was there a difference? All I can think of is, I had immense respect for, and patience with, the institutions in the past; I did my homework, I said my prayers, I liked filling in government documents. Sure I had a bit of a unique twist to it (natal Aqua Mercury), like I would take risks with the homework (once handed in a cinema paper explaining the reasons I could not watch the assigned videos; that excuse got me an A+, LOL). But I was devoted to these institutions, that's my point. Now I am much less Capricorn about it. 

Pr sun in Aqua versus pr sun in Pisces (still new for me)...what's the difference? I've really been trying to find something. 

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