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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 19:36:51 GMT
Has anyone tried readings to see how the pandemic will unfold? Admittedly, there are all kinds of questions one could ask relating to length, severity, effects on economy/jobs.
In case you do, please post readings here.
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Post by FruityLlama on Mar 12, 2020 19:52:35 GMT
It's not a prediction as such but I do wonder what the lasting effects will be regarding our way of life. We may well find ourselves living and working more remotely once we discover how easy it is to conduct appointments through skype or whatever. In Audiology, we are already talking about doing remote repair clinics whereby the patient doesn't come in to see us, but instead we log onto their accounts using the bluetooth chip in their hearing aids and just fine tune the settings that way. Good idea, but I worry we will end up even more sad and devoid of real, authentic human interaction and socialisation which will inevitably mess with our psychology. I can see it happening though to some extent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 20:48:58 GMT
FruityLlama , it may indeed help companies realise how some work could be handled remotely, which could result in undermining human interactions and contact. In instances where these interactions come at the cost of travelling and, therefore, raised carbon emissions, it would be more advantageous to work remotely. Instead, a switch to local community activities for people could ensure that human interactions are sustained. This pandemic, for example, highlights how dependent and vulnerable we are when basic necessities need to be imported from distant places. Perhaps local communities could organise themselves to ensure that more foods are grown locally in healthy and sustainable ways - more allotments for cultivation, sharing of resources etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 22:37:29 GMT
This led me to ask the question: What will we learn from this virus? I used iching with clarity:
15, Integrity changing to 52, Stilling
I can see how our discussion relates to Hexagram 15. "What is the simple reality? How might you return to a state of balance? --- It means being honest about your own capacities, holding yourself in creative balance with your world and not exaggerating the importance of your role" (the virus affecting all regardless of their supremacy in the world).
52, Stilling - to be still and in equilibrium - this may refer to curtailing travel and staying put or finding a place of balance as suggested by the first hexagram.
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Post by lumina on Mar 13, 2020 10:01:15 GMT
I actually did that in February tracking the transiting saturn/neptune mp but just remember I stopped because March seemed to look even worse lol
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Post by FruityLlama on Mar 13, 2020 13:08:08 GMT
@astrokeen,
I agree that there are positives to be taken from working remotely if it comes to that. I am a big supporter of local industries, I try and buy things locally where I can and my family have always dabbled in growing our own veg and herbs. I'm currently starting out with herbs- trying to keep a basil plant alive at the moment but I'm not getting my hopes up after I accidentally killed a chilli plant before xmas...! Further, I don't want to kick off a political discussion, but this is also something I hope we will see in the UK after Brexit too. I think overall that less reliance on gloabalisation will be a good thing because as you said, things go belly-up when something like this pandemic happens and we realise how much we rely on international transportation of goods, to then also realise how difficult it is to continue trading when everyone is self-isolating. And of course, there is the environment to think about.
I just hope that in light of this age of technology, we will not end up isolating ourselves even more. I'm currently in isolation too by the way. I don't think I have got COVID-19 but my boss told me to stay away until next week. It's a bit frustrating because I'm 99.9% sure I haven't got it yet I can't go anywhere or do anything haha
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 20:17:51 GMT
FruityLlama, sorry to hear you're having to self-isolate. Hope all goes well.
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Post by anela on Mar 14, 2020 9:15:23 GMT
Does anyone have the US chart? Since we've talked about lunar returns, I'm wondering what this last one was for the country, and what the next one will be like.
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Post by LeeLoo on Mar 23, 2020 21:25:26 GMT
I made a Lenormand prediction when it started in China that a solution will be found in April/May Now it seems like a dream...but it's still March, who knows? haha Let's see!
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Post by lumina on Mar 24, 2020 9:26:53 GMT
LeeLooI also had April /may in my head, though I don't remember what led me to that date. Maybe the saturn/neptune mp moving on?
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Post by whisperix on Mar 26, 2020 12:46:14 GMT
When I heard it I had in my mind: " Everything is over after Easter" (=14. April)
My daughter said:" She has a feeling that it is over one week after Easter" (=21. April)
Sensitive people I know have the same date in mind like me.
fingers crossed that they really find the vaccine to this virus. <3
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Post by lumina on Mar 26, 2020 15:53:23 GMT
whisperix yes, that was the timeframe I sensed, too. somewhen around the weekend of the 18th/ 19th april (and the week leading up to it), something happens to improve the situation. But of course I am having an overimaginative mind. lol
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Post by whisperix on Mar 27, 2020 6:38:00 GMT
luminaFor me it is interesting to see, that the collective consciousness senses the same and I have never experienced a togetherness like this before. <3
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Post by minceymouse on Mar 28, 2020 8:12:31 GMT
Here in Indonesia, I think things somewhat normalize in 2 months, and get back to normal work in 3 months from now. End of June for most of SE Asia seems about right.
Travel and global economy: Travel is likely to be restricted for 2 months from now, too. Even at the 3 month mark, there is heightened vigilance to those travelling slightly ill (fever/stomach discomfort). Businesses restructure. People force more accountability from the government.
Mid-April stuff: Easter time is when there is a potential 'eureka' moment from synthesizing some of the old SARs/MERs research - new protocols to treat those affected with a good recovery rate (much more so than now). The meds found effective will be cheap and widely available (think vitamin c and something else which will be compounded). It is not the quinone derivative - relief to those who have autoimmune conditions and need it to live.
Second wave: Pockets of the disease exist, some will be contained, some will not. Second wave in the Northern hemisphere come autumn/winter time, strain maybe more deadly, but meds will be there and be recommended as soon as any symptoms come up.
Vaccination: Vaccination against this is 18 months away. By the time the vaccine is there, it will be 'mixed' with the annual flu vaccine. It wont be needed as much as it is now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 9:33:23 GMT
minceymouse , thanks. These sound positive on the whole. Are these intuitive? The mid-April breakthrough is being suggested by many including the Vedic prediction. India, unfortunately, has a crass prime-minister whose immediate lock-down with curfew didn't take into account millions of out of state migrant workers now jobless and who can't return to their homes. They are travelling to their villages on foot in desperation. More will die of hunger than from the disease.
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Post by minceymouse on Mar 28, 2020 10:55:26 GMT
@astrokeen - yes, intuitive.
Yes, I am aware of the situation.
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Post by Ava on Mar 30, 2020 14:27:29 GMT
India, unfortunately, has a crass prime-minister whose immediate lock-down with curfew didn't take into account millions of out of state migrant workers now jobless and who can't return to their homes. They are travelling to their villages on foot in desperation. More will die of hunger than from the disease. Oh no! I saw that something similar happened in China. Heartless. I feel we might get through an astrological bottleneck after mid-April...here, the natal-to-draconic comparison for April 14th shows a lot of tension between the luminaries and that tough Cap stellium. To me that looks like a crescendo: I think there will be another shock once the sun hits Uranus in late April, and then we get a break. By mid-May the sun moves into trine with Cap stellium and tr draconic Venus is conjunct tropical Neptune so there should be some relaxation and relief. This is all rudimentary guesswork but I trust the draconics and can't imagine mid-April being easy.
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Post by FruityLlama on Mar 30, 2020 17:34:03 GMT
Ava , That's really interesting, what do you suppose the natal to draconic tensions imply in this case, I mean taking into account what draconics are supposed to represent (which I don't fully understand yet actually). It's interesting that in both charts, there are clusters around the DSC. This makes me think because this pandemic will, if it hasnt already, most likely change the way we relate to each other. If there is anything to be drawn from this afterwards, perhaps its about appreciating more meaningful, solid aspects of ourselves (Capricorn) rather than the superficial (Libra)? Or perhaps the cardinal squares between the charts simply represent finding something to work with amid so much indecision and uncertainty! Such as volunteering, trying to make ourselves useful... I'm interested in those Venus squares too, plus the tense Venus-Mercury DW. Sorry for the rambling btw, I'm starting to appreciate draconics, but my tiny brain is taking tiny steps to understand it haha
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Post by lumina on Mar 30, 2020 21:26:26 GMT
Well for me, I`ve just had the weekend 18th/19th april in my head, "the week prior" is mostly wishful thinking on my part. lol But I just felt like something surrounding that weekend might bring some sort of "decision point". and of course hoping it will be the break through we all need. But I would never say I was having a psychic revelation or something, I guess it is just my hope and well it would be so fitting to have some resolution on time with Beltane.
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Post by Ava on Mar 31, 2020 3:02:45 GMT
^ That's a really volatile cusp in the Secret Language books, Aries/Taurus. FruityLlama, Draconic charts remain a mystery to me, too. I believe they show family patterns and certain things about fate. I think they can amplify and modulate the expression of tropical planets, especially when forming conjunctions. I trust draconic transits are useful in predictions. For instance, I figured Trump had a good chance of winning the presidency because the transiting draconic chart for election day had really striking same-planet conjunctions to his natal chart. The nodal axis shows where eclipses happen, the Aries Points (0° Aries NN/draconic) are considered portals, so taking both together it seems the draconic chart might encapsulate some of the potency and...magical timing (?)...of those natural phenomena. The chart I posted is the noon chart, my area, for a waning quarter moon day. That's already considered a crisis phase. So this quarter moon comes after the new moon conjunct Chiron and just before a new moon conjunct Uranus...seems like the lunations are connected with a theme of vulnerability. And here the last moon phase really picks up all the stress and drama from those Cap planets and seems to deal with them head-on. The natal-to-draco chart contains both a new and full moon, conjunction and opposition, but with the involvement of Jupiter-Pluto it just looks like our lesson is how to navigate life in the dark, let our inner lights shine -- sun's in Aries, exalted, and debatably above all.
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