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Post by anela on Aug 8, 2020 0:02:53 GMT
Since we don't all have them fall on the same day. I'll be back with mine soon.
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Post by anela on Aug 8, 2020 0:11:43 GMT
Almost time for a new one. I tried to do this on my phone, and messed up. It looks weird, sorry.
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Post by anela on Aug 8, 2020 2:00:41 GMT
In five days: I hope my aunt doesn't pass. Maybe that's selfish of me, though. Venus in Cancer, in the 10th. Saturn, Jupiter, and Pluto in the 4th.
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Post by Ava on Aug 8, 2020 4:55:23 GMT
I'm sorry about your aunt, anela. <3 'Still have a long way to go with understanding these lunar return charts but I'll be back tomorrow and see if anything comes to mind...
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2020 12:35:03 GMT
anela hoping that your aunt will be okay (well as okay as possible at least). About your lunar Return, I can be wrong, but Saturn and Pluto is not angular (I only call planets angular that are actually conjunct an angle), so things might not be as bad. But as I said, I can be wrong. (well I would pay attention to that Venus though, ruler of the chart glued to the MC, in Cancer, so there might be something about family stuff becoming prominent that month, but of course it being Venus it could also be nice things. Oreven your sister? Dontß know why I thought of her just now. But well Venus can be symoblical of women in general, younger women, and in terms of relatives most probably relating to a sister or female cousin I would think. a niece even, but of course it is your lunar return, chartruler is Venus, so it might simply be you standing out this month. Of course the aspects play a role, and especially where this ASC falls into your natal chart, and what is conjuncet the angles within let`s say 3-5 degrees, either from your natal chart or within that lunar return and what aspects are being made of those angular planets. Also the chartruler ant its aspects as well as the Moon, of course. And I personally always pay attention to the Sun, too, and the nodes. And partile aspects seem to manifest no matter if they are angular or not. So watch out for that Mars.
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2020 12:37:44 GMT
short addendum
interestingly, both, Moon as well as the chartruler Venus are peregrine/ unaspected. NOt sure what that means (well in recent lunar returns when Moon was truely unaspected for me, it seemed to produce a rather uneventful month, but that does not need to be a rule, sometimes it might be just the other way round, unaspected planets are somewhat unpredictable and might have a bit of an switch-on-switch off feel).
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2020 12:48:13 GMT
this is my current lunar Return LR ASC falls into my natal 8th house, conjunct Saturn on 16°57 Cancer and Vertex on 21°28 Cancer (on the far Sun/moon-mp on 21°31 Cancer and Eros on 20°59 Cancer - just mentioning it cause it all lumps there. lol) So I guess there is a clear 8th house emphasis here, with LR Moon in 8th house and the LR ASC falling into my natal 8th house. (yeah I would have liked it differently, too!). at least my Moon seems to have some assistance from Mars. LR MC is conjunct my natal JUNO on 16°58 Pisces. (so my natal Saturn-Juno-trine is becoming angular in the Lunar Return chart, I had that in the Solar Return for the year 2018 too, so in some way it echoes that, maybe I have to revisit so n(amething, don`t know.) It is a more "public/ outgoing" Lunar Return (most planets in the upper half), but then again I start working from monday on, or already have actually on friday, so that will bring me in contact with people by, and I will have some professional obligations to fulfill in august, too, that bring me out (and plan on seeing a concert at the end of august, but who knows?) Having very mixed feelings about that givent he current condition and me still having some issues with my digestion now and then, so my health is not completely "predictable", though ahving said that my iron deficiency has improved really well, and my blood test was quite good, so at least on that level some improvement took places. Well my Solar Return has Moon in Virgo opposing Neptune, Moon in Virgo is no friend to the stability of my colon. lol Emotional strain manifests right away in my digestion then, and I blame Moon in Virgo for that, and possibly peri menopause or something. lol yeah I know more information than anyone ever wanted to know. lol )
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Post by anela on Aug 8, 2020 20:51:54 GMT
anela hoping that your aunt will be okay (well as okay as possible at least). About your lunar Return, I can be wrong, but Saturn and Pluto is not angular (I only call planets angular that are actually conjunct an angle), so things might not be as bad. But as I said, I can be wrong. (well I would pay attention to that Venus though, ruler of the chart glued to the MC, in Cancer, so there might be something about family stuff becoming prominent that month, but of course it being Venus it could also be nice things. Oreven your sister? Dontß know why I thought of her just now. But well Venus can be symoblical of women in general, younger women, and in terms of relatives most probably relating to a sister or female cousin I would think. a niece even, but of course it is your lunar return, chartruler is Venus, so it might simply be you standing out this month. Of course the aspects play a role, and especially where this ASC falls into your natal chart, and what is conjuncet the angles within let`s say 3-5 degrees, either from your natal chart or within that lunar return and what aspects are being made of those angular planets. Also the chartruler ant its aspects as well as the Moon, of course. And I personally always pay attention to the Sun, too, and the nodes. And partile aspects seem to manifest no matter if they are angular or not. So watch out for that Mars. Thank you. Yeah, Mars conjunct my Sun, and in the LR 7th house. I need to practice reading my cards again, so that I can try to give back here, because you help us a lot. <3 I keep thinking of my sister - that's part of the reason I was so anxious on Wednesday. Just thinking of her husband, and everything he'd done, and he got away with it. Thinking about other people who just got away with things, too. People who happily work to separate friends and/or family members. I had been watching the Umbrella Academy, and seeing siblings together (having fun, bickering, working together), it just got to me a little bit. Thanks Ava . I realized when I looked at the chart, that it's almost three months, since she was told that her cancer had spread. Two months since she stopped treatment, I think. I've been thinking about studying something (not sure what), thinking about art, and also repainting rooms I meant to paint in 2015/2016. I'm trying to avoid my bedroom, for the most part - I had wanted to clean it up, and get back in there, but baby birds are on the windowsill, and the mother lobs herself out of the nest, whenever I walk in. I don't want to worry her, or the babies. I'm looking for good news, wherever I can.
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Post by Ava on Aug 8, 2020 21:27:29 GMT
I've been thinking about studying something (not sure what), thinking about art, and also repainting rooms I meant to paint in First thing I noticed in your LR was the yod with sun at apex, Jupiter and Neptune as base planets. I love Jupiter/Neptune for art appreciation...I believe you have the trine natally? Maybe those are giving the LR sun a creative boost. Anyway with Leo sun prominent in the 11th (is that your draco sun, too?), trine Mars-Lilith on your sun, seems an excellent time for self-expression. Not to mention chart ruler Venus on the MC. 11H sun, good for social awareness, Venus on the MC is good for expression warmth and positivity, moon on the 9H cusp for feeling expansive...moon forming sextiles with Vesta and the DSC, moon trine ASC, looks smoothly-flowing there. I don't mean to be grim at all but I could see how this might be a month for hard losses or heavier-then-usual emotions, too. 4H Cap stellium including Pluto, squaring your sun, and 8H Uranus. I had Venus on the MC in the LR when my mother died and it was basically a time of wearing my heart on my sleeve I guess, with support from friends and the community. But let's hope this is not the case and your aunt survives much longer. <3 Maybe the 8H Uranus matches the card-reading, as you said. I try and read charts but always feel the need to re-state that I am winging it.
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Post by Ava on Aug 8, 2020 21:56:22 GMT
lumina Digestion isn't always TMI and I think it's a good observation that Virgo moon is prone to issues with it. Or maybe all Virgo planets deal with anxiety and worry, being hyper-alert or hyper-stimulated somehow. I wouldn't know since I don't have any Virgo planets, not even in draconic. (I worry constantly but seldom feel anxiety.) I had a 12H Virgo moon in my SR for 2018, a year in which I wasn't exactly anxious but overwhelmed with nervous energy, unable to eat, constantly taking long walks to try and disperse some of that "buzz"...SR 11° Virgo moon on my natal direct Venus-Mars midpoint. Well you know. Strange times. Back to your LR (my actual point), I love the Jupiter-Neptune sextile on the angles. Isn't it interesting, you'll be teaching in a more disembodied way than ever, when you have Neptune on the MC? Jupiter-DSC square Mars. Well as you said your natal Saturn is highlighted here so even with the moon transiting mid-cardinal I'd imagine a more muted effect. Still, tr moon conjunct Jupiter-DSC on comp Venus w/ P, I have to think that correlates with something deep, enjoyable with a kind of gravitas. A good serenade maybe I'll hazard a guess at that.
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Post by Ava on Aug 8, 2020 22:21:55 GMT
My current LR Psyche @ 7°24 Gem, natally I have this @ 7°57 Gem Rx. More or less a Psyche Return with Eros on the MC. I'm thrilled about Pallas on my sun but don't know what to do with it. Right, Karma and Juno have me in their crosshairs, and I don't know what that Lilith-Vesta-Saturn t-square aspecting the MC-NN-Venus means. Honestly with the 6H moon I AM more inclined to just focus on work and mundane stuff. My LR chart has a lot in common with yours anela . Well fortunately for now I don't know anyone very ill and do not expect or dread bad news, not in a personal way anyway (the world's full of bad news.) Pls don't quote
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2020 22:26:31 GMT
anelayes it is mindboggling with what some people just get away. It is unfair, and bitter. Tr Pluto square Sun certainly is not an easy aspect, though it is not always so catastrophic/ disastrous as some astrologers claim, well Mars, heating it up, is probably not the smoothest thing to have, on the other hand it might give your Sun resilience and energy (after all it is its very dispositor even), and I could imagine you being very strong, especially this month, and if something is coming at you (not saying it will, we do not know that of course), then you will be ready to fight back. Well these are no easy times, that is for sure, on a global as well as individual level,b ut I think such a lunar return is a good example for strength and endurance, even if it is challenging.
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2020 22:41:21 GMT
Ava"I had a 12H Virgo moon in my SR for 2018, a year in which I wasn't exactly anxious but overwhelmed with nervous energy, unable to eat, constantly taking long walks to try and disperse some of that "buzz"...SR 11° Virgo moon on my natal direct Venus-Mars midpoint. Well you know. Strange times. " VEry buzzing times. that is actually a good way to describe it. a lot of nervous energy, I do not even think I am all that anxious, but maybe I am underneath, there is also a thought of "I have to function" at certain moments during the next months, jobwise at least, and the thought of maybe not having the absolute control about that, makes me anxious, and might worsen things sometimes. I do tend to develop psycho-somatic stuff. And I´ve had to process a lot over the last half year, and was not even aware of it, until other people pointed it out to me. lol Actually I wasn`t even giving it real thought, I just put it out there, cause I remembered that when I had the first phase of this digestion trouble, in 2009, my Solar Return had Moon in Virgo, too. In 6th house. (well this year it is actually conjunct the MC). I just had realized that both years had a Virgo Moon. I think this year Moon is on 12 Virgo actually. Back to your LR (my actual point), I love the Jupiter-Neptune sextile on the angles. Isn't it interesting, you'll be teaching in a more disembodied way than ever, when you have Neptune on the MC? Yes, I think it makes a lot of sense. Jupiter-DSC square Mars. Well as you said your natal Saturn is highlighted here so even with the moon transiting mid-cardinal I'd imagine a more muted effect. Interesting, yes, and I kind of did not really recognize that. lol But of course there is quite a Mars-Jupiter theme for P, his wife and actually me. Well we all have a natal aspect, though mine is the widest, but hey I have Mars in Sag, I still win. Well he has the conjunction; she has an exact square, I have a widish but functional (6 degrees) square, And synastrically her Mars trines P`s Mars-Jupiter, her Jupiter quinkunx it. my Mars widely squares his Jupiter, my Jupiter exactly opposes his Jupiter. and her Mars is closely sextile my Jupiter, and her Jupiter is widely sextile my Mars, well I wouldn´t usually count it, but the theme is just too glaring. so it is kind of interesting that I have an angular Jupiter this month squaring Mars. I tmight not mean anything in regards to P and his wife, but it possibly means something in regards to my own chart. Still, tr moon conjunct Jupiter-DSC on comp Venus w/ P, I have to think that correlates with something deep, enjoyable with a kind of gravitas. A good serenade maybe I'll hazard a guess at that. Haha, well on the first concert, when it starts, Tr MOon will be at 13 Cap, applying there. it probably won`t reach it during the concert though, but it is close enough for me. lol The next evening Tr Moon will be on 26 Cap exactly conjunct Tr Saturn, and both being within about 10 minutes of P`s Venus. Yeah not so much joy possibly, but who knows? He seems to have a weird thing for Moon-Saturn. I mean he got married with a peaking Moon-Saturn-square. lol it will also fall onto our Draconic axis of my Draco Pluto and Draco MC on 24 - 28 Cap, and his Draco Sun, Moon, MC from 25-27 Cancer, and his natal Juno on 27 Cancer and natal Venus on 25, almost 26 Cap. OR maybe it is not even related to him at all, but still Tr Moon will be right on the midpoint of my Draco Pluto-MC-conjunction.
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Post by Ava on Aug 17, 2020 15:48:21 GMT
But of course there is quite a Mars-Jupiter theme for P, his wife and actually me. ....and her Mars is closely sextile my Jupiter, and her Jupiter is widely sextile my Mars, well I wouldn´t usually count it, but the theme is just too glaring. so it is kind of interesting that I have an angular Jupiter this month squaring Mars. I tmight not mean anything in regards to P and his wife, but it possibly means something in regards to my own chart. So, I think you called it. Right? It's not every month you predict interactions with her.
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Post by lumina on Aug 17, 2020 18:23:38 GMT
AvaNo I don't. That is true. Btw P's lunar Return has ASC on 7 Libra, with LR Chiron in 9 Aries. His LR desc conjuncts her sun in 8 Aries. My Pluto is in 9 Libra and MC in 5 Aries. His LR will Change Just some hours before i am planning to attend the next Concert. And this is a rather rare occurrence this year.
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Post by anela on Aug 17, 2020 21:44:08 GMT
Lunar return chart went into effect last Thursday, I think. The last few days were odd - mostly okay, but Friday, I wasn't sure. Yesterday, a trump supporter, who doesn't know me personally, implied that I'm a satan-worshipping cannibal, because I'm a liberal. I almost made a joke in response, but she might have taken me seriously. Last week, before the new return, the Taurus started talking in strong religious terms, too, but wasn't mean about it. It was still odd to hear, when he seemed to be leaning away from it for months. A guy told me that my perception is really off, and made out that I live to hate trump, when I actually try not to give him that much of my focus, just enough to vent or talk about the election. This same guy accused me of having a crush on him, four years ago, because I debated him (again, about the election).
My agoraphobia is back - kind of. I'm going to deal with that. My English aunt apparently has had her surgery, I found out on Saturday. She had her bladder removed, and will need a check-up every six months. We need to see Aunt M, most likely next weekend. I need to get my ID updated.
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Post by Ava on Aug 18, 2020 23:31:35 GMT
Honestly with the 6H moon I AM more inclined to just focus on work and mundane stuff. 6H is the health issues house? Speaking of work, I keep injuring myself, burned my arm pretty badly yesterday making dinner and I have a large bruise on my thigh from work, probably bruised myself more today but haven't checked...I just had to do more heavy hauling than usual and my arms tire so I don't have perfect control of the boxes and sometimes hit myself. The large bruise on my thigh looks like an outer-space nebula if anyone cares. All different colors, nice & cosmic.
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Post by lumina on Aug 19, 2020 16:32:39 GMT
6th House is the "Adaption to immediate Environment" House.
Therefore it governs Things like health, Work, daily Life, daily Chores, Garden, per animals, colleagues, nurses, caretakers, being under the weather etc.
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Post by lumina on Aug 19, 2020 16:33:48 GMT
Sorry to hear bout your ailments anela and Ava.
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Post by anela on Aug 20, 2020 8:05:14 GMT
Honestly with the 6H moon I AM more inclined to just focus on work and mundane stuff. 6H is the health issues house? Speaking of work, I keep injuring myself, burned my arm pretty badly yesterday making dinner and I have a large bruise on my thigh from work, probably bruised myself more today but haven't checked...I just had to do more heavy hauling than usual and my arms tire so I don't have perfect control of the boxes and sometimes hit myself. The large bruise on my thigh looks like an outer-space nebula if anyone cares. All different colors, nice & cosmic. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. I use emu oil on burns, and it usually helps. I also used those - what were they called? Nu-skin? Bandages that cover a wound, and help it to heal safely. I also used a spray, where there was no skin on that one huge burn. I only have a very mild scar now, and that thing was big.
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