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Post by Ava on Aug 22, 2018 14:02:11 GMT
Both are typically gentle, deferential, concerned with beauty...
Both are reclusive when out of balance, needing peace and quiet to self-heal...
Both are concerned with the underdog and will fight for the underprivileged...
Both can be evasive, not giving direct answers, seeing both sides of the coin...
How would you describe the difference between them?
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These signs are connected by solstice points, containing degrees that are equidistant from the winter solstice, 0° Capricorn.
For example my Libra Pluto and Pisces moon are both about 78° from 0° Capricorn, and therefore, they are connected. Not sure where one energy begins and the other ends, to be honest. (Moon's in the 8th, so connected to Pluto that way, too.)
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Post by FruityLlama on Aug 22, 2018 14:14:33 GMT
Honestly, I don't think Pisces is as concerned with intellectual feats as much as Libra is. From personal experience, Pisces can find it hard to hold onto that kind of approach whereas Libra needs it to feel balanced. Libra is harder to convince about things- particularly if the mercury is in Libra.
Both are compassionate, but the Libras in my life don't believe things just because, they need to do research, whereas I think Pisces will find a way to believe anything. I don't mean that to sound rude, but I do find them more gullible because they place more stock on emotions more than anything.
That said, I think it might differ if the Pisces in question has a lot of Aries. I've just realised I know someone with a Pisces sun and loads in Aries and they are p.much the opposite of what I just said haha.
But very generally, I think Pisces is slightly ditzier. For the record, people always think I am a pisces when they meet me or sometimes they say I seem like it online too haha!!
PS. You can always tell a Pisces luminary by their eyes- they look like marbles or are noticeable in some way.
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Post by lumina on Aug 22, 2018 15:20:56 GMT
Since I like quoting myself Hey I am a 1st house Sun, right on the Galactic Centre, what did you expect? "Libra as much as she is into relationship, tends to view them as a mirror to reflect herself; the Aries- LIbra axis is all about SELF I think (and that is not necessarily bad), Aries asserts himself and finds his SELF by being independent and not melted with others, Libra finds her SELF in the reflection of others, in relating to them, but for Libra it`s all about herself, too. Yes, Librans can be very giving and generous and even seem altruistic, but in the end they want to be seen that way, they want to have the attention or maybe even more so the respect for their giving nature. Well, and now there comes the Virgo-Pisces-axis into play, and I think Libra can learn a lot about service and doing necessary things (Virgo) and about true altruism and devotion (Pisces)." www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000036.htmlLibra, also, as a symbol (not talking about individuals of course), does not fight for the underdog because of true feeling and compassion for the underdog, but because Librans always feel the urge to see and emphasize the "other side", to create a balance. My aunt, who is a Libra, actually does fight for the underdog and argues, until someone else really supports her point of view, then she will switch to the other side to also bring the positive sides up. Well she generally would always support the underdog on priniciple, but it is an interesting thing I`ve noticed with Libra-influenced people quite a lot. Also indecisiveness - Libras cannot decide because they see both sides; Pisces often do not even see the necessity to choose an option, cause there are so many drops in the ocean, but at the end of the day they are all equal and only in their sum make the ocean, why pick one of them over the other; if they are vibrating with the same spirit? (of course I am exaggerating).
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Post by lumina on Aug 22, 2018 15:22:37 GMT
Also Libra is an air sign - it operates from the thinking function. Pisces as water sign operates from the feeling-function. But they need each other, and there is a subtle yet strong bond between them, because of the solstice points yes, but also Venus is exalted in Pisces.
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Post by Violets on Aug 22, 2018 17:52:37 GMT
I find that Pisces aren't really all that concerned with beauty and comfort, or decorum, compared to Libras. Their concepts of these things seem more personalized and idiosyncratic than Libra's, in my experience. Libras tend to have a knack for what is universally comfortable, pleasant, and smooth, whereas for the Pisces I think it's often more about their particular preferences.
Libras may be concerned with justice on a widespread level, and Pisces is more inclined to look at their immediate environment, perhaps more intuitively? Friends, family, or particular causes that they can support more personally in their surroundings.
Libras are certainly more intellectual than Pisceans in my experience. A Libra reads up on topics, educates themselves thoroughly on an issue, and can really nail a debate.
While Pisces may not be able to articulate the same points as concisely, they're able to come to the same conclusions (sometimes with more insight) by simple observation. It does make the Pisces a bit less articulate, but they may just bypass the need to explain their observations.
Thats about all I can sputter out right now, lol. I'll try to get back to this thread if I can.
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Post by anela on Aug 22, 2018 23:34:57 GMT
Honestly, I don't think Pisces is as concerned with intellectual feats as much as Libra is. From personal experience, Pisces can find it hard to hold onto that kind of approach whereas Libra needs it to feel balanced. Libra is harder to convince about things- particularly if the mercury is in Libra. Both are compassionate, but the Libras in my life don't believe things just because, they need to do research, whereas I think Pisces will find a way to believe anything. I don't mean that to sound rude, but I do find them more gullible because they place more stock on emotions more than anything. That said, I think it might differ if the Pisces in question has a lot of Aries. I've just realised I know someone with a Pisces sun and loads in Aries and they are p.much the opposite of what I just said haha. But very generally, I think Pisces is slightly ditzier. For the record, people always think I am a pisces when they meet me or sometimes they say I seem like it online too haha!! PS. You can always tell a Pisces luminary by their eyes- they look like marbles or are noticeable in some way. I’m Aries with pisces, and I can be gullible, unless it concerns something I’m naturally wary of, like gurus.
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Post by the89freespirit on Aug 23, 2018 2:02:23 GMT
Besides the differences everyone else has stated, I think that Pisces is super-feminine while Libra is distinctly feminine yet innately not, at the same time.
People with Pisces placements are usually consumed by their receptivity, sensitivity, and vulnerability. It comes out in a lot of different ways. It either makes the person very fragile, gentle, and soft or it causes them to express that energy through the tortured artist or troubled/reformed sinner archetype. In any case, they have to totally surrender and receive, which makes their feminine side very powerful.
For people with Libra placements, the feminine energy is used with an objective or rationale. A lot of women with Libra energy actually don't feel much like girly-girls, on the inside, but they find ways to use their femininity to their advantage, turning their beauty or their womanly charm into a weapon (it is a masculine side, after all). The man with Libra energy often isn't exactly a man's man but he takes his feminine side and uses it to be smooth, stylish/sophisticated, a heartthrob, an expert on women and maybe even a player, which gives him a masculine sort of validation.
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Post by Ava on Aug 23, 2018 2:28:26 GMT
Thank you all!
These are such intelligent and helpful answers, I feel spoiled.
Probably more to say tomorrow.
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Post by Violets on Aug 23, 2018 16:02:39 GMT
I'll tag Candyland in case she happens to be online. We've been best friends for 38 years, Libra and Pisces. 💕 Maybe she can offer some input.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 16:44:51 GMT
Okay so.. I am a 3 planet Pisces (Sun Moon Mercury) with Libra ASC so I think I can have some input 😉
Do I take care of underdog? Nope. Sure I'll help if its needed or asked of me. Sure I might give needed help if someone is strugling with something. But will I go out of my way? no way . I have learned to put myself and my needs first. My family is very known to say that I always made things work in my favour. I am not selfish its just I give out a little less than I used to when I was younger due to past experience. I still think I give more than your averige Joe.
Then ther is my 6 planet Libra sister, she is all about self sacrifice, the underdog, the ones hurt by injustice is her main cause. She is all about the injustice and balance in the universe. She would be the peace on earth answer if she was a beauty queen and mean it. I am more of a if I cannot do anything myself I wont get all crazy about it. Example. She follows to great detail that Avery case that was on Making a murderer while I just ask her whats new. Can I help the man? No. So wont put my energy into it.
I am of a lets rescue some dogs kinda person.
Feminine/Beauty.
She is alllll about make up and beauty products. Knows everything and has great make up skills. She is always always late because of this. Me? I got into make up in my 20s before that it was give me mascara and I can go. Ummm she is more into looking put together and feminine, thought out. I am more into looking like myself and being different but in my own way but also being comfortable. She used to be in heals all the time while I still rocks sneakers all the time. Ok I am quite tall so thats also a reason but to her heals = feminine.
The quiet thing.. yea I need my quiet time I like it. Her IDK if its more just habbit or she needs it but.
We are both very picky over who we socialize with thats for sure.
I am evasive when it comes to family including her. Its just about avoiding unnecessary judgment. Otherwise I am brutally honest and have been told I can be cut throat. Her... umm not sure she is blunt with family but tries to keep the scales balanced.
There 😆
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Post by Ava on Aug 25, 2018 2:05:12 GMT
Thanks @intuitivefish! I've been thinking of all these answers...just running around too much lately to respond. lumina"Venus is exalted in Pisces" Ohhh...right, and Neptune is the "higher octave" of Venus, isn't it? I write this as Venus in Libra is quincunx to Neptune in Pisces, domicile and domicile.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 5:25:47 GMT
Libra is more like a combination of Pisces and Cancer. They think their self image is reflected via their partner. Libras ctuallu take things quite personally initially and once they realize it’s nit about them then they become somewhat indifferent. Also Libras struggle with self esteem issues... they compare themselves with others and they learn to put a price tag on themselves that way.
Now Pisces tends to think of themselves as abnormal, outside of the humanly world. They don’t compare themselves the way libra does, mostly because they think they’re above it. As well as above chores, washing dishes, bearing children etc. Sometimes Pisces would walk around pretending to be normal, so they might copy the way mags present a room etc. They try to give the pretense of normalcy. Pisces truly in touch with themselves are more zany, quirky, idiosyncratic. Libra in touch with themselves are graceful.
There are obviously more but imo libra/Pisces couples function well because libra is a lot more conservative and stern than given credits for and if you live with a libra they will subtly (or not) suggest rules so you can sustain their life balance. And Pisces is submissive and kinda prefer to be taken care of so they attract those who give them a structure to swim in. And libra does it with enough subtlety
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 7:17:27 GMT
With my Libra sister, it is a lot about self esteem, she always seems to be on some diet but it is usually a short term thing and not really making some long term goals. I don't think I am above chores and especially not above bearing children, that part, I (personally) do not agree with. I never try to pretend to be normal, all my life I dealt with everyone calling me weird but accepting it and being myself no matter their comment. For a long time she has been single but not sure if that is the reflection of no one being perfect enough for her liking or that she just got lazy with meeting people. I am more, lets do stuff, lets go on some adventure and she is more leave me in my bed to sleep all day, get up to drink coffee and go back to bed.
This is maybe because she is my sister but I do not function well with her. Giving me rules for their balance is something that would piss me off and would make me not want to do it. (Hence me living alone I guess) I did not wish to have others impose rules of their life balance on me so I made my own where I live how I like by my rules. My sister for example is not subtle in any way about the rules she thinks are right, she tries to impose them with great force and goes all victim/princess on anyone who does not comply. But maybe that is her, with the 6 planet stellium.
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Post by lumina on Aug 25, 2018 9:56:32 GMT
lumina "Venus is exalted in Pisces" Ohhh...right, and Neptune is the "higher octave" of Venus, isn't it? Yes though I do not really like that term "higher octave", as it implies something "better", which imo is not the truth. BTW about Libras - Saturn is exalted in Libra, so they are very much about rules, structures etc. just giving it a Venusian touch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 16:51:44 GMT
Obviously no description is applicable to everyone. Also I’m not saying the won’t do chores, they just hate it significantly more than anybody else I ever met
Like I get it Virgo stuff are boring but hmm ... you don’t have to be so angry
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Post by Violets on Aug 25, 2018 16:53:40 GMT
"BTW about Libras - Saturn is exalted in Libra, so they are very much about rules, structures etc. just giving it a Venusian touch." I think this is a good point. I have a lot of thoughts on Libra-Pisces, but I'll have to come back to it (like when all of the outer planets stop squaring everything in my chart, maybe ).
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Post by Ava on Aug 26, 2018 19:49:19 GMT
Thanks again for your answers. My brain isn't working too well lately, and I can't seem to tap into my own impressions and name them.
I tend to get along really well with Libras, particularly that smooth, accomodating, "people pleasing" side. My Libra mega stellium sister-in-law refers to herself disdainfully as people-pleasing, but I sure like it a lot. And I enjoy their refinements and sophistication. My Libra moon husband loves classical music and the opera, he had Romeo and Juliet memorized at one point and still quotes from it, he loves antiques and cats, and fine art...you get the picture. And his moon's conjunct my Pluto, so originally I thought all of this was extremely hot and everlastingly charming. And I guess that will never change. I'll always admire his style.
The downside is, there is a sense of snobbery with it and "My taste is the best taste" and looking down on other styles, which tortures my Pisces moon soul...
Like if we go to Ikea, he's admiring whatever looks the most neatly conservative, while I'm dreaming of decorating a spacious studio apartment in the most zany-but-still-relatable way that I can imagine. And it's anathema to him. LOL
Because his moon is cardinal, and mine is more acquiescing for the sake of peace, I've lived within his style for the most part, though we share certain tastes (again, moon-Pluto synastry). But still, left to my own devices, I prefer to push the boundaries of acceptable, for fun's sake, and also I think there's a point to be made in that...as it takes vision and courage to go rogue with one's style. Pisces seems to care more about setting an example for others (ie, "see? you can just be freewheeling") than showing off for its own sake, though I guess that can also be rewarding, and an act of self-love, to just honor their own instincts and revel in the beauty of it.
Meanwhile giving credit where it's due, the smoothness of the Libra vibe and its level of polish and sparkle can end up in a category all its own.
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Post by Ava on Aug 26, 2018 19:59:02 GMT
PS. You can always tell a Pisces luminary by their eyes- they look like marbles or are noticeable in some way. Thanks for your whole reply, just wanted to comment on this. ^ My eyes are expressive. I have been told that so many times. You can maybe imagine the horror of being a Cap sun, thinking I've got my poker face nailed down, and watching video footage of myself........where I feel like my emotions are plain as day to anyone, because my eyes are so revealing. Total failure on the one hand, but on the other hand, some people like expressive eyes, and so I think my eyes have directed my life story more than I give them credit for. For instance on this past wedding anniversary I thought to ask my husband if he was attracted to me when he first met me, or what he liked first. He said it was my eyes. And they are pretty boring in shape and color. But a lot comes through.
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Post by Ava on Aug 26, 2018 20:06:06 GMT
While Pisces may not be able to articulate the same points as concisely, they're able to come to the same conclusions (sometimes with more insight) by simple observation. It does make the Pisces a bit less articulate, but they may just bypass the need to explain their observations. I notice this so clearly with my Pisces sun-Mercury best friend. Her vocabulary isn't huge, her writing style isn't polished, she doesn't have an encyclopedic knowledge of the issues....... But she doesn't need all that, she just cuts through it all with observation and logic. It's a shame a lot of people don't quite register the value of that or consider themselves mentally superior. Her lawyer boyfriend never knew what to make of her. I'm sure she could have been a more successful lawyer than him, if she had the means. Even with half the vocabulary, she just knows how to get where she is going.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 7, 2018 16:20:23 GMT
The downside is, there is a sense of snobbery with it and "My taste is the best taste" and looking down on other styles, which tortures my Pisces moon soul... Isn't he a Leo sun, though?
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