Mars/Uranus midpoint

[Ava]

For any readers unfamiliar with the process...

To locate natal midpoints, at astro.com select "Ebertin style (w. midpoints)" for the chart drawing style, and then at the top left of that chart, click on "PDF Additional tables."

One just needs to know their astro glyphs and have good eyesight, to make sense of the data provided.

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This is a particularly potent midpoint. Currently it's transiting @ 19° Pisces, conjunct my moon, so I wanted to explore it more...

Planets activating the Mars/Uranus midpoint

Principle: Sudden and unexpected actions. To find one's own independent and unique way of doing things. To be assertively rebellious. Accidents, which are a manifestation of pent-up energy that need to be released. To be impulsive in one's actions, and/or to act erratically. Inspired action.

Process: Active experimentation. The breaking out of old forms and patterns and the creating of new one's that offer more freedom and which more clearly reflect the true self.

john-sandbach.blogspot.com/2010/11/planets-affecting-marsuranus-midpoint.html

I think it's something to be careful with and mindful of in synastry, though I didn't put this in the relationship section, just wanted to toss that in there. 

Where is your Mars/Uranus midpoint? Do you notice anything significant about it?  

[lumina]

I think David cochrane has a study saying that IT IS frequently activated in accidents.

Though IT can also mean other Things. I think IT could be potentially exciting or overstimulating at Times.

Cool that IT was activated during Birth for You.

[lumina]

My own IS at 18 Scorpio.

Hello Jupiter! 😉

[Ava]

Jul 19, 2018 15:57:01 GMT lumina said:

Cool that IT was activated during Birth for You.

Just had to double check and of course, found an error...my DRACONIC Mars/Uranus midpoint was active in childbirth.

To revise what I edited from the OP:

My Mars/Uranus mipoint is @ 26 Leo, right on my pr ASC the first time I gave birth, if my chart is correct. Mars/Uranus mp conjunct my draconic Jupiter and my firstborn is a Sag.

My draconic Mars/Uranus midpoint @ 6°18 Cap is conjunct my DNA and was typically activated in childbirth too ("sudden and unexpected actions" especially with my first son, whose moon is at 7° Cap....I went into labor with him almost three weeks early).

Now I'll have to think about it more, with respect to accidents and other things.

[lumina]

Draco makes Sense though, AS the nodes are related to Family and childbirth too

[Ava]

Jul 19, 2018 16:00:29 GMT lumina said:

My own IS at 18 Scorpio.

Hello Jupiter! 😉

On my mean NN

"Node: To seek out people that one can dynamically interact with in a free, open, and/or experimental way. To make connections with people or groups suddenly. One is learning in this lifetime how to be truly free in one's actions, and how to base one's actions on what one feels inside, rather than trying to do things the way other people do them."

Well much of our conversation is experimental, and astrology has been freeing for me, and you've brought a lot of that into my life, showing me how real it is. So thank you!

Also......wasn't 18 Scorpio one of those mystery degrees with P that kept getting activated, but you weren't sure why?

[lumina]

Jul 19, 2018 16:47:45 GMT Ava said:

Jul 19, 2018 16:00:29 GMT lumina said:

My own IS at 18 Scorpio.

Hello Jupiter! 😉

Also......wasn't 18 Scorpio one of those mystery degrees with P that kept getting activated, but you weren't sure why?

Yes, it was. To the point I HAD to pay attention. 


the "she drives me crazy" comment: Saturn 17 Scorpio, Venus 18 Taurus

first fanmeeting, with the dessert-conversation: MC 20 Scorpio, Venus 18 Leo

when he was observing/ stalking me before a concert, through a cafe window: Mercury 19 Aquarius

the encounter that preceded the invention of the podcasts, where he was x-raying me: Mercury 16 Taurus, Venus 19 Taurus

first workshop and the hug: Moon 15 Leo - IC 22 Leo

that email exchange last october, when he was obviously fishing for compliments: Moon 17 Scorpio

that moment after a concert, after he had sent me extra gifts, and he was just stroking my arm, apparently not knowing what to say. lol: IC 19 Aquarius

the first podcast episode: Mercury 17 Taurus

the shot-in-the-dark-nunsense talk: NN 19 Leo

when he was sneaking up on me on the open air last year, putting on the gorilla mask. lol: Mercury 16 Leo, DESC 17 Leo


interestingly neither the talk after the concert in march, nor now on the fanmeeting, had this degree triggered in an obvious way. 
though on the fanmeeting there was Mercury on 11 Leo and Venus on 27 Leo, so the transiting Mercury/Venus-midpoint was near squaring my Mars/Uranus



Well he has in his own natal chart asteroid Valentine on 19 Scorpio, exact conjunct on my Anteros. and what I find interesting 
his Venus/Jupiter and Venus/Mars are both on 18 Scorpio. (of course this means they are also conjunct his wife`s SN, plus her natal Mercury-Venus is on his own far Mars/Uranus-mp, which probably explains the quick attraction and even fertility. Just guessing)

Well his own Mars/Uranus is on 17 LIbra and his Jupiter/Uranus on 16 Libra (squaring my Saturn on 17 Cancer apparently). 

It is actually funny how her Mercury (and Venus) is opposite his Mars/Uranus, while my Mercury (and Sun) conjuncts his Venus/Uranus.

my Saturn squaring his Mars/Uranus must be quite crazy making I suppose. Of course his Mars/Uranus is closish to our composite Pluto and squaring our composite Venus. 


Of course this degree is also tied to my Moon on 17 Aquarius and my name asteroid is on 17 Taurus, though he doesn`t really have anything natally at around the mid fixed degrees, at least not that I can think of, EXCEPT the midpoints of Venus/Jupiter and Venus/Mars on 18 Scorpio, and the midpoints of Juno/Eros on 18 Taurus and Jupiter/Juno and Mars/Juno on 18-19 Leo and Sun/Ceres, Moon/Ceres, Ceres/MC and Venus/Eros on 17 Aqua (the Venus/eros is closest to my Moon, just one minute of orb).

[lumina]

BTW this is the video of Cochrane on predicting accidents (personally I don`t think this should scare us away, but maybe make us a little more careful when we have something coming up). 



Interestingly I remember that I had some sort of accident (though it was only me involved, I managed to trip, fall and possibly dislocate my kneecap while dancing. lol - and that was the only time I remember that I had to use crutches for some time, until it healed - of course it healed on itself, despite the fearmongering doctors in the hospital, who would have liked to do some knee surgery, without even knowing for sure what was wrong! - neither my parents nor me wanted that though, and said we would take the risk.   ). 

Anyway around that time Tr Pluto was in mid scorpio and alternatively squaring my Moon and conjunct my Mars/Uranus-mp. I suppose when it happened, some faster object must have been there, too, not exactly sure about the day but it was in the beginning of may. 

Well it also made it impossible for me to dance on prom (well just some kind of prom, not really from school), which was the good thing about it, cause I didn`t really like the boy who invited me there. Well I liked him, but I didn`t like it that he liked me much more than I liked him and that pretty much my parents, especially my mother, was pressuring me to give him a chance ("after all you`ve known each other since kindergarten and he just lost his Dad" - I never understood why that would mean that I should sacrifice my own life because of that; I mean I felt compassion, but I did not want to marry him out of compassion. LOL Yeah, well 15 year old girls think in dramatic terms.   curiously enough he was my astro - twin, same day, same year, even the birthtime was pretty closish). 


But yes that was the accident I can remember. I did fall into a swimmingpool when about 2 years old and nearly drowned, if my Dad hadn`t saved me, but I do not remember the exact date. Well it is kind of fitting though, at that time my pr ASC (or even solar Arc ASC) must have come to a partile conjunction with my Neptune; interestingly I have asteroid Angel exact on my ASC, so at least the solar arc version of Angel was by then conjunct Neptune as well. - oh and I also have Atlantis conjunct ASC by 1 degree. And Varuna on my DESC - hindu god of Water- and my Dad has Atlantis conjunct ASC as well, Angel is a bit far off, but still within 9 degree of the ASC. And Varuna on his Moon - we seem to all have a pattern of Atlantis/Varuna with the angles or luminaries in our family. My mother`s brother drowned when he was around 2 years old, and unfortunately died. My youngest brother was also almost drowning in a pond, if my middle brother had not pulled him out of there. I remember that once I have been standing on a sandbank in the ocean with my little brother on my arm and the other at my hand, we had not seen the flood coming so quickly. Well we were close enough so we could wade through the water, but it was already kneehigh, it was a bit of a close call. There actually have been quite some close calls when it came to me and water. lol 

Maybe it is family karma on the maternal side. Her grandmother, her mother and aunt were booked to be on the ship Gustloff in 2nd world war, but they missed the ship, because my great grandmother - God bless her - was being late, so they were walking on foot across the frozen baltic sea. 
Anyway the ship, the Gustloff, was being shot and sank by the Russians, I believe? or the Brits? And there were actually more casualties than on the Titanic. 
So this definitely had beeen a VERY close call for our family. It is actually crazy if you think about it. My family, esp. the maternal side, had been having more than one guardian angel during the war watching over them. even my grand dad came back from Russia, when pretty much noone came back from there, he was lucky to contract a sickness early on, and was one of the last people being sent back to Germany, instead of simply being shot. 

Sorry I got carried away, but I am still amazed at parts of my family history, and to think that if this family had not been that lucky at certain junctures, I wouldn`t exist, neither would my brothers or my nephew) 

[lumina]

BTW around the time of my knee-accident there was a transiting Sun-Pluto-opposition, putting Tr Sun opposite my Mars/Uranus-mp, I am not sure however it was exact at the time of the actual accident, it might have been applying by 2 degrees, or I remember the date wrong. lol

the other midpoints he mentions are in my chart like this:

Mars/Uranus: 18 Scorpio (-Taurus) (square Moon by 1°09)
Sun/Uranus: 28 Scorpio (-Taurus)
Saturn/Uranus: 9 Virgo (-Pisces) (opposite Ceres exact, squaring Neptune-Node; very intriguing midpoint, not just because it might be accidentprone, but because of the inherent combination and tension between "old/new; stay/leave")

Sun/Mars: 15 Sag (-Gemini)

Mars/Saturn: 26 Virgo (-Pisces): square my Sun-Mercury, and falling onto my Draco horizon;
well Mars/Saturn was dubbed by Ebertin as the "death-axis", just like Saturn/Neptune was dubbed the "sickness-axis": luckily both also have more constructive manifestations, though Mars/Saturn IS often activated in cases of death, but also in different circumstances, and Saturn/Neptune seems to often align with a weak immune systems; I suspect that happens if you fail to bring dreams and reality into a constructive union and create something from it, if that does not succeed, then we get the usual often repeated manifestations like sickness, depression, feelings of meaninglessness etc.

I hope that it counts for something that natally I have Saturn biquintile Neptune.

[lumina]

BTW my Sun/Uranus-mp was activated big time on the first fanmeeting 3 years agi (conjunct Tr Moon-Saturn on 27-28 Scorpio; square Tr Sun on 29 Leo, with Tr Venus square Mars/Uranus exact; Tr Neptune opposite Saturn/Uranus exact; ).

[Ava]

My Mars/Uranus midpoint synastry musical tribute....

Anyone mind Taylor Swift?

Of course not, right...

[lumina]

Those Draco. And right in P,'s Draco Asc. Lol

[Ava]

Edit 

I have to go back and fix some of those degrees.

Edit #2 - Okay now it's fixed. 

At astro.com, the default setting for draconic Ebertin is mean node, not true node. You have to be sure to click true node manually if that's what you want.

[lumina]

The Mars/Saturn-mp is a creepy one, it really is very often active in times of death.
On the other hand it is also active, when noone dies.

Actually my Sun is exactly square my Mars/Saturn-mp on 26 Virgo. I believe Mars/Saturn can also speak about hard but constructive work, building something with energy and dedication, if the two can work together.

[lumina]

Ava

Draco transits. interesting. 


"Transiting draconic sun @ 16 Aries, exactly on my draco Venus and tropical Jupiter. So that seems like a "yes, this will happen."



Transiting draconic Venus @ 2 Gemini conjunct his natal Jupiter. MORE Venus-Jupiter, I'd say that's another "yes."
"
I love the  symmetry of this, for you a male symbol coming from the outside (transiting) to your tropical Jupiter. 
a female coming to his. It bears the marks of Jupiter I think, that should be promising. 


"His draco EVC Mercury @ 19 Pisces, see all that above....this seems to suggest communication anyway. If only a formal cancellation (Pisces, land of disappointment. lol)
"
Or scheduling a date. 




"Objectively speaking, this looks promising for some kind of acknowledgment, rather than simply sliding back in the abyss, the way we were before.
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Yes, I agree. At least some acknowledgement. I really don`t understand why he doesn`t write anymore

[lumina]

BTW transiting Draconic Mars/Uranus-mp last friday: 10°38 Scorpio
our pr composite (tropical) Mars: 10°38 Scorpio 

(curiously enough my Draco Eros-Vertex falls onto 10-11 scorpio; his wife`s name, tropically, is on 11 Scorpio in his natal, their wedding chart`s Sun is on 12 Scorpio, his own Chiron is on 9 Taurus on the other side conjunct her Mars on 10 Taurus, just thought that was peculiar. I mean it was just a coffee and a nice chat, and certainly did not have anything to do with her or their marriage at all)

[lumina]

just for curiosity sake

my Draconic transits on friday (I used the time he left the comment to me and was asking me if I wanted to have a coffee with him)




his Draconic transits

[lumina]

Ava


"So the transiting draco sun-Mars opposition ran along his ASC-DSC and your draco ASC-DSC...
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You mean Moon-Mars? Yes, and Draco Mars on his Saturn. 





"Transiting draco sun hitting his draco Aries Mars-Jupiter and your draco sun, though not exactly, but sort of drawing it all together?
"
Who knows? 
Draco Mercury especially exact on his Draco Mars (both on 9 Aries) opposing my tropical Pluto on 9 Libra (and conjunct his tropical Ceres on 7 Aries)


TYour draco Saturn on his draco Ceres in Scorpio (still Martian) and you were concerned about the early life of his puppy.

Yes, and it seems DRaco transiting Neptune was there as well. 








"That thing is moving slowly. Anyway our composite Venus is @ 9 Scorpio.
"
That sounds potentially juicy. Well tentatively speaking, as I do not have any experience with transiting midpoints to be honest. But the closeness of Mars/Uranus on our pr composite Mars so exactly and then that day something really surprising and new happens, so I just thought it makes sense. 




"Go for a walk, hug goodbye, and we ignore each other happily ever after.



Is that really SO HARD? Geez
"
Yes, probably the ignoring happily ever after part? 
But I still believe you will get your walk and hug. 

[Ava]

LOL wow..........how funny!

lumina, you edited my post

Mercury Rx, you are a wild child!

[lumina]

Oh i am so sorry . But hey i still want to See that Chart and the evc's