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Post by Ava on Jan 14, 2018 16:03:53 GMT
I've never had the flu shot, nor the flu. Not that I'm aware of....I mean, I've never had the whole set of symptoms associated with the flu, at once. I won't get into vaccine politics but this is really blowing my mind: "Get ready, some medical experts are predicting the worst flu season in history" www.cnbc.com/2018/01/09/medical-experts-predict-worst-flu-season-in-history.htmlGrowing up, flu was no big deal, and we never had epidemics of it. Ever since the flu shot was invented, flu's considered a deadly threat, everyone's in hysterics about it. And yet, even with more people being vaccinated than ever, we have the worst flu season ever? My low-key self is not impressed with this state of affairs.
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Post by anela on Jan 14, 2018 18:34:46 GMT
Someone asked me the other day, if I'd had a flu shot. I said no, that I take a lot of turmeric in food, and that seemed to help me avoid getting viruses. She asked if I wash my hands a lot, and I said I do. I've been teased for years, about how much I wash my hands. I soap up more than once, but am kind of OCD about it, so I don't do it all the time when I'm out.
Dad has never had a flu shot, but said he might get one this year, since everyone's talking about it (and because of his age). Two years ago, he told a doctor, the old, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." That sentence makes me grit my teeth, but that's the saying. I hate on the Walking Dead, how they say they got "bit" instead of that they were bitten.
I have baobab powder in the cupboard. That's apparently loaded with vitamin C. I need to take it more often.
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Post by anela on Jan 14, 2018 19:44:40 GMT
My dad's usual fix is a lot of orange juice, and he eats potato chips. He takes cold medicine, too, but I'm not so fond of that, unless it helps me sleep. It doesn't seem to help otherwise.
One idea to keep hydrated is something called DripDrop. I heard about it just before mum went into the hospital, and tried it that first week she was in there. I don't drink enough water, anymore (I used to drink it a lot), and that might be one other thing that has helped. I don't drink it every day, but it does make me feel better. It's more expensive than gatorade, but created by medical professionals - it's the drink alternative of an IV.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 21:42:41 GMT
It's interesting, but here in the UK it seems a lot of people in my office are getting sick. In fact, they even call the flu here "Australian" flu. I just learned that today LOL. Seems someone from Australia must have brought it. I haven't been affected yet and I hope I won't either. I've never had a flu shot nor do I plan to ever get one. I'll let my immune system do what it was made to do. So far so good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 12:49:26 GMT
Im in ireland and we were told about this Australian flu as well. I think someone died from it. Everyones been advised to get the vaccine. I dont like medicines in all honesty I avoid them and never got it before but got one today, just in case.
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Post by Ava on Jan 15, 2018 17:44:49 GMT
Thanks for your replies! I'm always wondering what other people are thinking about this whole state of affairs.
I avoid doctors as much as I can, and nobody really cares, because it's my body and my own business. So if I say, "I never go in for routine diagnostic tests" the worst someone can say is, that's reckless towards my children. "If they catch it early, they can treat it!" I just do a lot of things to ward off cancer, I fight it every day, before it starts.
So it bugs me that there are media campaigns out there that target me and call me "unsafe," because I don't get all these vaccines. There doesn't seem to be an end to it, either. It seems there is a trend towards convincing adults to re-immunize ourselves with several of the vaccines given to children: chicken pox, MMR, etc.
Before, I could stay away from doctors and it was my own business.
Now, I feel like people are getting into my business, telling me what I have to do, and judging me like they never would have before.
I think it bothers me that people can be conditioned so easily.
^ Conditioned to turn judgmental, I mean. I'm just seeing judgments where they weren't made before, not until a few years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 18:38:28 GMT
Media, unfortunately, really has a strong influence on people's perceptions, whether or not people will like to admit it. Pretty much all of us get influenced to some extent, some more than others. If the media wants to tackle an issue from a certain vantage point to fulfil its agenda, it will, and the masses will follow, even if the same masses like to think of themselves as independent thinkers. At the end of the day, if we try to inform ourselves of world events, other than the media, we basically have very limited alternative options (unless we experience something first-hand), so I can't blame the majority for being swayed.
Well, it's clearly a very long and complex topic. Nevertheless the media can effectively instil fear in people (such as urging people to get vaccinations), which can in turn cause lots of judgment to be cast around. It's really, really hard to get to the bottom of things and know the real truth cause the media can paint a certain picture. Maybe this season's flu isn't actually that bad, but the media will fear monger. In the end, how does one find out how bad it really is (or isn't)?
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Post by anela on Jan 15, 2018 19:44:44 GMT
Thanks for your replies! I'm always wondering what other people are thinking about this whole state of affairs. I avoid doctors as much as I can, and nobody really cares, because it's my body and my own business. So if I say, "I never go in for routine diagnostic tests" the worst someone can say is, that's reckless towards my children. "If they catch it early, they can treat it!" I just do a lot of things to ward off cancer, I fight it every day, before it starts. So it bugs me that there are media campaigns out there that target me and call me "unsafe," because I don't get all these vaccines. There doesn't seem to be an end to it, either. It seems there is a trend towards convincing adults to re-immunize ourselves with several of the vaccines given to children: chicken pox, MMR, etc. Before, I could stay away from doctors and it was my own business. Now, I feel like people are getting into my business, telling me what I have to do, and judging me like they never would have before. I think it bothers me that people can be conditioned so easily. ^ Conditioned to turn judgmental, I mean. I'm just seeing judgments where they weren't made before, not until a few years ago. I've had people ask me here and there, why I don't go to the doctor for my stomach condition. Aside from being too anxious whenever I think about it, it's mainly because I'm in groups online, where people have something similar going on, and they're mostly in much worse shape than I am. When I can't stop getting sick, I drink water until I do - until the stomach is calmed. I figure I get some hydration that way. I take a couple of supplements, like the turmeric, although I'm behind on everything - I need to get back to taking collagen every day. Some people have diabetes or other things going on, but you wouldn't believe how many people end up the ER because they're dehydrated (one reason I sip DripDrop). I felt my best when I was on juice/smoothies/tea/soup, probably because I was fully hydrated. Some people have feeding tubes, they talk about having their stomachs removed, etc. Unless I'm missing something, I'm not nearly as bad off as they are. I think I'm doing okay. I just worry about my teeth. and, yeah: being judged over things, or having people make huge assumptions, is why I don't get into this stuff in person, usually. I was talking to someone this week, and told her that it doesn't always seem that important at the time/things resolve on their own, and so on (when it comes to getting things taken care of - I was trying to get my mum to see someone, at the time). I finally got another supplement over the weekend, that I've wanted to try for four years now - CoQ10 and L-Carnitine liquid. One woman said her little girl didn't get sick once she started taking it. I had the measles, mumps, and chicken pox when I was a kid, all before the age of eight, so I shouldn't need a vaccine.
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Post by Ava on Jan 20, 2018 4:08:28 GMT
It's pushy all-around. Well I haven't researched it too thoroughly but doctors have gone on record saying they are paid according to the number of vaccines they can sell, that their practice's livelihood depends on a high vaccination rate, and they are financially manipulated by Big Pharma to keep their number of totally compliant patients at a certain percentage.
So, against this Machine, mothers' concerns about their children and their reactions, it doesn't matter, we're steamrolled.
So I have middle fingers for all of that.....
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Post by anela on Jan 20, 2018 6:38:34 GMT
If I had kids, I would stagger them, too. I wanted to do that with my dogs (my previous ones were unvaccinated, except for rabies shots, unless they sneaked them in without telling us before), but my latest were both fully vaccinated at the pound, and dad wants to get them both boosters. I don't want to get them for another year, but dad is insistent. Not that Ell is doing any chasing of animals now - a couple of years ago, when mum was in the hospital that first week, he grabbed baby raccoons, two nights in a row and got a late-night bath because he was sprayed. Those poor babies. I wish I could train them not to chase.
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Post by anela on Jan 20, 2018 6:41:14 GMT
I still haven't got sick, but that woman who was posting about the golden milk and such, just got hit with a bad cold, or the flu. She's out around people a lot more than I am.
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Post by Ava on Jan 20, 2018 15:51:10 GMT
There have been fatalities associated with flu vaccination, but of course, it's impossible to really prove a direct connection: people.com/human-interest/12-year-old-boy-dies-after-flue-screening-negative/Flu vaccines are among the few that still contain thimerosal (the multi-dose vials do). The CDC says thimerosal breaks down to ehtylmercury and is safe, and quickly leaves the body. I can't see how any form of mercury is safe, and the evidence that it leaves the body isn't convincing. It's great that the body excretes the stuff, but it also sequesters toxins in fatty tissue including the brain. Even pro-Establishment wikipedia says ethylmercury's safety is unknown, countering the CDC. I don't mean to be scary about it, obviously most people are fine, but we shouldn't be forced into dealing with shady stuff like this. It shouldn't take a genius to see that they should stop injecting people with mercury, period. Whoever gets the final dose of those multi-dose vials is going to take a heavy hit of a toxin, and it's simply unethical. They should fix that.
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Post by anela on Jan 24, 2018 4:01:36 GMT
I feel like I'm getting an ear infection. :/ It had that interference in it, when I was out tonight, and I'm slightly congested. I haven't been taking anything, but I made chicken soup last night. It's in the fridge. I guess I'll be making a couple of turmeric things, and if I wake up sick, they will be right there.
I keep forgetting to take my Vitamin D, too. A friend said a couple of years ago, that she took a megadose of Vitamin D, and it chased off a cold, or the flu. I took it during a cold that only really lasted five days, two years ago this month. I was also eating that sprouted routes lentil soup, and taking a bit of coconut oil every day (because it cleared my head, and gave me some energy).
I also need to start taking that nettle again. It has vitamin D in it, apparently, along with Vitamin C and everything else. Iron, too. It's a such a simple little thing to take, if it helps. Outshone by the latest superfoods.
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Post by justjuni on Jan 24, 2018 17:05:55 GMT
If I had kids, I would stagger them, too. I wanted to do that with my dogs (my previous ones were unvaccinated, except for rabies shots, unless they sneaked them in without telling us before), but my latest were both fully vaccinated at the pound, and dad wants to get them both boosters. I don't want to get them for another year, but dad is insistent. Not that Ell is doing any chasing of animals now - a couple of years ago, when mum was in the hospital that first week, he grabbed baby raccoons, two nights in a row and got a late-night bath because he was sprayed. Those poor babies. I wish I could train them not to chase. Hi anela and ladies I get the flu shot every year since I had the flu Victoria B flu (I think). It was a nightmare and I swore never again. Over the years I have developed chronic bronchitis so that is another reason the flu shot is taken. For good, bad or ugly, I am proactive with it. I also drink mega well water, take Rescue Remedy when stressed and EmergenC when I think I feel punky. anela, a distemper/parvo shot for our fur faces is strongly recommended. If you have ever seen a puppy/dog with parvo, you would never risk it again. We have fostered parvo puppies and so many suffer and die and never should. I am so happy to hear yours are healthy and always so loved !!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 19:48:20 GMT
Curious, but is it mandatory for a child to be vaccinated prior to attending school in the US?
When I was 9 years old living in NYC, before I could start school, I had to get vaccinated for a few things (as well as get my ears and eyes and whatever else tested). I remember hating it.
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Post by FruityLlama on Jan 24, 2018 20:41:43 GMT
Ive had that many vaccines and shots, the list is as long as my arm. Some I need for working in the medical (kind of) field anyway. So I hope there arent many side affects.. I will get another in Feb possibly if they have any in stock. Hep B is in short supply where I live and I need it for clinical placements. Im fully in support of them generally but there are different strands of flu every year so that does seem like a waste of time really. anela I am a ear person, has your ear improved?
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Post by anela on Jan 26, 2018 10:45:43 GMT
If I had kids, I would stagger them, too. I wanted to do that with my dogs (my previous ones were unvaccinated, except for rabies shots, unless they sneaked them in without telling us before), but my latest were both fully vaccinated at the pound, and dad wants to get them both boosters. I don't want to get them for another year, but dad is insistent. Not that Ell is doing any chasing of animals now - a couple of years ago, when mum was in the hospital that first week, he grabbed baby raccoons, two nights in a row and got a late-night bath because he was sprayed. Those poor babies. I wish I could train them not to chase. Hi anela and ladies I get the flu shot every year since I had the flu Victoria B flu (I think). It was a nightmare and I swore never again. Over the years I have developed chronic bronchitis so that is another reason the flu shot is taken. For good, bad or ugly, I am proactive with it. I also drink mega well water, take Rescue Remedy when stressed and EmergenC when I think I feel punky. anela, a distemper/parvo shot for our fur faces is strongly recommended. If you have ever seen a puppy/dog with parvo, you would never risk it again. We have fostered parvo puppies and so many suffer and die and never should. I am so happy to hear yours are healthy and always so loved !! Have you read What Vets Don't Tell You About Vaccines? I don't like giving them every year, and Ell can't walk anymore - although we have wheels for him. We just need to get him used to them. As long as he isn't going out, I don't want him getting anything. I don't trust giving them so often. I'm just as wary of herbal products, too. We had Ell to the vet for a UTI (What I'm hoping was just a UTI, and not kidney problems) just after the new year. I don't know how to get him used to the doggy wheels we got for him. He needs some kind of physical therapy, too - there was supposed to be a water therapy place close by.
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Post by Ava on Jan 30, 2018 20:54:41 GMT
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Post by anela on Jan 31, 2018 1:23:38 GMT
A few people were saying yesterday, to avoid emergency rooms, because that's where they, and others, were getting sick. And being around kids.
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Post by FruityLlama on Feb 1, 2018 15:34:40 GMT
I had to re read this thread after a lecture I just had I think one of the things to remember with stuff like this is that fear sells. The media will hype up and exaggerate anything if they think ppl will overreact and buy into that particular magazine or click on that website yknow. Flu isnt the biggest thing to worry about. I hope ppl know what I mean when I say that. It will only kill if someone is immunocompromised and has other stuff going on. There are far more "important" vaccines to get. But if its free ill take anything haha oh Ava what kind of cancer fighting stuff do you do/take? I heard tumeric and black pepper were good for tumours etc
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