Do you change when your maiden name changes?

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I rarely ever think about numerology but this train of thought keeps injecting itself into the forefront of my brain the past few days. 

For those of you who are married (or underwent a name change in general), did you feel different afterwards? 

The reason I ask is because even though I quite like my last name, I would be interested in changing it just because my numerology is so dry (excellent reason, I know  ). The ideal scenario to undergo this would be marriage (in my opinion). 

As it stands right now: 

My life path number is 4
My life destiny number is 4
My soul number is 4

Like, dude, am I Beyonce or something? Fours are SO DULL at that which explains my geriatric personality/hobbies. 

Anyway enough about me, tell me about yourself *clasps hands together like a curious therapist* 

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Also here is the link for those curious 

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Very interesting info, athena. Given that name change accompanies significant change in one's life, it may be difficult to extrapolate which changes can be attributed to the name. Or the name change simply fits in somehow. In my case, I changed to my married name and reverted to my maiden name when I got divorced. Again big changes each time, several years apart, where age and maturity (I hope) too would have contributed to the many differences. It would be interesting to see how the two compare - married and maiden name.

Maiden name
Life path - 11 - (lofty stuff, this)
Destiny -11
Soul number - 9
11 - "Yours is the journey of the Spiritual Messenger. You are meant to explore and come to understand life's spiritual mysteries." - love this bit. Certainly, my spiritual aspirations were somewhat put on hold while I was married. Making the darned thing work was such an enormous task.

Married name
Life path - 11
Destiny - 1
Soul number - 5

Makes sense for life path to be the same for both. The married set speaks more of struggles which is entirely accurate. Destiny 1 says "You will develop a very strong sense of self and force of will. Your courage will give you the confidence to take action while others may cower". I did develop a 'stronger' sense of self and opted for a divorce. Not sure whether others would have cowered in the face of this choice. Soul number 5 talks of wanting to be free of limitations. Exactly right in this instance. 

However, one could argue that the statements pertaining to each of these numbers are quite general. You could find a way to fit these to your situation.

[Ava]

LOL -- Beyonce

Thanks for the calculator, athena ! Wow, and there are readings, too.

Ok, so with my first, middle, and maiden name:

Life Path Number is 3
Life Destiny Number is 4
Soul Number is 1

And I got the same results switching my married name. Weird.

I was gonna say, I feel about the same as before. LOL

Maybe off topic.......not numerology, but about change:

My married last name is ethnically ambiguous, it sounds Italian but it's Slovakian.

What freaks me out is, there are thousands of people with my whole first name and maiden name. It's a standard Irish Catholic combination, like Mary O'Connell or Patrick Murphy.

But I am the *only* person with my first name and married last name. So if anyone wants to Google me, there is no question about it, it's me.

Paradoxically I am standing out because of my obscurity, and that is actually a real theme for my life since I've gotten married, I feel different than everyone else...I'm reluctant to join groups because I tend to end up notorious within them (LL) or people think I'm more normal than I am, and that makes me uncomfortable, since I never know how or when to burst their bubble.

That does compel me towards a #1 mentality: "Those with the number 1 as their soul number are fiercely independent and have a desire to lead others. With the exception of their own, they are not team players. Nor do they take orders well."

I don't MEAN to be independent, but that's what you have to do, as a social outcast. 

I have no desire to lead for ego thrills, but if I feel strongly that my ideas are sound, to the benefit of others, I'll want to act on them, and maybe that works, on a community level. 

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Paradoxically I am standing out because of my obscurity, and that is actually a real theme for my life since I've gotten married, I feel different than everyone else...I'm reluctant to join groups because I tend to end up notorious within them (LL) or people think I'm more normal than I am, and that makes me uncomfortable, since I never know how or when to burst their bubble.

Jesus can I relate to this. That's what I love about you, though - that Aqua Mercury truly at work! I've long since accepted that a group needs cohesion and conformity to work. It's an echo chamber more often than not. Think about some of our most indigenous tribes - how anyone that was a threat to group serenity was cast out so as not to disturb the peace. This is SO antithesis to the nucleus of Aquarian theology it's unreal. I cannot and will not do groups because in due time, I'm always that rot that needs to be cut out of the larger architecture at hand. I don't mind though, just wondering how the hell a mega 4 like me finds herself in such predicaments. 

Anyway you and @astrokeen had SUCH interesting insights and I'm effed on time today so I'll be back to fully absorb these brilliant nuggets of info ) 

[Ava]

AW thanks so much, athena <3

Sometimes I TRULY feel like a rebel without a cause. lol

Genius description up there, of the whole non-conformity problem. The Establishment needs us, we know they do, but we can only tolerate each other so much. Usually they appropriate our ideas and use them against us somehow, but I'm not living under a tinfoil helmet anymore, I'm just sayin.

[lumina]

athena

thanks for the calculator. And wow! this is interesting!

[lumina]

I am not married, but I was checking it nevertheless

my lifepath: 6
life destiny: 7
Soul: 5
personality: 2
maturity: 4 - this one is new for me and fascinating, as I always thought that these are the qualities I lack and need to develop
balance: 3

(Karmic Debst: 13, 14)

lucky number: 6
birth-day: 9


just checking P`s, too - I wonder if it means something if some numbers are the same, but in different areas, well Ia m sure it means something and opens a new area of interpretation. lol new for me anyway


lifepath: 3
destiny: 4
soul: 7
personality: 6
maturity: 7
balance: 8
lucky: 6
birthday: 1

[lumina]

So it seems, we have an exchange of destiny and maturity-number.

his desitny and my maturity: 4
my destiny and his maturity: 7 - well his soul number is also 7, so I guess he already has that trait.


Actually this is interesting.... if things had been different, way way different and I had ended up marrying him (not that I ever intended to. lol), I would have gotten this:


destiny: 4
soul: 11
personality: 2
maturity: 1
balance: 3


Interestingly what would have changed for me is that this would have really brought the 4 into my life. LOL (makes me think that probably that is one of the core things I am to learn in relation to him, even if not married. )

Also the union of soul and personality (11 is of course a form of 2).

Also my 5-soul becoming an 11 - soul, probably calming down considerably, and the thing is, even just as things are currently, it always amazes me why I do not get bored. I mean I have had my crushes and they were rather intense, but at some point I started feeling I figured it all out, the reasons and underlying stuff, and I lost interest. Or well, at least noone was ever interesting enough to keep my attention (I mean emotional attention) for a long time and in a fairly stable way.
So I`ve been waiting for that signal that shows me I am losing emotional interest, I am getting bored, I understand it all and there is nothing more to learn so time to move on soulwise, just it seems to never happen. At least not in recent years.

[lumina]

how odd is that?
I just was playing around and, hey, if we are mindplaying why not imagine him changing his last name to mine, after all my best friends husband did. (not really my preferred thing, but to each their own).

But the odd thing is that doing so his new destiny number is my basic destiny number then: 7, while if changing my last name into his, my new destiny number would become his basic destiny number 4.

Does that always happen?

[lumina]

May 8, 2018 20:36:56 GMT athena said:

 Fours are SO DULL at that which explains my geriatric personality/hobbies. 

I used to think so, too. Thank the lord, I am not a 4! (sorry, I really was thinking that when getting into numerology many many years ago). 

However I´ve since then converted, actually I´ve begun to appreciate and really admire the 4, there is such a groundedness to them, being centred and in touch with their physicality. That is fascinating! Not to mention they are able to handle all that mundane stuff, that does not just bore me, but it scares me! I mean I get around doing it, but I procrastinate until my fear of failure gets soo big, I will sit down and do it. And I manage to do then fairly well, but I could really make my life simplier if I just got to it EARLIER on SCHEDULE and following a STRUCTURE and ROUTINE. 
I envy people who can do that. (did I mention I get bored fairly quickly? At least with mundane stuff?) 

However for some years the physical has become rather fascinating to me, mostly cause I fail to really grap it I guess. It`s like I once took this chakra test and it said, everything in the loftier regions was open (actually it was sounding a warning that my crown chakra might be overactive. lol)  but what was firmly closed was the root and the sacral chakra. The most basic chakras, those are the ones that are usually at least slightly open by default! Just not in me obviously. 

Like my path was not really to follow a spiritual call or becoming all spiritual or even just imaginative (seems I was living there from the beginning), but in fact my path seems to take the reverse direction, urging me to re-connect with the earth and the physical. Not becoming aware of my spiritual Self, but feeling I`m "em-bodied". 

It is weird, right`?


But it resonates very very loudly. I mean I can do the mystic and the owl any day, any night, any minute, any moment in my life. I`ve lived and breathed and been that forever, it seems. 

But the 4? 
That is where the true mystery of life resides! At least for me.  

[anela]

My life path is a 4, too. I was very careful when I was younger, if I could drive, I would have been the one to drive drunk friends around. I worry about everything - but part of me hates that I've been stuck where I am. I wanted to travel, to have fun.

I remember reading about NN in Sadge, about us having a direct link to something (like intuition, god, or whatever), to follow our instincts, but mine have always been thwarted in some way, and I wonder if that's anything to do with the Mars square from the 4th. Ugh. Moon/Venus conjunct SN: I can hide away doing research/reading about things, but eventually I'll want to experience for myself. I'm not content to stay in daydreams, and it's frustrating. I don't even daydream anymore.

[anela]

May 10, 2018 18:27:25 GMT lumina said:

May 8, 2018 20:36:56 GMT athena said:

 Fours are SO DULL at that which explains my geriatric personality/hobbies. 

I used to think so, too. Thank the lord, I am not a 4! (sorry, I really was thinking that when getting into numerology many many years ago). 

However I´ve since then converted, actually I´ve begun to appreciate and really admire the 4, there is such a groundedness to them, being centred and in touch with their physicality. That is fascinating! Not to mention they are able to handle all that mundane stuff, that does not just bore me, but it scares me! I mean I get around doing it, but I procrastinate until my fear of failure gets soo big, I will sit down and do it. And I manage to do then fairly well, but I could really make my life simplier if I just got to it EARLIER on SCHEDULE and following a STRUCTURE and ROUTINE. 
I envy people who can do that. (did I mention I get bored fairly quickly? At least with mundane stuff?) 

However for some years the physical has become rather fascinating to me, mostly cause I fail to really grap it I guess. It`s like I once took this chakra test and it said, everything in the loftier regions was open (actually it was sounding a warning that my crown chakra might be overactive. lol)  but what was firmly closed was the root and the sacral chakra. The most basic chakras, those are the ones that are usually at least slightly open by default! Just not in me obviously. 

Like my path was not really to follow a spiritual call or becoming all spiritual or even just imaginative (seems I was living there from the beginning), but in fact my path seems to take the reverse direction, urging me to re-connect with the earth and the physical. Not becoming aware of my spiritual Self, but feeling I`m "em-bodied". 

It is weird, right`?


But it resonates very very loudly. I mean I can do the mystic and the owl any day, any night, any minute, any moment in my life. I`ve lived and breathed and been that forever, it seems. 

But the 4? 
That is where the true mystery of life resides! At least for me.  

I wish I were like that. I have a certain practicality to me, but I don't feel grounded anymore. My artwork used to help with that, I think, and having what used to be a good family/social support in that way. 

[anela]

May 9, 2018 20:11:34 GMT Ava said:

Paradoxically I am standing out because of my obscurity, and that is actually a real theme for my life since I've gotten married, I feel different than everyone else...I'm reluctant to join groups because I tend to end up notorious within them (LL) or people think I'm more normal than I am, and that makes me uncomfortable, since I never know how or when to burst their bubble.

I still have trouble seeing you that way, even though I've seen it happen (and had it happen to me). You usually deal with things much better than I do. I was polite for years, and now I'm just, "really?" in response to anything. 

When that rubbish happened at LL eight years ago, I was so mad, I kept arguing, but that was also because I was deflated. I thought I'd been making friends, thought I was handling myself better socially - it was all helping me "in real life" I also thought, only to end up with the same bullying crap online, and then at home. It took me right back to when I was suicidal at fifteen, and dropped out of school, and partly out of whatever stood for society. 

I used to be the one here for visitors, even though I hated having people stay in the house (it made me anxious). My sister would flit off to Canada to avoid most people, only staying for a couple of family members from England, when they visited. I didn't hide away, I did my part in keeping them company, and yet now I'm treated like a plague on the family. A few people have turned around on that, but just because I couldn't handle my aunt being here that one time, she says things like, "Now that another member of the family knows what you are" WHAT I am? She spreads her stupid theories around, and my dad tells her she's wrong, but nobody else has told her to cut the crap. My sister uses it to her advantage. Just... I regularly vent to nothing/whatever might be out there, telling them to eff off if they screwed with my life, because I chose to avoid sleeping with cheaters, tried to set boundaries (healthy ones), wanted therapy with my sister, etc.