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Post by lumina on Dec 21, 2020 19:23:50 GMT
Solstice, sun into 00 Capricorn
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Post by LeeLoo on Dec 21, 2020 19:43:01 GMT
One can also see the Jupiter Moons
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Post by lumina on Dec 21, 2020 19:58:48 GMT
Wow LeeLoo , it is so sad it has been raining all day here, but even on that video that is just HUGELY impressive.
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Post by LeeLoo on Dec 21, 2020 20:28:02 GMT
Indeed! Here too, it's been cloudy for almost two weeks ugh Even the non-depressive are disoriented at this point. Europe seems unlucky in seeing the great conjunction. I use Skymap android app, which shows me which astrobodies are there when I point my mobile camera to the sky. I know it's there, but I can't see it I consider it a major marker for Aqua Era: (note the lyrics of the song)
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Post by glaucus on Dec 21, 2020 23:02:37 GMT
There is actually a conjunction of Jupiter, Saturn, and asteroid proto-planet Pallas in Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude)
noon
Dec 21, 2020
here in Tacoma, Washington
Pallas 302°22' 20hr09m26s Saturn 302°47' 20hr11m07s Jupiter 302°49' 20hr11m15s
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Post by vg on Dec 21, 2020 23:17:45 GMT
I had forgotten about this conjunction happening. There is a very new beginning aspect to it for me so far anyway....We've moved all our stuff into our new place and settling in. I met our elderly neighbour yesterday evening...i never knew my neighbours in my last place. Im in a bigger place but its more expensive. The conjunction is occurring towards the end of my 3rd house squaring my natal pluto and saturn. Its happening my solar return 4th house conj the ic.
I had a dream last night featuring my youngest. We were walking through a door (from inside to outside), a man was fitting a light bulb above the door and standing on the pram to balance himself. Other things happened but I'll maybe talk about it in another thread. It's occuring in her 12th house. Not many people have seen her in waking life there are people i dont even think are aware of her because of covid we've been locked away. But i think and hope soon we will see people again.
Sorry for all the ramblings. I just thought it's nice the way things link.
Pls dnt quote
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Post by glaucus on Dec 22, 2020 0:21:04 GMT
Pallas is one of the first four asteroids discovered along with Ceres, Vesta, and Juno. They used to be classed as planets before astronomers realized that they weren't. Pallas is named after Pallas Athena, the Greek Goddess of Wisdom and Warfare. She was also into arts like Weaving. In mythology, she had a weaving contest against Arachne. Asteroid astrologers give creative intelligence and pattern recognition as some of the things that they connect with Pallas. A protoplanet is a large planetary embryo that originated within a protoplanetary disc and has undergone internal melting to produce a differentiated interior. Protoplanets are thought to form out of kilometer-sized planetesimals that gravitationally perturb each other's orbits and collide, gradually coalescing into the dominant planets. In the inner Solar System, the three protoplanets to survive more-or-less intact are the asteroids Ceres, Pallas, and Vesta. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtoplanetThese are the largest asteroids. Ceres is the only asteroid that is classed as dwarf planet along with the transneptunian objects Pluto, Eris, Makemake, and Haumea.
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Post by glaucus on Dec 22, 2020 5:56:41 GMT
This makes me wonder if Pallas-Jupiter-Saturn conjunction reflects the political voting issues here in USA She was going over Pallas-Jupiter-Pluto. demetra-george.com/blog/pallas-voting-rights-amidst-pandemics/Asteroid Pallas was the second of the asteroids discovered, coming after asteroid Ceres the mother. Pallas is the maiden, named after Pallas Athena, goddess of wisdom, courage, just warfare, strategy and skill. Modern astrologers have linked her to these things but also creative intelligence, political nous, pattern recognition and the relationship between father and daughter. Like her modern day manifestation Wonder Woman her father was Zeus. She is “a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman. She is as “beautiful as Aphrodite, wise as Athena, stronger than Hercules, and swifter than Hermes.” [1] astrologyking.com/asteroid-pallas/Pallas was discovered when Jupiter and Saturn were in conjunction.
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Post by LeeLoo on Dec 22, 2020 7:06:55 GMT
What are your opinions of moving from a predominance of Capricorn energy to Aquarius energy with this conjunction? To me, it's about the Age of Aquarius, specifically at high level, political, and on a large scale. Saturn and Jupiter are father and son, and Saturn is a bridge between Capricorn and Aquarius, as double ruler of both. Saturn, the Elder, will have to embrace and pass on Aqua values to the next generation, and there is an exchange between generations that should be more enlightened (illuministic), with creating structures and rules that support Aqua values on an official, larger scale. One good example is the appointees of Joe Biden in the US (all ethnicities, gender orientations, first Asian-African, first Native American etc) which already looks Aqua. Biden, an Elder (Sun trine Jupiter, interestingly, Uranus Saturn angular conjunction, opp Sun) . We will have some futuristic seniors I also expect, with this conjunction, some major scientific discovery/technology that impacts the human race, such as one about the space (life on another planet, or habitable planets) and offers us a glimpse of the future. Major space travel, robotics breakthroughs. One day before the conjunction became exact, I read about the first robot dogs guarding Florida military bases in January Of course, the path ahead is long, and this is just another beginning, so some clashes between conservative and progressive are still to be expected, but the path ahead is more and more Aqua values rulers, and more inter-nation pacts at high level serving Aqua values. This is a globalist conjunction. These discoveries will most likely challenge and eventually replace old (Pisces Age) spirituality (the mosaic religions, and religions in general). New generations will likely develop and activate some different brain patterns/functions (telepathy, multi-thinking as influenced by computers and the internet, astral travel etc). earthsky.org/human-world/when-will-the-age-of-aquarius-begin"Traditionally, Aquarius is associated with electricity, computers, flight, democracy, freedom, humanitarianism, idealism, modernization, astrology, nervous disorders, rebellion, nonconformity, philanthropy, veracity, perseverance, humanity, and irresolution.[6][7]" Wiki
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Post by LeeLoo on Dec 22, 2020 7:09:59 GMT
Pallas is one of the first four asteroids discovered along with Ceres, Vesta, and Juno. They used to be classed as planets before astronomers realized that they weren't. Pallas is named after Pallas Athena, the Greek Goddess of Wisdom and Warfare. She was also into arts like Weaving. In mythology, she had a weaving contest against Arachne. Asteroid astrologers give creative intelligence and pattern recognition as some of the things that they connect with Pallas. A protoplanet is a large planetary embryo that originated within a protoplanetary disc and has undergone internal melting to produce a differentiated interior. Protoplanets are thought to form out of kilometer-sized planetesimals that gravitationally perturb each other's orbits and collide, gradually coalescing into the dominant planets. In the inner Solar System, the three protoplanets to survive more-or-less intact are the asteroids Ceres, Pallas, and Vesta. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtoplanetThese are the largest asteroids. Ceres is the only asteroid that is classed as dwarf planet along with the transneptunian objects Pluto, Eris, Makemake, and Haumea. I love this, that Pallas joins this conjunction, thank you for noting it. Pallas the Weaver, new patterns of thought and new info about the fabric of the Universe, most likely. (one can see I have Pallas conj ASC )
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Post by LeeLoo on Dec 22, 2020 8:21:28 GMT
What does it do in your charts, btw?
For me, the most notable is an exact trine to Libra Mars 0.30, part of Mars Pluto (6) Mercury (11) stellium (8th house).
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Post by lumina on Dec 22, 2020 9:44:10 GMT
That`s very interesting about PALLAS glaucus . I saw that it was part of the conjunction, but did not know it was discovered during a Great conjunction, too. That seems pretty significant. For me I am going to have a Pallas Return in some days I suppose, unless Pallas turns retrograde (my natal Pallas is on 9 Aqua, in a minor triangle with Pluto on 9 Libra and Neptune on 9 Sag).
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Post by lumina on Dec 22, 2020 11:53:08 GMT
LeeLoo that sounds encouraging and energetic the trine to your Mars. Well I agree with your asessment of the Great conjunction, and especially find it encouraging to see it on 00 Aquarius, along with Pallas there and also on the solstice. However that Mars-Pluto-square is a source of at least mild concern to me. I guess this might relate to the conflicts and struggle to fight for that progressive new beginning to happen in a constructive way. Also the dispositor, Uranus, is in Taurus and will have some on and off squares to SAturn over the years, so this first year of the great conjunction might see some tug-of-war between the old and the new, of course squares also give a chance to invest the necessary energy to make real change happen. But as far as I see it there will be real clashes between collective and individual forces, it seems. I am in particular curious about the second half of January, when Tr Mars, Tr Jupiter, Tr Uranus and with a bit of orb Tr Saturn will be in 4beth harmonic aspects, at some point the transiting Sun will be there too of course. Let`s take the fullmoon of 28th january as an example Moon: 09°05 Leo Sun: 09°05 Aqua Jupiter 09°18 Aqua Saturn: 04°54 Aqua Uranus 6°49 Taurus Mars 10°51 Taurus Of course the orbs are not exact, but it is a fullmoon, and it is an interesting line up. Fortunately Tr Mars is not entering the square while the Tr Saturn-Uranus is closer. However in the beginning of July, this will happen with Tr Mars on 12 Leo, Tr Saturn on 12 Aqua and Tr Uranus on 13 Taurus, and actually Tr Venus will be conjunct Tr Mars a few days after that. At least it is not partile, one of the participants is always taking their distance a little bit. But well possibly those are timeframes to look out for in the next year. and of course also with the exact hits of the SAturn-Uranus-squares taking place. Still, personally, even though this mights till pose its challenges, I like the sense of Saturn-Uranus more than the sense of Saturn-Pluto. Just my personal prefernce and of course I might be proven wrong. On a personal level I found it sort of weird, but the angles of the Great conjunction as it took place here where I live, replicates my Solar Return angles (with a difference of 1-2 degrees), and my Solar Return Moon is on 2 Aquarius, so had just been starting to separate from the Jupiter-Saturn-conjunction, which at that point had not yet been exact, but already partile, with Jupiter on 29 Cap still, and Saturn into 00 Aquarius. I really like that. That Saturn, as dispositor of Jupiter, was already in Aqua at my SR. actually just 2 minutes into Aqua. lol There are still challenged tied to this of course, and just started my decades of Tr Saturn squaring pr Moon, but I suppose since this will be on and off for the next 20 years or so. lol I just gotta get used to it. For now it looks like this my pr Moon 00 Scorpio my n Uranus 01 scorpio my pr Uranus 02 Scorpio my SR Moon 02 Aqua Tr Jupiter-Saturn 00 Aqua
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Post by lumina on Dec 22, 2020 11:58:34 GMT
I am also concerned on a personal level, actually because the Mars-Pluto-square is part of my Solar Return, and I am having an applying Mars-Pluto-square in my progressed chart. In my natal Mars is widely (4 degrees) sextile Pluto.
my natal Mars is also tied to the SR MC (3 degrees), natal Pluto is trine the SR ASC, which actually sits right on my natal Pallas. (well I know this thread is not about me, but I find it interesting that my Sag-Stellium of Mars, ASC, Neptune, NN from 5-10 Sag, falls near to the SR MC on 8 Sag, and SR Venus on 2 Sag is conjunct natal Mars by 3 degrees).
But anyway this here is not about me. just mentioned it cause I am wondering about this.
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Post by Ava on Dec 22, 2020 12:19:13 GMT
That`s very interesting about PALLAS glaucus . I saw that it was part of the conjunction, but did not know it was discovered during a Great conjunction, too. That seems pretty significant. Yes, thank you glaucus. I had no idea. Here's a list of the conjunctions www.astropro.com/features/tables/geo/ju-sa/ju000sa.htmlPallas was discovered in 1802, year of the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction @ 5 Virgo ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi#topLast conjunction @ 22 Taurus on May 28, 2000. I don't know what theme that may have established for the next 20 years, but it matches the rise of Whole Foods, veganism, yoga, people drinking kombucha everywhere. (My son, born in 1999, was astonished last night when I told him kombucha was not available in stores when he was little; I used to make it.) In draconic, that conjunction was @ 26 Capricorn, close to the current conjunction. My impression of the last 20 years is more Capricorn, but maybe that's just because I'm a Capricorn, interpreting events through that lens, taking things seriously. Also, the tropical conjunction @ 22 Taurus is conjunct my 20 Taurus SN in my 10th house. Next conjunction on Oct 31, 2040 @ 17 Libra; this falls @ 23 Leo in draconic, so it will be my draconic Jupiter return (my draco Jupiter @ 26 Leo).
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Post by Ava on Dec 22, 2020 12:26:25 GMT
What does it do in your charts, btw? For me, the most notable is an exact trine to Libra Mars 0.30, part of Mars Pluto (6) Mercury (11) stellium (8th house). That sounds great! I love Mars/Saturn positive aspects for getting things done. Mentioned earlier, this is my Saturn half-return. 0.36 Leo Rx, natal Saturn 0.29 Aqua, tr Saturn I was born on the Epiphany so all the "Star of Bethlehem" stuff reminds me of when I was very young and closely identified with that star (or planets, or whatever that was) because of the song We Three Kings. Seems like a zillion years ago, another lifetime.
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