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Post by Ava on Jan 13, 2018 21:40:27 GMT
So... I had a lightbulb moment reading about that part with Libra - which is my ASC and MC duad - not really standing out, or mostly just described as 'pretty' or 'charming'. Because it reminds me so much of the Classic style of clothing. www.truth-is-beauty.com/blog/style-identities-the-classic"In a Classic face, no one feature jumps out. The nose, eyes, mouth, chin, and forehead aren't remarkably large, or remarkably small, or noticeably close together, or noticeably far apart. Imagine you're a schoolyard bully: what nickname could you make up for that face? If you can't think of anything, you're likely looking at a Classic." Just super thrilled to see overlap between two very different things (astro and style identities). I related to the part of adapting to others as well, though I think that could be a combo with strong Pisces/Neptune/12th house influences, which I have. Been doing that since I was very young and not even on purpose, it just... happens. I guess? For the advanced astro people here, my ASC is in the Sagittarius duad and I relate a LOT to that description as well, especially personality/first impressions, but also having strong, muscular thighs & hips which are ruled by Sag. Jupiter in Cancer - lol I should watch out not to have Jupiter expand in eh... other areas. Stomach pretty much most of my body fat. Now I'm curious which sign would match each of these style identities best. That's a great site! I had fun trying to determine which look I am. My guess is... Dramatic - Leo/Aqua axis Natural - earth signs Gamine - Aries, Gemini, Cap, Sag Classic - Everyone except Gemini, Sag, and Aqua Ethereal - Aries? Romantic - Aries, Leo, Libra Ingenue - Aries/Libra A lot of these styles seem to reflect the preferences of one type of person...I wonder if the author of the site is an Aries? If someone described each sign to me and asked me to find photos to represent each type, my pictures would all look different and reflect my own style.
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Post by Ava on Jan 13, 2018 21:50:00 GMT
vgChart ruler probably is a significant factor in appearance, or presentation anyway. I think it all goes together. So if the chart ruler's in the 10th and you're noticing bone structure, because it's more attractive or pronounced than usual, that makes sense. MC conjunct Venus and modelling - yeah astrology works.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 4:38:47 GMT
What do you think Natalie Imbrugnia ‘s rising sign is?
I’m thinking Pisces
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Post by vds on Feb 13, 2018 22:57:29 GMT
Earth Signs = Poised Air Signs = limby creatures Fire Signs = well defined musculature if not, toned lookin bod no matter the weight Water Signs = can be bony and curvy, expressive eyes
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Post by geminiblues on Mar 1, 2018 6:07:22 GMT
Just started reading through this topic...
My contribution to Scorpio rising 1) We seem so dramatic, especially in or to the public, because of our Leo Midhaven. 2) We learn more by listening than by talking. More by watching than by acting. There's an old interrogation tactic to say nothing and the subject subconsciously needs to fill the silence. We're not exactly doing it on purpose. It's just how we make sure we're getting it right, learning to trust what you're saying. We like to be able to be sure about people. And love being right... 3) I'm quite surprised when I learn that some find me intimidating. I don't find myself very intimidating at all...
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Post by vds on Mar 1, 2018 15:34:45 GMT
Just started reading through this topic... My contribution to Scorpio rising 1) We seem so dramatic, especially in or to the public, because of our Leo Midhaven. 2) We learn more by listening than by talking. More by watching than by acting. There's an old interrogation tactic to say nothing and the subject subconsciously needs to fill the silence. We're not exactly doing it on purpose. It's just how we make sure we're getting it right, learning to trust what you're saying. We like to be able to be sure about people. And love being right... 3) I'm quite surprised when I learn that some find me intimidating. I don't find myself very intimidating at all... That's Leo MC = leaving an impression. But I think you would need more planets in Leo/fire, in order for a Scorpio Asc to be seen as dramatic. Scorpio Ascs are quiet.
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Post by Ava on Mar 1, 2018 15:59:13 GMT
My ex, Leo sun-Mercury with Scorpio rising, said to me once, "You remember me in high school. I was beige. Nobody knew me, I'd just blend in."
Only when I got very close to him did he reveal his secret life, which was quite extraordinary and unexpected.
Never really saw the drama in him except, he'd wear red t-shirts occasionally. Honestly seemed more Scorpio than Leo....
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Post by Ava on Mar 1, 2018 16:03:20 GMT
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Post by Ava on Mar 1, 2018 16:14:36 GMT
@theunknown
On page 4, I had said:
"It seems Pisces ASC people smile more than usual, or they smile at odd times, which gives me a sense that they know how to be fully present...as if their attention drifts and then comes really strongly into focus again, to compensate. Maybe I'm imagining things but it seems they are spiritual, and their joy doesn't seem to exactly match what's going on in the interview; it's as if it just comes from somewhere beyond. (And that matches the conversation Oprah and Whitney had about her voice being a gift from God...something from out of this world.) Also I noticed that relationships are a major theme here, and there is an emphasis on social dynamics, bringing up other people even when it's not expected or necessary. I notice that because it's similar to my Pisces moon, a bit of a codependent streak, where we need someone else to anchor us, or we need someone to serve like a mirror, as if we're not even real without that. So maybe that's another meaning of the two fishes."
Watching bits of those clips, I'm reminded of why I said that.
So, aside from the obvious traits of friendliness, apparent openness, accomodation, gentle tones in the voice...several times I'm seeing her with a "resting smiley face" that I'm starting to associate with Pisces ASC.
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Post by geminiblues on Mar 6, 2018 8:20:28 GMT
That's Leo MC = leaving an impression. But I think you would need more planets in Leo/fire, in order for a Scorpio Asc to be seen as dramatic. Scorpio Ascs are quiet. Moon in Leo apex of a Neptune Jupiter T square, or grand square if you include psyche in Aqua My ex, Leo sun-Mercury with Scorpio rising, said to me once, "You remember me in high school. I was beige. Nobody knew me, I'd just blend in." Hmmm... There are times for me. Like, I can walk into any building unchallenged if I'm wearing a pizza joint t-shirt and carrying a pizza. Nothing to notice. Just a pizza guy. Walking into the OR with a pizza. Or the computer guy. Sitting at the CEO's computer. "Hey Bobby, can you look up someth... Hey, you're not Bobby...". Pay no attention to me, I know what I'm doing so I must belong here . Always thought it was my Neptune in first though. OTOH, I made the observation in high school that more kids knew me than I knew them. Hard truth to swollow for a Gemini, right? Maybe that's how to explain the t square. The two sides of noticed/not noticed. Neptune and Jupiter alternatingly affecting that leo moon at the top of the chart. But I've wandered far afield from the ASC topic. Dangers of posting when I can't sleep...
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Post by Ava on Mar 6, 2018 14:28:06 GMT
^ geminiblues "I made the observation in high school that more kids knew me than I knew them." You must've been popular. I tend to think I'm invisible and no one's paying attention to me; I have this imaginary magic cloak. (ASC trine Neptune? 12H Saturn?) It can be startling if you think you're hiding in plain sight and then someone speaks to you as if you're 3D. Part of my secret is simply not moving. I even breathe shallow. My husband complains he can never find me in a crowd. I'm evil about that, I'll just sit and watch him staring RIGHT AT ME, but not registering that it's me. I don't move, blink, wave. I've dematerialized. Then as he starts to look frantic I go up to him "out of nowhere." hehehe This just happened the other day, I find it hilarious. Someday I'll grow up. Maybe.
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Post by minceymouse on Mar 6, 2018 15:36:22 GMT
AvaYou become old when you decide to grow up! I can do a little bit of both- stand out, or blend in. Guessing that's the pisces in me.
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Post by Ava on Mar 6, 2018 17:41:51 GMT
minceymouse"You become old when you decide to grow up!" Cheers to that! I'm NEVER getting old then!
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Post by vds on Mar 11, 2018 22:39:19 GMT
On topic: I have found this online and the description of my rising sign and those of my children fits. Aries Rising | head pokes forward, pugnacious stance (like a boxer) talks fast and/or clipped, can’t hide boredom or impatience. | Taurus Rising
| juicy looking, like they make more collagen than normal people, cow-eyes, moves slowly, big-bonded | Gemini Rising | tends to being thin, the ladies like things that jangle, fidgets, flings random talk bombs into the conversation just to change the subject. | Cancer Rising | Bony and/or muscular with bulbous eyes, often remains super quiet and then when they open their mouth, it’s a quality statement. | Leo Rising | looks and acts just like a cat, sometimes has flat face & big mane, a la a Lion. Can crack a tantrum when attention is off them. | Virgo Rising | quick, effective movements, like a martial artist or dancer, nimble, thrums with nervous energy. Likes to impart useful info. | Libra Rising | they look like the elves in The Hobbit, symmetrical features, easily disturbed by discordant or coarse environments. They just bolt. Possibly with your partner. | Scorpio Rising | if the person looks like a vampire or descendent of aristocratic but vaguely evil New Orleans Witch dynasty suspect Scorpio Rising. | Sagittarius Rising | loud, long legs & a ready laugh + they’re always just back from some place exotic or going some place exotic soon. | Capricorn Rising | mournful countenance in repose but lights up beautifully, cheekbones, seriously good strategic planner & likes one-upmanship. | Aquarius Rzising | if they seem like they could plausibly be an alien or a walk-in, suspect Aquarius Rising. Also: hates jewellery, body clutter, small talk, most traditions. | Pisces Rising | Goo-goo eyes, good skin, deceptive air of bland innocence – fluctuates alarmingly between hyper-gush/you-are-my-soulmate and genuinely not giving a shit . |
This is by Mystic Medusa.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 22:51:02 GMT
I love Mystic Medusa! I don't really agree with her Aquarius rising description, but I very much relate to the Virgo rising one.
There's a picture of my boyfriend when he was younger and the Scorpionic, vampiric energy just radiates from that photograph. I should scan it and post it someday.
My mom is a Gemini rising and all of that is true with the exception of being thin (love you, mom)
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Post by vds on Mar 14, 2018 18:21:50 GMT
I love Mystic Medusa! I don't really agree with her Aquarius rising description, but I very much relate to the Virgo rising one. There's a picture of my boyfriend when he was younger and the Scorpionic, vampiric energy just radiates from that photograph. I should scan it and post it someday. My mom is a Gemini rising and all of that is true with the exception of being thin (love you, mom) She is breath of fresh ASTRO air. 😁 Come to think of it, I think I havw been reading her for the longest. Aqua risings - square jaws, light in eyes, strong calves. And bless her for giving us, Libra Risers, such an inventive description. Was getting tired of all "nice and good gal" takes on it.
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Post by Karka Queen on Mar 14, 2018 19:54:44 GMT
Admittedly, I don't know much about the other rising signs since I've only taken time to study 1 so far but my following observations:
Scorpio risings and Capricorn risings can look similar and frankly, are similar.
Both of these signs have affinity for Mars. Mars finds its home in Scorpio and is exalted in Capricorn, thereby having its qualities exemplified by the latter sign.
With the Melancholic humor and Cardinal type of Capricorn, the people tend to be more stoic and cautiously skeptical and pessimistic, also they behave quite like the "boss" and tend to be sardonic, even if they don't necessarily appreciate dark humor. Good example: Naomi Campbell
With the Phlegmatic and Fixed type of Scorpio, they can appear stoic like Capricorn rising but they're far more emotional, also I find them more personally involved in things and not able to detach themselves as well as Capricorn Risings. They're too moved by their beliefs. Good example: Prince
Physically? Both have stern, unmoving gazes that can look intense and intimidating. Both can have particularly deepset eyes, so I don't really know how to separate them. My only guess would be that Cap ASC is more bony as in, has more prominent cheekbones, collarbones, as opposed to Scorpio ASC.
But these subtle nuances are hard to detect if you're just going off face and not how they talk, what they wear, and anything else for example.
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Post by Karka Queen on Mar 14, 2018 22:34:03 GMT
BTW, where your Ascendant ruler is.... is VERY VERY important. It changes the "flavor" of the ASC sign a lot, actually.
And as unsaid it is, the houses aren't conflated with the signs' traits, and especially not the planets.. so for example, a ASC ruler in the third house [which is what I have] doesn't mean I'll act like a Gemini ASC, not necessarily, I'm still very Capricorn ASC, but I do fidget around a lot and I'm quite mentally active. I also like to debate and keep people on their toes.
I'm also a very very quick learner and can absorb any environment and subject. However I didn't fit in with my peers and didn't have a good experience growing up in school, cause Saturn being there and all..
A Capricorn ASC with her or his ASC ruler in the 8th will be different from this.
This is a helpful tip for rectifying charts too.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 14:51:31 GMT
Ava What rising sign do you think would represent someone always "lunging forward" in their photos? Always turning their head down a bit and looking into the camera with a full bore stare (kind of like 1940's Lauren Bacall). If they're in pictures with others, their body is positioned slightly in front of the other person, almost like a body guard or something?
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Post by Ava on May 4, 2018 2:13:43 GMT
athena, sorry! I don't know. Never mastered this ability or even came close. I clicked a few videos in each of the signs to see if there was any group where everyone was leaning forward, but I didn't find that....I just found a lot of now-defunct links that I need to repair. Anyone else have any ideas?
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