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Post by FruityLlama on Aug 31, 2019 17:31:16 GMT
I'm of the understanding that this in Vedic means to be negatively influenced by Mars. In Vedic, such people are sensitively called 'Mangliks' LOL and are advised to have relationships only with other Mangliks in order to cancel the effect out or something. Mangal Dosha can be identified in the (lunar?) chart when Mars is in the 1st (?), 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, 12th house from the ASC/Lagna. I just wanted to see what you all thought about this really. I am a Manglik and I'm not feeling too great about it haha vedicrishi.in/kundli/manglik-dosha-effect-remediesYou can find out your Mangal Dosha via the above link.
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Post by Ava on Aug 31, 2019 19:56:59 GMT
"The Vedic astrology considers ascendent and the placement of 4th, 2nd, 7th, 8th and 12th house as unfavourable. Mars is basically known as the killer of marriage in all these houses as it is a significator of an individual’s health, personality and physic."
Despite not having Mars in any of those houses, apparently I am still Manglik.....
Looking at all that I wonder who isn't Manglik?
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Post by FruityLlama on Aug 31, 2019 20:42:22 GMT
That's really strange how it is still Manglik for you Ava ! And I agree, there seems to be a lot of rules for this Manglik Dosha. In fact, I ran my mother's chart- she has Mars in the 4th house, her 8th house lord trines Rahu exactly and her 12th house lord is the Sun. She apparently isn't Manglik though! It freaks me out a bit does Vedic, but I don't want to be ignorant. I just don't 100% understand why these placements are so bad on the personality and prospects for marriage? I'm probably too entrenched in western but part of me can't see why Mars is so bad. I know what it's bad points are but everyone has Mars somewhere which, theoretically, could wreak havoc in any area of a chart?!
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Aug 31, 2019 21:26:40 GMT
Looking at all that I wonder who isn't Manglik? Yeah, it seems far-fetched, and, frankly, just fear-mongering. I wonder if this originated in the days when women's assertiveness or aggression was not looked at favourably? It never is, but it was especially criticized back in the day. Did they think these Mars aspects would make her aggressive and "not a good spouse"?
Maybe this website has a broader definition of Manglik than usual. But either way, the whole concept puts me off.
FruityLlama, I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Manglik or not, Life sucks for all.
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Post by Ava on Sept 1, 2019 1:51:00 GMT
I don't like the fear-mongering either. My marriage has not been ideal and my Navamsa chart is a mess, so I have to admit there appears to be some correlation.
But I'd rather just deal with things and try to enjoy life anyway. For those of us who already experienced a non-ideal marriage, there's no point in fearing anything, the negative prediction already came true. So then what?....
To whatever extent I am not polite, oh well...usually I'm polite, but maybe it's overrated. I remember this fiesty lady in her 90s at the nursing home where my parents-in-law lived. She overheard my husband talking to me, turned to me after he was gone and told me off for not having enough of a backbone. She was even more fatalistic than that, like "You're going nowhere." LOL
Then she went back to marking up her printed-out dinner menu, emphatically circling what she wanted and putting x's though other items.
I remember thinking, "No wonder you lived so long. You're decisive, and you don't give a f*ck if you just hurt my feelings or not."
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"I know what it's bad points are but everyone has Mars somewhere which, theoretically, could wreak havoc in any area of a chart?!"
Yes
"Life sucks for all."
Yeah
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Post by FruityLlama on Sept 1, 2019 16:25:39 GMT
Thanks both for your replies, there's some very good points there and I'm glad you agree it is a bit fatalistic. That's interesting re: the point about womens roles historically 12YearsABlob . I suppose Vedic comes from a different culture too which needs to be taken into account. I forget that because I don't what has been modernised or not. Aw Ava I'm sorry about that lady. There's something to be said for being outspoken but there's a fine line between that and rudeness haha! Maybe politeness is overrated, but I'm glad there are still polite people like you out there anyway!! I'll echo both of your sentiments with "Life's a bitch and then you die!"
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 1, 2019 16:32:37 GMT
To your original point, though - I have known many people who have this "dosha" go on to have successful marriages and those who don't, don't necessarily fare any better. It's real easy to say "if you have X, you'll have a bad Y", because guess what, most people have unpleasant aspects to their lives. If you keep looking, you're mathematically guaranteed to find examples, but that's not enough for a valid correlation. In my experience at least, there doesn't seem to be much of a link between "manglik" and "wedded bliss" (or lack thereof. Hope that sets you at ease a little.
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Post by lumina on Sept 1, 2019 16:42:52 GMT
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Post by FruityLlama on Sept 1, 2019 16:50:59 GMT
Thank you 12YearsABlob and lumina for that, it has eased my mind a lot! I know it's silly of me to get worried over what some placement interpretation says. I freaked out big time when I first researched Uranus in 7th and Lord of 8th in 7th haha...nearly cried! However, I've come to my senses with age and I know astrology isn't set in stone although I think there is an added sense of intimidation with Vedic. I'm new to it, so I'm back to being a cry-baby like I was when I first got into western. It comes across as either more wizened than western or just totally bonkers so it unnerves at times. I have a small mind so it's my fault as much as it is the interpretations probably haha
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