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Post by Ava on May 27, 2018 15:22:07 GMT
What are they? This is an effort to pool some ideas together. Please toss in any ideas you have or critique my lists as you see fit. Thank you! For starters, a few cut-and-paste sets to plug in at astro.com: Ten asteroids for effortless luck: 151 Abundantia 92891 Bless 10028 Bonus 19 Fortuna 39382 Opportunity 2878 Panacea 2791 Paradise 6568 Serendip 258 Tyche 1282 Utopia 151, 92891, 10028, 19, 39382, 2878, 2791, 6568, 258, 1282 See also: astrogarden.proboards.com/thread/5/winning-lottery-research-threadTen asteroids for conscious effort, clear vision and/or divination:Careful what you wish for, it may come true.... 8435 Anser 642 Clara 58534 Logos 2696 Magion - everyone needs a little magic 55 Pandora 50000 Quaoar - natural order 896 Sphinx 249521 Truth 3402 Wisdom 7707 Yes 8435, 642, 58534, 2696, 55, 50000, 896, 249521, 3402, 7707 'Might want to steer clear of Neverland (5405) Ten gods or goddesses to call upon for help: Can't hurt, can it? 1388 Aphrodite 1862 Apollo 76 Freia - link2415 Ganesa - good luck god w/ the elephant head 100 Hekate - link - more than witchcraft 7 Iris - personification of the rainbow 3241 Yeshuhua 4227 Kaali 2 Pallas - "Pallas asks us to honor that we co-create all of life's experience." -- link580 Selene -- link1388, 1862, 76, 2415, 100, 7, 3241, 4227, 2, 580 === Relevant articles: 1. This one discusses spiritual alchemy: Asteroid Goddesses and the Mystic Way: Models of Spiritual Transformationwww.astro.com/astrology/aa_article150402_e.htm2. This one's about Saturn and Neptune (I'll get into this more in a later thread... whisperix, I haven't forgotten!): www.astroshaman.com/an-astrological-signature-for-the-law-of-attraction/
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 19:40:57 GMT
Ava , really like the list of asteroids for effortless luck. Bonus is a new one for me. Thanks. I would add Felicitas (109) to the list: "In ancient Roman culture, felicitas (from the Latin adjective felix, "fruitful, blessed, happy, lucky") is a condition of divinely inspired productivity, blessedness, or happiness." - Wiki Some suggestions could form a careers list. Asteroid for careers/ opportunity (39382) Enterprise 9777 Industria 389 Academia 829 Talent 33154 Another asteroid for Truth Veritas 490 Given that there are so many God asteroids, your list forms a handy list for LOA. I would personally replace Kaali with Parvati (2847) - she is the loving/compassionate face of Kaali. Parvati is the one I would prefer to ask for help . Really useful link to the article on the astro.com site.
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Post by Ava on May 27, 2018 23:43:05 GMT
Thanks so much, @astrokeen!
Your asteroids in cut & paste list form:
109, 39382, 9777, 389, 829, 33154, 490, 2847
I guess I've favored Kaali because it's widely conjunct my north node in Scorpio. Maybe I've been prejudiced and not so objective about it. Need to research and think more.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 0:44:30 GMT
I have some very encouraging placements with the fortune asteroids. But these probably come with lessons to learn or with losses, I think, since they form hard aspects to key planets.
Firstly this stellium in the 12th, Leo Midas 0°37' Hyperborea 1.6 - a fabulous realm of eternal spring Panacea 1.15 Uranus 2.15
The above square these in the 3rd, Scorpio Felicitas 0.17 Karma 0.18 Sun 1.35
Then Fortuna conjunct Moon in 7th, Aqua Moon 22.18 Fortuna 22.25
square Saturn 21.11 in 4th, Sag And square Tyche 22.2 in 10th, Tau
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 13:24:20 GMT
I just realised that on the last 3 occasions where I acquired money, it happened because of a loss through theft or an accident. These were followed by insurance claims or, in one instance, compensation by a bank on whose premises the theft occurred. So, I lost inherited jewellery but the compensation came in very handy indeed. It was like winning a lottery with a sting in its tail. I invested the money and it helped me over many years. I wonder if the squares listed above are indicative of these events. Ava , this isn't exactly LOA material but interesting nonetheless. I could delete if you think it kinda defeats the purpose of this thread.
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Post by Ava on May 28, 2018 15:05:26 GMT
Oh it's perfect @astrokeen! Great story and matching astrology. I'm sorry you lost your inherited jewelry, though!
I have Tyche, Hyperborea, and Porta Coeli on my sun. Always felt that if I actually honored my sun, I might be able to earn some serious money.
But I've got my SN in the 10th house, NN in the 4th, trine my 8H Pisces moon....it's been tricky, being a Capricorn. Too busy being all caught up in mystical things, taking care of my kids, and being a hermit.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 16:00:55 GMT
I tried to see that the loss of my inheritance had been translated into something more practically useful - thus a blessing from previous generations. Ava, those wonderful asteroids at your Sun represent spiritual gifts and the good fortune of having those.
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Post by whisperix on May 29, 2018 10:33:04 GMT
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Post by whisperix on May 29, 2018 10:36:44 GMT
I can add a list of fixed stars
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Post by whisperix on May 29, 2018 11:27:49 GMT
lets see... I have
Logos bQ Jupiter
Magion Oppositon to Mars
Pandora Sextile Neptune
Quaoar Conjunction Mercury
Sphinx Sesquisquare Mars
Truth Square Pluto Quincunx Neptune Trigon Mercury Sextile Moon
Wisdom Semisquare Neptune Trigon MC It is interesting to see that my Mercury is the release point of my yod on one hand and on the other hand it has some connections to these asteroids.
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Post by whisperix on May 29, 2018 11:30:09 GMT
@astrokeen
I appreciate your posts and I liked to read it.
Maybe a disharmonious aspect indicates a different experience.
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Post by Ava on May 30, 2018 17:31:05 GMT
Haha that is so cute, thanks And this fixed stars list is excellent! My Jupiter conjunct Alpheratz and it specifies, that's a good place for Jupiter..."favorable for gain." I thought so! My daughter's ASC is exactly on Alpheratz and she is one of the great blessings of my life.
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Post by Ava on Jun 1, 2018 19:52:32 GMT
Ava , those wonderful asteroids at your Sun represent spiritual gifts and the good fortune of having those. Thanks, Astrokeen. I had to give this some thought. I have insecurities about my spiritual condition, and feel like I am always so far from "the optimal range" of human experience, lacking discipline and clarity, and so on. But maybe those asteroids on my sun indicate the way that I am always searching for some form of heaven on earth, and paying attention to those teachers who have found it, one way or another. Sometimes it's even too heartbreaking for me to hear about those realms accessible to the "privileged"....because I don't have that access...feels a bit like spiritual exile. But I'm grateful to at least feel drawn in that direction.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 22:23:20 GMT
But maybe those asteroids on my sun indicate the way that I am always searching for some form of heaven on earth, and paying attention to those teachers who have found it, one way or another. Sometimes it's even too heartbreaking for me to hear about those realms accessible to the "privileged"....because I don't have that access...feels a bit like spiritual exile. But I'm grateful to at least feel drawn in that direction. Yep! Others always seem to reach levels one only aspires to. It IS galling to say the least. You may be amused to know that you and Violets are ones whom I rate as those others. You've often spoken of sensing a past life or a presence or info intuitively. I do wish I could. Being on a spiritual quest in India brought me into contact with many with astonishing abilities: healers, clairvoyants and meditators who could access visions and other realms easily. I met quite a few people who could see my chakras as clear as day. And i wondered how many lifetimes it would take me to evolve to that level. The thing is I fail to appreciate and forget experiences (a few) that I have had. I always see another as having communication lines to spiritual realms and intuition which completely bypass me. More recently, and completely out of the blue, I experienced a dark night of the soul, which, as it turns out. is treading the same ground as Eckhart Tolle and many more. I am now excited to see how the journey will unfold. www.eckharttolle.com/newsletter/october-2011What you long for and feel is out of your reach is not so at all. Firstly, to feel that way is (as you rightly sense) a huge advantage. The importance of our spiritual struggles only seems to become apparent in retrospect. I remember how in my teens I was deeply disappointed in my efforts with particular types of meditation - that resulted in me forsaking those teachers and gurus and thank goodness I did. My path was not be to subservient to another's mind, that is follow teachings obediently even if they emerged from so called 'enlightened' souls. There was no merit in that. Also, by finding teachers or their teachings wanting in some way, I developed my critical faculties and the confidence to cast aside notions that don't suit. I often wonder if I had access to states of samadhi, also referred to experience of non-duality, i.e., perceiving myself as one with the universe and God, would I continue with the work that I do? I expect my life would change dramatically - I would live in this world but yet be removed from it and perhaps be of no use to anyone.
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Post by Ava on Jun 2, 2018 13:42:38 GMT
Thank you @astrokeen. You make great points. "Also, by finding teachers or their teachings wanting in some way, I developed my critical faculties and the confidence to cast aside notions that don't suit." Yes, same here! It's gratifying to check in with our inner resources, to feel like we have the inner tools that we need to determine whether something is true and good for us, or not. I remember one day, I locked myself in my room and was writing all day, trying to figure out how to orient myself with respect to religion, astrology, mysticism. "Revelations" came to me one after another, as I put myself in a position to really listen to my heart and sort it out. I came out of that process with new convictions that have served me well, I think. I adore Eckhart Tolle. Dark nights of the soul have shaped my whole life, and I often try to see in others, whether or not they've touched base with ground zero or rock bottom yet, and how long they've spent there....might be my Scorpio NN, I am always curious about that range of human experience, ie "How did it feel when everything fell apart?" Because part of myself is still there. I think time conceptions don't quite fit when it comes to the psyche, I still have those broken parts, they come alive again and again through dreams or at certain times. In a way my life has been shaped by the negative spaces, the early loss of my mother being the most defining, though I couldn't really see that in the moment, it's only through time and reflection that I understand. " I would live in this world but yet be removed from it and perhaps be of no use to anyone." I believe there's no such thing as that, as we share energy via the oversoul, and the quality of each person affects the whole. And even by our intentions, vibrations, personal warmth, way of speaking, we can reach and heal each other. Once I was at an amusement park, waiting in line at a concession stand. There was a group of people around me, they all wore matching T-shirts and were speaking a kind of inner-city dialect. Whatever they were saying, I don't recall the specific content, but the enthusiasm in their voices and the literal heat coming off their bodies as they affectionately engaged with each other, collectively...that power had a healing effect on me, to the extent that I was wishing I could just smuggle myself in with them and not have to be apart again. lol It's amazing, what simple energy does. This conversation, I appreciate it, it feels anchoring and explorative all at once. Speaking of gifts, not to make a contest of anything, but you are far more open-minded than me, I've seen that all along. Your intellectual bravery and sense of adventure is a great gift to this community and one of the things holding it together! So thanks!!
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Post by jerymcd on Feb 27, 2021 12:19:00 GMT
Personally, I perceive the influence of the heavenly bodies to manifest due, in part, to gravity but also other factors (light output or reflection, for example) and Asclepius is extremely close to Earth - it has almost hit us at least once, to my knowledge, probably more times. I think the combination would indicate an influence, but that’s just me. I can totally understand the perspective of it being too small to truly have a hold over us.
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Post by Ava on Feb 28, 2021 14:46:52 GMT
Thanks for your thoughts jerymcd , nice to have you here. Since I created the list in the OP, my thinking has changed a bit. Now I believe emotional intensity is the prime determinant in manifestation. So asteroids associated with raw emotional energy might be more realistically effective (?) Not sure what those are but from experience I trust the strong influence of Pallas, Kaali, Hekate (listed above)...also The Fates... and Eros, Psyche, and Juno. I also wonder if the near-earth asteroids tend to have a more potent effect at close range.
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