Marine life asteroids

[Ava]

I've been really fascinated with ocean life and whales in particular lately -- possibly this has something to do with transiting Neptune conjunct my 8H moon in Pisces. Actually my deeper interest began with an emotionally intense dream about a whale, years ago. 

Anyway....@astrokeen mentioned Oceana on another thread & anela mentioned Ceto...thus begins a list:

224 Oceana
65489 Ceto
11322 Aquamarine
1202 Marina
912 Maritima
4341 Poseidon
5574 Seagrave 
9769 Nautilus
1822 Waterman
133009 Watters

Set of ten to copy:
224, 65489, 11322, 1202, 912, 4341, 5574, 9769, 1822, 133009

^^ If you can think of any more, additions are appreciated. 

Some famous mariners/sailors:

4055 Magellan
289586 Shackleton
6542 Jacquescousteau
246913 Slocum

4055, 289586, 6542, 246913

I'll have to look these up later when I have more time:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_water_deities

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[Ava]

My husband wants us to sail around the world, but I just saw I have Seagrave tightly conjunct my NN in Scorpio.

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Ava , Wow!
Given that you could be in for some serious sailing, I can understand your interest in marine asteroids.

Here's 1 more:
Varuna - 20000 - Vedic god of the Oceans

[glaucus]

Feb 2, 2020 16:21:51 GMT @astrokeen said:

Ava , Wow!
Given that you could be in for some serious sailing, I can understand your interest in marine asteroids.

Here's 1 more:
Varuna - 20000 - Vedic god of the Oceans

Varuna is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate ,  and so it's an evolutionary intensified object


there are three other transneptunian dwarf planet candidates that named after aquatic deities

Sedna 90377 - Inuit Ocean Goddess of the Underworld Adlivun which is said to be located at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean

Salacia 120347 - Roman Goddess of Saltwater, the wife of Neptune

Gonggong 225088 - Chinese watergod responsible for chaos, floods and the tilt of the Earth


My Moon in Gu-la (Sidereal Aquarius) which represented watergod Ea/Enki, Neptune, Varuna, and Sedna aspect each other within 1 1/2 degree orb.  

I was in the US Navy for seven years. 

[glaucus]

Ceto is not an asteroid
it's a binary transneptunian centaur with an orbital period that is over 1,000 years

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/65489_Ceto



<=== CETO: Monster Creation ===>
Ceto ( 2003 FX128 / 65489 ) is the creation of monsters within us and around us: the perception of monstrous ness, the assigning of the designation of monster to what is around or within us. The monster is that which is extremely different. It is often tied to that which creates a feeling of fear or revulsion within us. Sometimes this is horrendous as in a Nazi Doctor. Sometimes it is just alien to regular human experience, like Spock or a dwarf. Children's fairy tales abound with monsters for a reason. At core we fear to be rejected for our differentness, for our failure to meet the expectations of those around us and so when we are children we deny and repress that within us that is different and thus unacceptable in our world and it becomes the monster(s) within us. Only when we face and transform these monsters can we reclaim the denied aspects of ourselves and become whole. The aspects to Ceto describe our personal monsters and the monsters we meet in the world, as well as the relationship we have to monsters both within us and around us.


KEY CONCEPTS - CETO
Facing and overcoming fear and anxiety
Terror
Limitations on freedom, the ways the depths of us impact and control us and manifest through us
To be the monster
To see others as monsters
To hate and attack others
To face and deal with the monstrous
To portray the monstrous (stigmata appearing on the body)
To stand up to and seek to fight the monsters
Able to see and recognize the monsters
Seeking to understand what makes monsters, and what makes us monstrous
To understand the monstrous in all of us and have some sympathy, compassion for those whose monsters overwhelm them

astrologicaldepth.com/TNOInfo/Ceto.htm

In my Tropical Chart (I am just using as a frame of reference to measure aspects and people can compare their charts with mine)

Ceto in 18'57 Taurus R
oppose Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio

[glaucus]

Amphitrite 29 - a Nereid, wife of Poseidon

In my chart:
Amphitrite in 26'27 Leo
oppose Mars in 25'54 Aquarius

Nereus 4660 - ruler of the waters succeeded by Poseidon, the father of the Nereids

In my chart:
Nereus in 13'33 Sagittarius
oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius
square Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces
(Zenith/Nadir are points that are exactly square the Ascendant/Descendant axis, and so Nereus is conjunct my Nadir in 13'27 Sagittarius)

Doris 48 - wife of Nereus, mother of the Nereids

in my chart:
Doris in 18'03 Sagittarius
semisextile Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio

Thetis 17 - a Nereid, mother of Achilles

In my chart:
Thetis in 12'23 Leo
oppose/conjunct Lunar Nodes in 10'29 Aquarius/Leo
sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Aquarius

Glaukos 1870 - fisherman turned seagod

In my chart:
Glaukos in 26'04 Libra
trine Mars in 25'54 Aquarius

Scylla 155 - a nymph who was object of Glaukos' love and was turned into a sea monster with dogs attached to her torso

In my chart:
Scylla in 3'39 Aries R
semisextile Moon in 3'11 Pisces

Charybdis 388 - a daughter of Poseidon that was punished by Zeus for siding with her father and turned into a monster that creates whirlpools, she's located across Scylla

In my chart:
Charybdis in 26'14 Leo
oppose Mars in 25'54 Aquarius

Cetacea 2089 - Cetacea is the order that whales, dolphins, and porpoises belong too. Cetus is Latin and is used in biological names to mean "whale"; its original meaning, "large sea animal", was more general. It comes from Ancient Greek κῆτος (kētos), meaning "whale" or "any huge fish or sea monster". In Greek mythology the monster Perseus defeated was called Ceto, which is depicted by the constellation of Cetus. Cetology is the branch of marine science associated with the study of cetaceans.

In my own chart:
Cetacea in 4'19 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
trine Moon in 3'11 Pisces
quincunx Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R

Salmon 29700 - Salmon, a type of fish

in my chart:
Salmon in 5'26 Pisces
trine Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
square Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R

Poisson 12874 - French name for fish

in my chart:
Poisson in 7'16 Virgo
square Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius

Undina 92 - a genus of prehistoric coelacanth, lobe-finned fish, which lived from the Triassic period to the Cretaceous period
Undine, a category of elemental beings associated with water, first named in the alchemical writings of Paracelsus

In my chart:
Undina in 3'03 Gemini R
square Moon in 3'11 Pisces

Merman 5456 - merman

In my chart:
Merman in 12'52 Libra
semisextile/quincunx Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces

Watters in 22'38 Sagittarius
semisextile Venus in 21'47 Scorpio

Seagrave in 7'59 Scorpio
semisextile Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius

Maritima in 7'46 Pisces
square Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius

Nautilus in 19'07 Aries R
quincunx Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio


There is obviously a strong oceanic theme

Moon in 3'11 Pisces
trine Marina in 2'55 Cancer R
trine Cetacea in 4'19 Scorpio
square Undina in 3'03 Gemini R
square Varuna in 3'01 Gemini R
sextile Sedna in 2'06 Taurus R
semisextile Scylla in 3'39 Aries R
quincunx/semisextile Helio N Doris in 3'55 Libra/Aries

Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
conjunct Cetacea in 4'19 Scorpio
conjunct Geo NN Watters in 4'49 Scorpio
conjunct Geo SN Maritima in 4'50 Scorpio
conjunct/oppose Helio N Watters in 4'40 Scorpio/Taurus
oppose/conjunct Helio N Maritima in 4'40 Taurus/Scorpio
oppose Geo NN Maritima in 4'21 Taurus
oppose Geo NN Waters in 4'18 Taurus
trine Salmon in 5'26 Pisces
trine Geo NN Gonggong in 5'55 Pisces
trine Geo NN Amphitrite in 6'02 Pisces
square Helio N Thetis in 5'23 Leo/Aquarius
sextile Geo SN Varuna in 5'41 Capricorn
sextile Geo NN Nautilus in 4'32 Virgo
sextile/trine Helio N Gonggong in 6'27 Pisces/Virgo
quincunx Geo NN Jacquescousteau in 4'45 Aries

Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces
conjunct Helio N Aquamarine in 12'22 Virgo/Pisces
trine/sextile Helio N Merman in 14'11 Taurus/Scorpio
square Nereus in 13'33 Sagittarius
sextile/trine Helio N Cetacea in 12'40 Cancer/Capricorn


Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius
trine/sextile Geo NN Doris in 11'18 Libra
square Helio N Aquamarine in 12'22 Virgo/Pisces

Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio
conjunct Geo SN Marina in 18'13 Scorpio
oppose Ceto in 18'57 Taurus R
trine/sextile Helio N Poseidon in 18'03 Cancer/Capricorn
trine Geo SN Glaukos in 17'53 Pisces
semisextile Doris in 18'03 Sagittarius
quincunx Nautilus in 19'07 Aries R


Venus in 21'47 Scorpio
oppose/conjunct Helio N Marina in 21'07 Taurus/Scorpio
trine Geo SN Ceto in 21'09 Pisces
trine Geo SN Doris in 20'49 Pisces
sextile/trine Helio N Ceto in 21'36 Virgo/Pisces

Mars in 25'54 Aquarius
oppose Geo NN Thetis in 25'38 Leo
oppose Amphitrite in 26'27 Leo
oppose Charybdis in 26'14 Leo
sextile Geo SN Cetacea in 25'31 Sagittarius

Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius
trine Geo NN Cetacea in 7'30 Leo
square Maritima in 7'46 Pisces
square Geo NN Charybdis in 7'38 Pisces
square Geo SN Gonggong in 7'50 Virgo
square Poisson in 7'16 Virgo
semisextile Seagrave in 7'59 Scorpio

Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R
trine Geo SN Charybdis in 4'11 Libra
trine Geo NN Poisson in 6'07 Libra
sextile Geo NN Jacquescousteau in 4'45 Aries

North Lunar Nodes in 10'29 Aquarius/Leo
oppose Helio N Nautilus in 9'30 Leo/Aquarius
square Geo SN Scylla in 9'52 Scorpio
square Geo NN Waterman in 9'16 Scorpio
square Helio N Scylla in 11'17 Taurus/Scorpio
square Helio N Waterman in 11'22 Scorpio/Taurus
square Geo SN Merman in 11'29 Scorpio



Helio N = Heliocentric Nodes which are very slow moving at around 1 degree per century, and so associated with the collective

Geo NN = Geocentric North Node

Geo SN = Geocentric South Node

[Ava]

Thank you glaucus .

Ceto changes signs pretty quickly; I'm having trouble understanding how an object with such a long orbital period can move through the zodiac so quickly. Well it moved about two signs in the 50-ish years between when my father and I were born, but then moved over four signs in the next 25 years.

Currently Ceto is @ 25 Scorpio exactly opposing my draconic sun; my Ceto @ 29 Taurus so I'm up for my Ceto half-return soon.

That stuff about the monsters resonates.

[glaucus]

The Astronomical features of the objects help understand how objects with long orbital periods can move through the zodiac quickly.
As I pointed out before, Ceto is a binary transneptunian object that has centaurian qualities which indicates an object that has a highly eccentric orbit.

It's an unusual transneptunian object with it being also being considered also a centaur like Chiron, Pholus, Nessus under an extended definition of centaur


Ceto's satellite was identified as a binary on April 11, 2006 by K. Noll, H. Levison, W. Grundy and D. Stephens using the Hubble Space Telescope; the object was named Phorcys, formally (65849) Ceto I Phorcys, after the Greek sea god. Using an extended definition of a centaur as an object on a non-resonant (unstable) orbit with its perihelion inside the orbit of Neptune,[10] the Ceto system can be considered the second known binary centaur.[3]




Ceto's Eccentricity - 0.82635
1042.22 yr (380669.7 d)


in comparison

some centaurs

Chiron's Eccentricity - 0.3823
Orbital period 0.3823

Pholus' orbital eccentricity - 0.5695
Orbital period 92.09 yr (33,637 d)

Nessus' Eccentricity 0.5189
Orbital period 122.30 yr (44,670 d)


some transneptunian objects

Pluto's Eccentricity 0.2488
Orbital period 247.94 yr (90,560 d)

Eris' Eccentricity 0.43607
Orbital period 559.07 yr (204,199 d)

Sedna's Eccentricity 0.84259
Orbital period 11,400 yr


The planets

Mercury's Eccentricity 0.205630

Venus' Eccentricity 0.006772

Mars' Eccentricity 0.0934

Jupiter's Eccentricity 0.0489

Saturn's Eccentricity 0.0565

Uranus' Eccentricity 0.046381

Neptune's Eccentricity 0.008678



Pluto and Mercury have orbits that are highly eccentric
The centaurs and the transneptunian objects that I have listed have orbits that are even more eccentric
Sedna and Ceto have the most eccentric orbits.



The orbital eccentricity of an astronomical object is a dimensionless parameter that determines the amount by which its orbit around another body deviates from a perfect circle. A value of 0 is a circular orbit, values between 0 and 1 form an elliptic orbit, 1 is a parabolic escape orbit, and greater than 1 is a hyperbola. The term derives its name from the parameters of conic sections, as every Kepler orbit is a conic section. It is normally used for the isolated two-body problem, but extensions exist for objects following a Klemperer rosette orbit through the galaxy.


The eccentricity of the Earth's orbit is currently about 0.0167; the Earth's orbit is nearly circular. Venus and Neptune have even lower eccentricities. Over hundreds of thousands of years, the eccentricity of the Earth's orbit varies from nearly 0.0034 to almost 0.058 as a result of gravitational attractions among the planets (see graph).[1]

The table lists the values for all planets and dwarf planets, and selected asteroids, comets, and moons. Mercury has the greatest orbital eccentricity of any planet in the Solar System (e = 0.2056). Such eccentricity is sufficient for Mercury to receive twice as much solar irradiation at perihelion compared to aphelion. Before its demotion from planet status in 2006, Pluto was considered to be the planet with the most eccentric orbit (e = 0.248). Other Trans-Neptunian objects have significant eccentricity, notably the dwarf planet Eris (0.44). Even further out, Sedna, has an extremely high eccentricity of 0.855 due to its estimated aphelion of 937 AU and perihelion of about 76 AU.

Most of the Solar System's asteroids have orbital eccentricities between 0 and 0.35 with an average value of 0.17.[2] Their comparatively high eccentricities are probably due to the influence of Jupiter and to past collisions.

The Moon's value is 0.0549, the most eccentric of the large moons of the Solar System. The four Galilean moons have eccentricity < 0.01. Neptune's largest moon Triton has an eccentricity of 1.6×10−5 (0.000016),[3] the smallest eccentricity of any known moon in the Solar System;[citation needed] its orbit is as close to a perfect circle as can be currently[when?] measured. However, smaller moons, particularly irregular moons, can have significant eccentricity, such as Neptune's third largest moon Nereid (0.75).

Comets have very different values of eccentricity. Periodic comets have eccentricities mostly between 0.2 and 0.7,[4] but some of them have highly eccentric elliptical orbits with eccentricities just below 1, for example, Halley's Comet has a value of 0.967. Non-periodic comets follow near-parabolic orbits and thus have eccentricities even closer to 1. Examples include Comet Hale–Bopp with a value of 0.995[5] and comet C/2006 P1 (McNaught) with a value of 1.000019.[6] As Hale–Bopp's value is less than 1, its orbit is elliptical and it will return.[5] Comet McNaught has a hyperbolic orbit while within the influence of the planets,[6] but is still bound to the Sun with an orbital period of about 105 years.[7] As of a 2010 Epoch, Comet C/1980 E1 has the largest eccentricity of any known hyperbolic comet with an eccentricity of 1.057,[8] and will leave the Solar System eventually.

ʻOumuamua is the first interstellar object found passing through the Solar System. Its orbital eccentricity of 1.20 indicates that ʻOumuamua has never been gravitationally bound to our sun. It was discovered 0.2 AU (30,000,000 km; 19,000,000 mi) from Earth and is roughly 200 meters in diameter. It has an interstellar speed (velocity at infinity) of 26.33 km/s (58,900 mph).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_eccentricity

[Ava]

Feb 2, 2020 15:32:57 GMT Ava said:

 Actually my deeper interest began with an emotionally intense dream about a whale, years ago.

It was like this, the connection to the whale.

[Ava]