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Post by hibiscus on Apr 16, 2020 5:37:12 GMT
12YearsABlob, thank you!!
Ava, I remember your ex soulmate too and how you thought you'd never speak to him again.. So that's awesome you reconnected! I'm very curious to hear how that came about?
The Cancer is originally from Japan (cool that you remembered that) but most of his family is in the US. We actually lived together briefly but then "broke up", which was part of the chain of events that got me sober. There were ups and downs after that but we still see each other and it's becoming apparent that we've been doing this too long for it to be just a meaningless fling type of situation. Although I still don't want to have too many expectations for the future. My Sun is 21 degrees, so the conjunction happened the day after my birthday. Honestly this year has been disappointingly uneventful so far but on the day of the conjunction I got really sick (I had traveled recently and think it's possible I actually had Covid but it didn't occur to me then since no one else was worried about it at the time), and now I feel that was a weird foreshadowing to the strange circumstances of this pandemic. Sort of just waiting for the dust to settle now.
lumina, I definitely remember you always had insightful input on synastry, transits.. pretty much all topics! Thank you and it's great to hear from you too!
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Post by Ava on Apr 19, 2020 23:37:08 GMT
Sorry hibiscus , I just saw this now. To tag me, use the name faith. Ava, I remember your ex soulmate too and how you thought you'd never speak to him again.. So that's awesome you reconnected! I'm very curious to hear how that came about? Thank you! I'm glad you remember. Yes I thought it was hopeless. Then one of our mutual friends from high school lost her father. I hadn't spoken to her in a long time. At the funeral, she told me that he wanted to talk to me, so I asked her to ask him to email me. I couldn't even believe this was possible. Seemed like a Twilight Zone. Eventually he contacted me, and we got together in person. He lives in another country but flew in to visit his family. (Strangely, most of his family moved to the same area I did, an hour from where we grew up, and in another state.) It was nothing like an affair, just talking, but those were great times. Eventually I asked if we could break contact because things like that can't last forever without getting more complex, more painful, verging on scandalous even if we weren't doing anything. He agreed, so it's technically over, with an understanding that we will probably talk sporadically in the future. He intends to move to this area, though...that was his plan before we even reconnected. One last challenge will be getting mentally adjusted to him living close by, while maintaining emotional distance. There were ups and downs after that but we still see each other and it's becoming apparent that we've been doing this too long for it to be just a meaningless fling type of situation. Although I still don't want to have too many expectations for the future. Aww...I'm happy you both still care, I like when emotions run that deep and a relationship lasts despite all the ups and downs. That's understandable, to not have expectations. Yet, it also seems like you two will keep going, like you did before. I hope you two are in a good place now, and you're happy. Do you pay attention to progressions and the progressed composite? My Sun is 21 degrees, so the conjunction happened the day after my birthday..... on the day of the conjunction I got really sick Oh I'm sorry to hear that! Coincidentally my friend born Jan 12th (day of conjunction) got very sick on her birthday and it lasted almost a month. Glad you both are well again! And I'm really happy you found our group. No more BS from Randall. Randall I hope you are reading, send my love to Ami, as always.
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Post by lumina on Apr 20, 2020 14:17:06 GMT
AvaThat Last sentence...🤣🤗❤️
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Post by hibiscus on Apr 22, 2020 11:55:46 GMT
Faith, I'm sure that would seem surreal but I'm so glad to hear you got to see him again! I think you're wise to know it would get more complex and painful if you kept in regular contact, but of course still difficult either way. Interesting about his family and plans to move to the area.. it seems fate has more in store in some way. I forget what your Venus sign is? I know with Aqua Venus I can sort of intellectualize any romantic connection into a "friendship" but that hasn't always or usually served me well in the long run lol. What's going on in your transits or progressed composite with him? I didn't realize my progressed composite Sun with the Cancer is going to move into the opposite sign (currently separating from Scorpio Pluto in 2nd house and will be switching to Taurus in 8th house, applying conjunction to Venus) in June actually. Progressed composite moon is in Pisces, soon to trine Pluto-Sun-Mercury and sextile Venus-Mars. I'm not sure I can really explain what's going on without going into way too much detail but things have recently taken a drastic turn for the better and I'm hoping that continues. But this was also both of our Saturn Returns (his Sun is 22 degrees Cancer and his Saturn is conjunct my Sun/opposite his Sun) so the stakes feel higher at this point. We have to make individual choices about our future paths but I remember always thinking if we were still in each other's life after this Return why wouldn't we try to do it together.. I just know there are a lot of variables so still trying to remain open to whatever unfolds. I actually went back to LL before finding this group to see who was still around, but there were still the same kind of weirdly religious, misogynistic posts and posters discussing the same kind of topics.. and I'm sorry to say I fell immediately back into those toxic debates. So there's definitely nothing of value for me in that and I'm very glad to be here
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Post by Ava on Apr 22, 2020 22:53:53 GMT
Hi hibiscus, My Venus just progressed into Aqua so maybe that will become more of an issue, being too much in my head...though my sun just progressed into Pisces and I think maybe I'm feeling that. I guess ideally they work together so I make smart decisions and don't go crazy. My progressed composite sun-Venus with my ex had just moved into Capricorn when he contacted me. Rather fitting for "turning a new leaf." There were a lot of things about the timing that I am fascinated with, like the eclipses taking place around the time we first met up: one squaring his nodes, then another squaring mine. And then the last time I saw him, my pr moon was conjunct his pr sun (for the first time since I met him almost 30 years ago.) There was an eclipse the day before your birthday this year, and that would have affected you and the Cancer...and this eclipse echoes the one in July 2018. I understand not wanting to spell everything out online but I'm curious if those eclipses marked turning points? I like your thinking about Saturn Returns. I really believe in those...they can be such breakthrough times. Best wishes to you both; it's not always easy, can be crushing, but it's like you get a chance to see life with new eyes afterward. Or it felt like that to me. This is just the weirdest time ever so it seems like every frame of reference is a little broken. I don't blame anyone for still visiting LL because some great people still show up, but I'm happy to be out of that atmosphere which felt suffocating and worse. Really glad to talk to you again and hear that you're okay.
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Post by hibiscus on Apr 23, 2020 8:03:19 GMT
thanks @astrokeen ! Sorry I'm also still figuring out how to do multiple quotes lol so for now I'm just bolding things.
My progressed composite sun-Venus with my ex had just moved into Capricorn when he contacted me. Rather fitting for "turning a new leaf." There were a lot of things about the timing that I am fascinated with, like the eclipses taking place around the time we first met up: one squaring his nodes, then another squaring mine. And then the last time I saw him, my pr moon was conjunct his pr sun (for the first time since I met him almost 30 years ago.)
It's amazing how accurate and revealing progressed composite's can be.. Crazy about the switching signs and your progressed moon on his progressed sun. Do you ever look for conjunctions in the Solar Return of the other person's personal planets conjunct your natal planets? Like for example his SR moon conjunction your natal Sun or the other way around.. I remember thinking that was always reliable too but it's been a long time since I've tested that theory.
There was an eclipse the day before your birthday this year, and that would have affected you and the Cancer...and this eclipse echoes the one in July 2018. I understand not wanting to spell everything out online but I'm curious if those eclipses marked turning points?
Hmm, sorry this is more like a timeline but looking back the whole summer of 2018 was the start of a rough patch. I remember being upset he didn't care if I got him anything for his birthday or something petty like that, which started an ongoing argument of sorts. The whole next year was bad actually, but we reconciled in July 2019. Then in November we had another disagreement and stopped talking completely, I really thought that might be the end.. But we had some really vulnerable and painful conversations in late December/early January which led to things being on better but still strained terms. We finally started seeing each other again in late February.
I find it interesting you say you didn't experience much with transit Pluto (maybe that means you were already evolved in those types of lessons).. but for me it's been all the cliches or power and control dynamics, the taboos of death and sex, crisis leading to re-birth, etc... Without going into detail lol my sex life with the Cancer has gotten kinkier (nothing extreme) since our last reconciliation in February, and I credit that as a big part of the improvement in the unspoken tensions between us.
I like your thinking about Saturn Returns. I really believe in those...they can be such breakthrough times. Best wishes to you both; it's not always easy, can be crushing, but it's like you get a chance to see life with new eyes afterward. Or it felt like that to me. This is just the weirdest time ever so it seems like every frame of reference is a little broken.
Right? I'm a realtor now and since prices had been rising significantly along with high buyer demand and lower interest rates.. a lot of people (myself included) had been predicting a crash sometime this year. It's why I put off buying my own place, which is part of the drama situation with the Cancer.. our ongoing considerations of living together and/or getting into business with each other. Anyway, I knew something would happen to the economy (especially considering the last recession hit the last time Jupiter was in Capricorn) but really wasn't expecting this! Now all bets are off it seems.
Eta, just another thought about the Pluto transit.. it was super influential but in a very freeing way, mostly it's been a lot of healing from past trauma. My last relationship before the Cancer literally gave me PTSD (the horrors of transit Pluto conjunct my Dsc) and I had issues to begin with from a dysfunctional childhood. So I've been in therapy and now getting certified to help others.. Anyway sorry now I'm just rambling but have a lot of extra free time currently lol
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Post by Ava on Apr 24, 2020 3:23:15 GMT
Hi again hibiscus Forgot to answer your question before - natally I have Venus conjunct Neptune in Sag. (Another funny thing with my ex, his progressed Venus and Neptune are conjunct mine, respectively. Years ago I knew he was heading into that and vaguely wondered what it meant. lol) "Do you ever look for conjunctions in the Solar Return of the other person's personal planets conjunct your natal planets?" No, I'm sorry, I'm negligent when it comes to checking return charts. Do you pay attention to those? If so, is anything on your mind about the current year? "I remember being upset he didn't care if I got him anything for his birthday or something petty like that, which started an ongoing argument of sorts. " That was probably right around the eclipse on July 12th? I think those can be separative or just pull up a bunch of deep psychological issues we don't even have a name for (oh, "impulses" is probably the word.) Coincidentally maybe, that eclipse was on the composite ASC with my husband and we were contemplating divorce for months afterward. "I credit that as a big part of the improvement in the unspoken tensions between us." I love how effective that can be, lol. Maybe it's because I have sun square Pluto natally, sun conjunct Pluto was not so bad? I had been through tr Saturn on my sun once and it was no good, and the second time around was also bad. Weird, because Saturn is supposed to like Caps and be good to us. (?) But that planet doesn't like me. That really sucks about the economy being a factor in your relationship but I love that you are a realtor and have a sense of what to do and when, to make the best choice. Do you have his birth time? If so, where is the composite IC...anything transiting the 4th house now? I wonder if that has any clues for what happens next. Edit: I missed your edit. So sorry to hear about PTSD...how wonderful you've been able to find healing. <3 Well I have mentally been going over certain things about myself and trying to communicate my issues but often feel like I'm just whining. I guess it's no wonder therapists get paid; regular people don't always want to listen to this stuff.
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Post by lumina on Apr 24, 2020 14:09:57 GMT
hibiscus not wanting to butt in or interrupt - but just wanted to say that I´ve found tight conjunctions of Solar Returns to natal planets in another`s chart (2-3 degrees most), especially the personal planets and angles, very telling. Actually just by looking at those in advance I often could say with whom I would have to do in the coming year and in what connections ther eprobably would be some sort of a "pause". It seems rather reliable (of course other things has to be taken into account like the progressed composite, transits to composite and synastric placements, the pr Moon hitting stuff, etc.), but yes, definitely worth a look.
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Post by anela on Apr 27, 2020 9:19:10 GMT
8th house for me, and Venus rules my 7th and 12th houses. I'm not looking forward to it. I still need to see a dentist, and I worry about more of my tooth chipping away. I've ordered some Vitamin D with K2 (liquid), and bought the slightly cheaper kind that had good reviews, but now wonder if I should cancel and get the Thorne research brand, despite it having an annoying dropper. This is one thing that affects me self-esteem wise. Then there is also any kind of friendship or relationship. I've been very depressed, and also have been trying to be careful with people. Still debating, but I've been calmer with it, and that might be partly due to Saturn being trine my Moon/Venus. 2012: I was getting beaten up by my sister, all of that surrounding her husband, and my forehead was split open a bit. But I made some great friends on a relationship forum that I'd joined two years before. They knew me from my posting here and there. I needed a board away from the other place, because my sister lurked, and also just because I was depressed there from the rubbish that had gone on. This other place had private boards, and I spent time just talking there, in off-topic threads. I don't remember much about the Spring of 2004. This was posted in a Gemini Moon group, and I can relate to it so much:
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Post by anela on Apr 27, 2020 9:36:36 GMT
hibiscus Hello! I'm teasel. I feel like changing my name, too. I have no idea what I'd replace it with, though.
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Post by anela on Apr 27, 2020 9:42:24 GMT
And I'm really happy you found our group. No more BS from Randall. Randall I hope you are reading, send my love to Ami, as always.
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Post by Ava on May 1, 2020 21:33:39 GMT
I didn't even know Alyssa was back until I searched for Venus Rx videos last night. @6:40 "When a planet goes Rx it actually flips and acts like a different planet, and the sign goes to the opposing sign. So for instance, Venus becomes Mercury when it goes Rx and Gemini becomes Sag...so if we look at this energy like it's Mercury in Sag, we can see what this means...." and she continues on. To me she sounds really driven and goal-oriented at the moment, and I'm not sure if that's actually part of Gem Venus Rx because.....it wasn't what I was expecting to hear. Transiting SN in Cap is conjunct her Neptune-MC so I can see why it's applicable for her now: leftwingastrology.blogspot.com/2017/01/alyssa-sharpe.html She made some good points but I do think Gemini is about communication and sociability; does the Rx actually invert that, as she implies? We should all shut up and get to know ourselves? Hmm
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Post by lumina on May 2, 2020 9:08:47 GMT
no, that is not at all what it means to my observation. It is a time where we go more inward, not necessarily shutting up, but we are being concerned with revisitions, reevaluating the past, past decisions, consequences of past decisions for our present life; because we are concerned with this, we might appear more quiet than at other times, but actually there can be a lot communication, it just is below surface level, and taking into account decisions, maybe mistakes, or thought patterns that are for revision now.
BTW in horary if a planet goes retro before perfecting an aspect, it often means a change of mind or heart, a change of a previously made decision, or a return. Or depending on the question it could be that in an existing relationship, let`s say a wedding is planned, and the planet is retro, that wedding is postponed or cancelled because someone gets second thoughts. Alternatively if a divorce is pending, that might be delayed or questioned as well, so if people are separated from each other, it could mean a reconciliation, at least temporarily, depends on more if that second thought decision will be permanent of course. But sometimes it might be a real change. Usually once the planet turns direct again, we see manifestation of those below surface level thought processes and decisions bubbling up. of course sometimes the decisions we make are disastrous, sometimes we take the wrong road (though esoterically maybe the wrong decision is the one we had to take at that time for our learnprocess to start), sometimes there is also a lack of timing, wrong deductions, that lead to decisions that might spring from irrational thoughts and fears rather than what is actually happening. Most of the time people are not meaning things as personal as we assume they do. And then at other times they might. lol
Anyway...
Gemini doesn`t become Sagittarius. Cancer does not become Capricorn, though maybe for some people it might be applicable, but as you pointed out, ther emight be other things at play affecting it like this.
BTW has Venus already turned retro?
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Post by 12YearsABlob on May 2, 2020 12:10:05 GMT
it just is below surface level, and taking into account decisions, maybe mistakes, or thought patterns that are for revision now. Hmm, that's how I see retrogrades too. BTW in horary if a planet goes retro before perfecting an aspect, it often means a change of mind or heart, a change of a previously made decision, or a return. That's interesting, and it fits with my understanding of retrograde planets. When it comes to Venus, I suppose the things being re-evaluated are Venusian in nature, like you said. Both my parents have Venus retrograde natally, and if anything, being Rx intensified the expression of that sign. I haven't analyzed Venus retrograde vs direct in detail. But as far as I remember, they were simply more careful about matters of love (just like mercury retrograde natives are more careful with their words).
As for how this particular Venus Rx affects us: where it lands in our chart might be a clue?
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Post by lumina on May 2, 2020 12:21:11 GMT
For me IT will be 7th house
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Post by anela on May 17, 2020 20:42:22 GMT
This is going as expected, only my self-esteem isn't an issue right now.
It's in my 8th house. I'll delete some of this later. I just needed to write it out. (and, deleted it).
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Post by anela on May 17, 2020 20:50:57 GMT
Oh, and I am wasting my time doing exactly what my signature is there to remind me not to do.
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Post by anela on May 17, 2020 20:54:17 GMT
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Post by vg on May 26, 2020 10:00:47 GMT
So....Venus is on top of my NN right now.....last night got messages from 2 people i havent heard from in a while(one was about a month ago and the other may 3 mths ago)
Today heard from a friend that i haven't heard from since maybe feb.
They all have some planet aspecting my nodes. I should also say though natally i also have mercury square NN(approx. 1 deg orb).
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