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Post by lumina on Feb 13, 2020 11:34:06 GMT
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Post by lumina on Feb 13, 2020 11:48:55 GMT
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Post by lumina on Feb 13, 2020 12:03:02 GMT
of course there is more to progressed synastry than these (at least in my opinion), but it`s intriguing to look at.
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Post by lumina on Feb 13, 2020 14:50:58 GMT
my notes and thoughts: - according to Westran`s research the progressed Sun-Venus conjunction, trines and oppositions are the most frequent at the start of relationships, especially the trine "wins" - the opposition can be very magnetic at the onset of a relationship, however happening within a committed relationship frequently also being separative. - Westran also mentions the "agreeable nature" of Sun-Venus as reason for this. This however leads me to the following thought and conclusion: Sun and Venus esp. in conjunction or trine tend to easily agree and find a compromise; there is also sympathy. Howeer it does not always necessarily lead to relationships. In fact sometimes we find Sun-Venus-trines also at the time of breaking up or divorce, but then usually signaling the two parties coming to an easy agreement about it (Westran mentions that also in his book at some point). Sometimes Sun-Venus-trine might have to little "oomph" to make a relationship physical, though the Sun-factor could work in favour here, but yes, there is sympathy, affection, harmony, and (romantic) attraction (not necessarily physical though, but sometimes this overlaps). And yes it seems that those aspects are a good predictor for relationships - Sun-Venus-square in progressed synastry tends to keep people apart, or time the break up of a relationship, or sometimes you keep on fighting for it during its duration (against windmills it seems), and then if it fades and nothing else is there, everything just fizzles out. But well Westran clearly states that this denotes people being kept apart due to "external circumstances". (btw my parents met and got together during a Venus-Sun-square in the progressions. - but they had a mass of Venus-Mars-progressed aspects as well). - also according to Westran, women ing eneral seem to have a preference for Sun-Venus, while men seem to prefer Venus-Mars. Well gotta catch my bus, will share some more thoughts later.
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Post by lumina on Feb 13, 2020 18:28:35 GMT
- Venus-Mars-conjunctions and especially trines seem to happen quite frequently too, and also the oppositions, which could be either really magnetic/ passionate or separative (they seem to be more separative if occuring in the individual progressions, while making for a strong, though somewhat challenging attraction between people. - Venus-Mars-square in progressions seems to be really sucking. You would think that possibly this would be an extra passionate aspect, and in some way I guess it is, bringing a lot of Drama. But according to Westran it often occurs at break ups (I also think that sometimes if you got used to the quare and it fades, it might be what fuels the break up, as it feels like with the drama also all attraction is waning, if you`ve gotten used to equate Drama wwith passion). - anyway, just my thoughts, Westrans research sais that while the Sun-Venus-square often signifies being kept apart by circumstances and at a distance, the Venus-Mars-square is more volatile, more like a real blow up, and involves some person`s active choice and in most cases brings up a third party situation, that then will push the break up or rejection. - Venus-Venus-conjunctions, trines and oppositions seem to be really sweet romantic and lovely contacts. The only problem is that if they are the ONLY contacts, people might adore each other endlessly without ever acting on it. It is always helpful to have some (positive) Mars aspects, getting into a relationship is an active act. - sextiles and quintiles seem to show up, too (at least between Sun-Venus), but with a lot less frequency, and esp. the sextile might be more an aspect of "opportunity", of socializing, meeting in a social setting, getting along and being supportive and somehow maybe "sliding" into a relationship, if it happens (and if there is no stronger syanstry with someone else around ). It is a friendly aspect but not one that shows up a lot in the study. (Funny enough, when I was attending the first fanmeeting, and that was prepared a few months before, and was just me somehow sliding into meeting P more in social situations, actually his pr Venus WAS sextile to my n Sun. Interestingly it went out of orb right around the time I attended the first workshop. HOwever, apparently we still and even more so than before, are meeting in social settings.) - quintiles did show up quite a bit, esp. if there were no Sun-Venus trines, conjunctions or oppositions. But I think that is not surprising. Westran had a lot of actors/ actresses/ entertainers/ writers in his study, and quintile is said to be an aspect of creativity, so it wouldn`t surprise me if creative people are especially receptive to these. They also are mentioned in the synastry readings/ analysis on Westrans site. Just had one for me and P and noticed that we are in a "Venus-Neptune-quintile-phase" at the moment. my pr Venus quintile his natal and also pr Neptune "The quintile aspect bears the qualities of creativity and utility. It is rather more beneficial in relationships than some other connections, but in the case of Venus and Neptune it creates a fertile well of imagination. While this can be a good thing in a relationship when channeled well, it can occasionally make you feel like you are in love without having spent a great deal of time with the object of your affection. This is not a criticism, but an observation." Interestingly there was his pr Venus square my natal and pr Neptune, which has lasted from beginning of 2014 until the end of july 2018. It was still within 2 degree orb, albeit almost gone, during that fanmeeting, that I basically organized unintentionally,b ringing up this charity-auction, and it was out of orb by the time in august he asked me to have coffee with him. We exchanged the progressed Venus-Neptune square for a Venus-Neptune-quintile and a Venus-Saturn-trine. Well of course Venus-Neptune is not part of the research (Sun, Venus, Mars), but I still found it significant in this particular case. But well just as an example for quintiles and sextiles (we also, when we started to interact more and in pretty bizarre ways. lol, were having a slew of progressed Sun-Venus-quintiles along with the sextile; I do miss the Sun-Venus-quintile-energy sometimes. VEry easygoing, funny, spontaneous, playful, albeit of course not really serious or deeply involved in any way. Still so much fun!)
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Post by lumina on Feb 13, 2020 18:29:11 GMT
Hmm what else. well we have to talk about Moon, especially progressed Moon obviously. Later.
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Post by lumina on Feb 13, 2020 18:40:16 GMT
well according to our collision graph for quintiles, they might be back eventually (Interesting there seems to be a lot starting/ culminating/ coinciding in 2023, - which is interesting, as the year has come up during other check-ups, other methods)
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Post by anela on Feb 13, 2020 21:10:17 GMT
I saw that at the other place. It worked for me, when it came to interest being shown, and someone else's progressed Venus and Sun being conjunct my planets (S). His p Venus conjunct my Sun, his p Sun conjunct my Moon/Venus. I posted my parent's links over there. We have nothing in play now, and nothing is happening.
*edit. Oh, I get it now. In declinations with S, nothing happens after this year. Wait, Sun-Venus happens in five years. Venus-Mars early this year. The other chart confirms my thoughts that if anything was going to happen - really happen - it would have over a decade ago, if I hadn't been too shy to get to know him right away. There were the conjunctions that I've already mentioned. Venus-Venus apparently happened when we weren't speaking.
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Post by anela on Feb 13, 2020 21:23:16 GMT
Interesting. I just tested it with a male friend (not romantic), that I don't speak with so much now. I don't know who is blue and who is green, but when we had the most contact, Venus and Mars were apparently opposed (both progressed). Natal Venus and a progressed Sun appear to be moving close to an exact trine. That will apparently happen this year, then nothing. In declinations, Venus/Mars will be close together in two years, and Venus signs were aspected before we knew each other, and the Sun and Venus move further away.
I just gave this a quick look when it was posted elsewhere. I might try it with other people.
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Post by lumina on Feb 14, 2020 14:04:39 GMT
anelaIt`s an impressive statistical research Westran did. However, I think it is still statistic, very convincing as a whole, but there might be exceptions to the rule individually. Personally I think that probably the pr Moon will play a role (for sure in aspect to the luminaries and crossing an angle) as well as the conjunction to natal angles and the individual relationship planet markers (mostly planets on the DESC, and ruler of DESC). BTW yes I saw it at LL, Mir is one of the rather rare competent astrologers over there now (along with Kannon as far as I can tell - I may not agree with them about some things, but they are consistent and they make sense to me most of the time). I left westrans fb group, cause I am not in the mood for any even just faint trace of dogmatism at the moment. Anyway back to the topic. The calculator includes declinational aspects which have not been part of Westran`s research, however they do seem to make sense. I just wonder if 1 degree is maybe too wide, just as I like to keep the progressed orb to 1 degree. I understand why Westran did it in his research study, but even he pointed out that the most intense exchange really happens closer to the peak. I would probably opt for half a degree for declinations as most, also cause they move far slower than planets in longitude, and esp. if you ahve planets near the tropics, like I have, you will have progressions going on for decades, even if tehy show "just" an orb of 1 degree or so. The 2 degree orb for aspects in longitudes (progressions) seems to hold somewhat though, as incoming energy, starting slow and developing intensity when getting closer to exactness. Like a faint echo getting louder as time goes by and then fading out again. At 2 degrees it is more like a "hunch" of what *might* be coming, instead of a real tangible manifestation though. At least that is my take on it. Also the calculator uses other aspects like quinkunxes, which Westran rejected as meaningful, he gave a good explanation, but I am not good enough to repeat it. has to do with how researches work. I read in another book that quinkunxes were often operative (at very small orb) at times of separations/ breakups and also in death charts. Definitely when something changes and there has to be an adjustment made.
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Post by lumina on Feb 14, 2020 14:06:27 GMT
anela also about your example, it seems to me that, contrary to Westran`s conclusion, Venus-Mars-progressions are stronger, or just leading to more action maybe. (and btw Sun-Mars-progressions seem to also be helpful, though they are not romantic in themselves, if there are romance aspects there, they seem to be helpful in getting things off the ground properly)
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Post by lumina on Feb 14, 2020 14:34:56 GMT
I was checking some relationships with the calculator (so did not take anything else into account).
Starting with my parents and the first 20 years of their marriage.
They met in 1972, got married in 1974 and had me at the end of the year, my brothers were born in 1977 and 1983.
When they met in 1972 there was p Venus (my Dad) square n Sun (my Mom) this square had peaked in 1972, and started separating after they met and then reapplying to have another peak in 1981, and it was in orb until 1988.
so it was a very long lasting square (due to my Dad`s Venus becoming retro or direct or both).
I have a vague hypothesis that the longer lasting progressions have a slower building up, while the shorter ones might feel - temporarily - more urgent somehow.
Anyway they were also having
n Mars conjunct p Venus, which peaked in 1974, so when they got married and had their first child.
also
p Venus parallel n Sun, starting in 1972 and lasting for a long time, over 20 years (not sure when or if it ended). peak in 1981
this parallel was under half a degree from 1977 - 1983/1984 - interestingly the beginning marking the birth of my eldest brother and the end occuring when my youngest brother was being born.
n Mars parallel p Venus was also on from 1972 - 1973 (but it never came into 0,5 degree orb).
I do wonder, while the Sun-Venus-square *should* have kept them apart, this apparently did not happen, was it because of the simultaneous Mars-Venus-conjunction or the strong parallel aspect happening at the same time?
Also my Dad had pr Venus conjunct pr Mercury partile, and pr Venus being parallel pr Sun within 13 minutes of orb.
other aspects I noted p Mars conjunct p Venus: 1974 - 1977 (starting with the marriage and my birthyear and ending with my middle brother being born)
n Venus trine p Venus: 1977 - 1980 (taking over from the Mars-Venus-progression)
p Sun parallel p Venus: 1986 - 1988
I guess there was quite a bit support to balance out the Venus-Sun-square.
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Post by lumina on Feb 14, 2020 22:31:54 GMT
my brother and his wife
n Mars cp p Venus: 2005 fading out
nVenus quintile pVenus: 2007 - 2011 (peak: end 2008: hot phase: 2007 - 2008)
pVenus cp n Mars: 2008 - 2013 (peak: 2011)
pVenus conjunct n Mars: 2010 - 2012 (peak: mid 2011: "hot" phase: 2010 - 2011)
pVenus cp pMars: 2010 - 2016 (peak: 2013)
pMoon square pMoon: 2011 - 2012 (peak: end 2011)
n Mars p p Venus: 2011 - 2015 (peak: 2013)
pVenus conjunct n Venus: end 2015 - end 2018 (peak: 2017: hot phase: 2016 - 2017)
n Venus sextile p Mars: mid 2015 - mid 2020 (peak: late 2017; hot phase: late 2016-2017)
nMars opposite pVenus: 2016 - 2019 (peak: early 2018: hot phase: 2017)
n Venus p pVenus: mid 2016 - 2021 (peak: late 2018)
pMars opposite pVenus: 2017 - 2020 (peak: 2018: hot phase: late 2017 - 2018)
nSun sextile p Venus: 2017 - 2020 (peak: end 2018; hot phase: 2016-2017)
n Sun cp pVenus: 2018 - 2022 (peak: late 2020)
n DESC opposite pSun: end 2023 and into the future
n Venus square pVenus: 2024 - future (peak: 2024)
EDIT My brother and his wife met in 2005 as coworkers and had common friends. They were sort of friends/ aquaintances before, though my sister in law was giving him a hard time, because apparently my brother had hooked up with one of her friends before, but without intention of getting into a committed relationship,a nd my sister in law got back to him for that on behalf of her friend. My mother pointed out to my brother that obviously his now-wife was interested in him and therefore reacted so "irrationally". Somehow this never had even crossed his mind. They got together, but then after a few month my brother broke up with her cause there was "too much drama" and it was too distracting and exhausting. He had not expected to suffer that much by being separated from her though (usually he was always the one cutting short relationships/ friendships very casually and easygoing). They got back together after a month or two. lol That was in 2006.
They eventually moved in together in about 2011 I think, when there were some progressions peaking.
But the most meaningful phase in their relationship obviously was when they welcomed their first born in august 2016, got married in august 2017 and had their second born in august 2019. in between also moving into their houses (well it is actually my parent`s but they bought it and renovated it so my brother and his family had a real house with garden to live in, in a more peaceful environment than where they were living before, for the sake of the children mostly).
In those years from 2016 - 2019 there were quite some progressions "on" and some even close to their peak or in their hot phase.
pVenus conjunct n Venus and n Venus parallel p Venus: interestingly they have always been a little argumentative with each other BEFORE the kids were born, but when they had kids they suddenly became very harmonious/ agreeable (though they do have different perspectives still) and they become more demonstrative and publicly affectionate. It just struck me at some point that they seemed more in love with each other than they appeared to be in the initial phase of their relationship. I thought this was just unusual, as most couples start out with this in love stuff, and then somehow settle into a routine, and while they did settle into a routine as well, the more they did, the more they seemed to feel secure enough to express their affections for one another. But that is exactly what a Venus-Venus-progression probably is about.
n Venus sextile p Mars
n and p Mars opposite p Venus
n Sun sextile p Venus
Well it makes sense, what surprised me was that there was just little to indicate their getting together. The Mars-Venus-contraparallel faded out when they met. The nice Venus-Venus-quintile (yeah, there was an unusual quality to their beginning) kicked in a year after they got together.
I do believe that in this instance something else was in play, that was not researched, but that I believe to be of tremendous importance, and apparently Mir at LL believes the same. Usually the progressed lunar cycle plays a crucial role. the 4th harmonic aspects in particular of pr Moon to Sun (not sure if pr or natal is stronger) describe that major changes manifest in our lives. Possibly the sesisquare or semiquare might play a role too (they are part of the lunar cycle too, the crescent, gibbuous, dissemenating and balsamic Moon phase is when the Moon is semisquare or sesisquare the Sun); however obviously new Moon, fullmoon and quarter Moon are more in our face.
The trines and sextiles do not play a major role in those big changes; however I believe that they have a consolidating nature. There is a smooth gradual development and consolidation of the changes of before (which can be abrupt) happening, and they can feel so wonderfully comfortable. aT least I experienced it like this. speaking of the trine.
Beyond that especially the crossing of an angle,e sp. of pr Moon, brings changes, often a statuschange, or the beginning or ending of a relationship. Other planets crossing an angle will be important too It hink.
And then there is the progressed Moon in aspect to SAturn, esp. 4th harmonic. Big changers, or developmental forces.
Those play a role in the individual charts of course (an possibly also in synastry), but I believe that if the strong progressed synastry is accompanied by those big life changers in our individual progressions (so mostly the luminaries and the angles, though there are some other important cycles too, that can be checked on the positive astrology website, as new addition), then a possible relationship or friendship becomes really a life changing event.
If we do not have those life changing individual progressions, then those relationship might not feel just as deep possibly. (speaking generally, of course there might be exceptions, but in a way if we are not prepared or ready to let a relationship happen and touch us and change our lives, then it won`t happen, or it will maybe be a tad more superficial than the pr synastry might indicated. But if both coincide, then probably that is when marriage-decisions could be made or something like that. lol)
my brother and his wife have both strong Solunar aspects. My sister in law has the opposition, with her Sun on my brother`s ASC and her Moon on his DESC. My brother has Sun squaring Moon (and Jupiter and Uranus in Sag) with his Moon conjunct her SN and Uranus.
When they officially got together (The second time), my brother was just 7 months past a fullmoon between pr Sun in Aries nad pr Moon in Libra. And his pr Moon was applying to oppose her pr Sun which was exact 2-3 months later. and her pr Moon was applying to square his pr Sun within a month from their getting together. (she had a progressed quarter Moon a few months after them getting together).
Because of that their progressed composite had an applying sesisquare of Sun and Moon (exact about 1-2 months after them getting together).
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Post by Ava on Feb 16, 2020 15:15:16 GMT
^ lumina I think that belongs on the other thread... As for the topic at hand, when I checked these charts, I saw that so far, the progressed synastry has not become exact coinciding with any major events, aside from my ex's progressed Venus conjunct my natal Venus.
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Post by lumina on Feb 16, 2020 15:53:13 GMT
Ava thank you. Yes I meant to delete it but then had to be somewhere else. So far the progressed synastry seems to work (in most cases), but only if declinational aspects are also valid, which they seem to be in a surprising way. And while frequently we see action when the aspects getting close to exactness, this does not seem to be always the case. Sometimes stuff happens when they come into orb, too. Maybe they need to be triggered by transits like solar arc theory sais. And beyon what was researched here (Sun, Venus, Mars), I wouldn`t dismiss the other progressions including personal planets to outers either. Especially if there is a mirroring with the natal going on. Like in your case with the Venus-Neptune. In fact personally (though I have not researched it) I find this to be extremely important maybe more so than just some isolated Sun-Venus-trine (though if you look closely, they usually do not come as isolated events ). BTW Paul Westran repeated the research last year, and basically the same results came up (the opposition a little bit stronger than before I think, but all in a reasonable frame). That is rather impressive. Often enough the results of researches cannot be replicated, but in this instance it happened again, so makes me think he really has a strong case going on here (even though we are talking about statistics, of course there will be individual derivances of this. personal preferences playing into etc. Still on a general level as general markers those are quite amazing. Never seen any comparable study being so convicing about astrology to be honest).
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Post by lumina on Feb 16, 2020 16:31:40 GMT
Another example would be P and his former girlfriend; they got together in 2005 and broke up by 2012.
They met under a separating pMars-pVenus opposition, but it was on its way out, when they got together, but possibly was still experienced, yet I find that not to be so convincing.
There was also a separating pVenus-nVenus conjunction, on its way out, basically at the extreme 2 degree orb. But who knows? Maybe the effect was still there at least in those first weeks when they met?
There was also pVenus parallel n Sun, which was not exact and was separating, but still in orb, and was fading out about 6 - 9 months later.
There was also pVenus parallel nVenus still operative, and fading out about a year later in mid 2006.
There also was or is a very long lasting nVenus- - p Mars parallel. In fact it is still going on and into the future. Unlike other aspects it has a very low and drawn out curve; I don´t know if I am right about that, but there is a slight hypothesis forming, that in those cases these very lasting aspects sort of become like an underground cushion, they are so long lasting, they seem to be always there, and maybe you just get used to this kind of thing.
Interestingly this one became exact exactly at the time they were being put on stage together again, after 2 - 3 years of no contact whatsoever. there is no personal contact there either, but they do have a great chemistry on stage. This parallel might have been experienced stronger in the beginning despite a wider orb (because it was "new") and then they got used to it, and if parallels work they had some really good aspects going on, even though they were fading away not too long into their relationship (a few months to a year later). Obvously the Mars-Venus-parallels was working well enough. (this is not within the parameters of the research but there was an exact conjunction of his pVenus to her n Jupiter when they met, and well he is a Sag, and his DESC-ruler is in Sag, square Jupiter, so he might have liked that).
This is not drawn into this calculator here (but you can check it on positive astrology.com), but they were having a quintile between PMars and pVenus (and actually have pVenus quintile n Venus now, from end of 2019 until end of 2021).
They are both artists after all, and in the beginning the pMars-pVenus-quintile along with the fact they were "playing" a couple passionately in love might have been really fun.
They are also having pSun sextile n Venus, as a long drawn out aspect, starting in late 2016 and into the future (the beginning marked when they were casted together to play a married, though estranged married couple on stage), and will have pVenus sextile pSun from end 2020 until end 2023. well progressions are just windows of opportunities of course.
Anyway and then there was
nSun square pVenus from 2011-2014, with the peak in mid 2012. and pVenus square nMars from 2009 - 2012 with the peak in mid-late 2011.
Well the Sun-Venus square obviously brings difficult situations, albeit not always being a separative aspect per se; the Venus-Mars-square, according to Westran is much harder to traverse (also cause he often brings 3rd parties, just generally other people, or one partner making choices that bring distance,a nd usually this is more of a blow or break than the Sun-Venus-square, which relates more to external circumstances keeping people apart or difficult situations, not necessarily a lack of sympathy).
WEll I find it interesting that obviously his pVenus was also square MY n Mars, which had its peak on december 2011/ january 2012, and I was LITERALLY turning my back on him on 31st december/ 1st january, and deciding to stay away, which I did for almost 9 months. And it only vaguely dawned on my 2 years ago, that possibly he might have actually experienced it as rejection. (though I can be wrong about that of course, and it might not have mattered that much. Well that week his pr Moon was also conjunct his pr Vensu in Pisces, and both squaring my n Mars - yeah I guess I was the bad one here).
As for him and his former girlfriend, those two squares happened just TOO close to each other, intersecting especially (with different orbs) from 2011-2012 (with nothing else really to back them up, except the long drawn out Venus-Mars-parallel), and that was the exact time frame their separation took place. Not at the peak necessarily, but when both aspects aligned with each other.
That is downright creepy in its accuracy.
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Post by lumina on Feb 20, 2020 9:21:14 GMT
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Post by lumina on Feb 20, 2020 19:57:18 GMT
Other relevant aspects (Sun, Venus, Mars) were are will be: in the past: nVenus trine pSun: peak was right the month I saw him as Lancelot. LOL pSun square pVenus: went out of orb the same month, just when it was falling away I was seeing him on stage. Even though there was no relationship before, this one LITERALLY described having been "separated", and when it fell away, he was able to impress me, while mourning his unrequited love and dieing heroically to save his friend and make amends for betraying him. lol pVenus sextile p Venus - this one seems to be for life, nice and friendly pMars sextile pVenus - this one came into orb in june 2017. Just after he obviously had seen me/ taken notice of me, waiting around rather bored, while my friends were all getting their autographs; we met in september of that year, when I accompanied my aquaintance to a workshop with him, and obviously was also spending time with him and talking to him. That was very fitting. Those progressions and their timing matches. coming up: pVenus trine n Venus: coming in end of this year and lasting until end of 2023; peak: in autumn 2022 - since the degree before the peak seems to herald the most intense phase of any aspect (according to Westran and I can agree with that so far), that would probably point to 2022 being most important pMars trine nVenus: 2021- 2026: peak: end of 2023 pVenus trine pMars: autumn 2025 - sprin 2034: peak: end 29 (boy, that is quite a long one) pVenus sextile pVenus: still going on, slowly approaching exactness pMars sextile pVenus: also still going on until mid 2025; peak: mid 2021 (so far my mind makes a note of 2021-2022. lol) nVenus sextile pMars: coming in mid 2025 (so taking over from the other Venus-Mars-sextile. lol): until sprin 2031; peak: mid 2028 pSun conjunct nDESC: mid 26 - mid 30: peak: mid 28 nVenus conjunct pVenus: mid 27 - mid 30: peak: beginning 29 no more squares, at least not until 2035. LOL have not checked further into the future. I mean those are 15 years until then already! and nope that is not "the usual", that is pretty wild actually. WE have pretty much everything in terms of relationship markers come up that Paul Westran found to be of primary importance: Along with a few sextiles, that he found to be pretty nice as well. And no squares to watch out for anymore. like we already have overcome that sort of hurdle before even really meeting. lol (I had seen him before once or twice on stage, but well, no real interest in meeting him. it just happened somehow, without me having the intention to) What I find interesting is that, unlike with P, there are no quintiles here (and no oppositions either. ). I like quintiles though. Apparently according to the study they are pretty important too (at least Sun-Venus-quintiles), though I have actually seen two cases, randomly, did not search for them, where the marriage and birth of the children was pretty muchg exactly timed to the duration of a progressed Venus-Mars-quintile. Not saying that this is always the case, but it made me smile, about how literal those things sometimes can be, after all quintiles are about creating. LOL of course might still be just a coincidence. I just payed attention cause the invovled planets fit, it was the same aspect in both cases, and it covered the exact timespan. so it was interesting. Anyway statistics are one thing of course. Well I have pretty cool progressed synastry with Jude Law, too. okay with more Venus-Mars and Sun-Venus-squares strewn in, but I doubt I am ever going to have a relationship with him. Never mind he is married anyway. Well but what I could imagine is that possibly the peaks of the nice aspects might herald opportunities to see him on stage again. Hopefully. Worked wonderfully in 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2017. well if that is a sequence, 2021 will be our year! LOL Never mind, but as for Lancelot, just observing this is pretty outstanding progressed synastry, and was hilarious to check. Also it just strikes me that with him as well as with P the progressed synastry actually seems to get stronger over the passing time. How strange!
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Post by Ava on Feb 21, 2020 2:44:05 GMT
lumina, I'm glad you are finding a lot of meaning in these, I don't know why I can't seem to focus on them. I guess they are too scientific for my mood. I think I've never seen you talk so much about one topic (not that I recall), but I can't have that same enthusiasm, because my original searches didn't turn up anything. Nothing spectacular, I guess I should say. Maybe because my sun aspects Venus and Mars (novile, quincunx respectively), the energy is less noticeable with me. I mean a square to my Mars is a trine to my sun, and so on. Maybe I will have more interest later, if there is maybe a new artificial crush on a coworker (doubtful...my Pisces ex-boss is still the only one I have an artificial crush on. Today I said hi to him and he said "How's it going?" <3 But he didn't turn around to see who said hi to him. Does a Pisces even need to? So psychic.) Wait, actually I'm checking this with him...yeah, doesn't it figure, there's nothing.
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Post by lumina on Feb 21, 2020 6:50:13 GMT
Ava just lost a long reply to you - Mercury retro, hu? to make it short: check the collison graphs and the synastry reports on this site positiveastrology.org/signup_login.phpyou have to register but it`s free. and keep especially an eye on the sextiles and quintiles in the collison graphs and in the synastry report if there are progressed aspects of Venus-Uranus, Venus-Neptune or even Venus-Mercury in crush scenarios.
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