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Post by lumina on Mar 1, 2024 8:32:52 GMT
That would be mine I think we have a winner here.
Haha, well I am not sure if parallels/ contraparallels even work or how they do. Not saying they don`t, maybe they do, I am just not sure.
In scanning the thread I noticed I had pointed out 2023. Interesting, especially considering the changes 2023 brought or started.
There will be my pr Venus opposing his pr and n Mars, too, not this year, but eventually, though I am not sure what that would mean, opposition can be a separative aspect as well after all.
I did for fun looked up our current progressed report from Paul Westran`s site, and just wanted to share this, as it looks quite hilarious (keeping in mind Paul Westran uses a 2 degree orb, whereas I would rather focus on 1 degree).
his progressed Venus is Quintile my natal Venus — orb is 1.9 deg. There is something uniquely unusual about the romantic side of your relationship, but the way you relate to each other is no different from any other couple. The quintile bestows a creativity which stirs the curiosity. You both appreciate each other's values, beauty and gentleness.
Venus represents the control we all have to determine aesthetic taste, so it governs the part of our mind which appreciates beauty in all its forms. When two Venuses connect by the quintile aspect, they tend to be poised in a dance of sublime complexity whose underlying principles a combinations of two people's appreciation of love, romance and beauty.
Whatever your talents and gifts, the quintile in relationships urges you to combine them so that you can utilize them together on the same project.
This is a temporary dynamic of your relationship, it can occasionally last for more than a decade.
my natal Venus is Trine his progressed Jupiter — orb is 2.0 deg.
It is possible that this aspect occurs between these two planets in your natal charts, as such some of this text may be repeated elsewhere in this report.
This is an extremely harmonious combination in a relationship and one which promotes feelings of abundance and well-being in the relationship. Quite often both of you will bring financial and material benefits to your union, or alternatively together you have a great opportunity to accumulate wealth as a couple. The enjoyment you gain from spending your shared wealth may form part of your relationship. Because Jupiter progresses at a very slow rate, this connection will regularly last for many years.
Unless other influences in your astrology suggests otherwise, your influence over each other will benefit both of you, the only thing you have to watch is the possibility that you may be a little indulgent. Jupiter is a symbolic benefactor in astrology and is apt to bring abundance and joy, while Venus can be just as joyful, she is concerned with the values we attach to things. Venus and Jupiter work very well together under the trine aspect, but sometimes too well. the natural state of Jupiter is to expand, the natural state of Venus is to find harmonious interaction and value. When both are connected by a trine aspect they are influenced away from uncomfortable situations towards excess and occasionally in some cases hedonism.
The dissolution that comes with a hedonistic lifestyle is only one possible outcome. Generally speaking most couples are not natural wastrels and so the outcome is more likely to be pleasurable and fertile emotional and intellectual company.
Very likely you will expand the vistas of each others minds and it will be a pleasure for others to enjoy your company as you will probably seek to entertain guests as often as possible.
his natal Sun is Quintile my progressed Venus — orb is 1.3 deg.
There is something uniquely unusual about your relationship, but the feelings you have for each other are no different from any other couple. The quintile bestows a creativity which stirs the curiosity. You both find each other fascinating, for different, but very closely related reasons.
Attraction is what the Sun experiences and attracting is what Venus does. It can also be said that the Venus represents the control we all have to determine aesthetic taste, while the Sun represents a part of us that is projected and appreciated by Venus. While both astrological principles are different, they combine in such a way that their roles can be difficult to demarcate. When they connect by the quintile aspect, they tend to be poised in a dance of sublime complexity whose underlying principles are attraction and intrigue.
Whatever your talents and gifts, the quintile in relationships urges you to combine them so that you can utilize them together on the same project.
This is a temporary dynamic of your relationship, although it may occasionally last for a decade or more.
Other couples who shared this connection at the outset of their relationship include: Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward; Enrique Iglesias and Anna Kournikova, and Robert and Ethel Kennedy.
his progressed Venus is Conjunct my progressed Jupiter — orb is 0.3 deg.
This combination in a relationship promotes feelings of abundance and well-being in the relationship. Quite often both of you will bring financial and material benefits to your union, or alternatively together you have a great opportunity to accumulate wealth as a couple. The duration of this aspect depends on the motion of Venus, but is typically five years.
Your influence over each other will most likely benefit both of you, the only thing you have to watch is the possibility that you may be a little indulgent. Jupiter is a symbolic benefactor in astrology and is apt to bring abundance and joy, while Venus can be just as joyful, she is concerned with the values we attach to things. Venus and Jupiter form an expansive conjunction and many things can be expanded within a relationship. The most obvious are the joint bank account, your breadth of opportunities and also your individual waistlines. Excess is appropriate in some areas and not in others.
Very likely you will expand the vistas of each others minds and it will be a pleasure for others to enjoy your company as you will probably seek to entertain guests as often as possible. As a couple your will feel more sociable than you do as individuals, but you will most likely take a lot of pleasure in each others private company as well.
my progressed Venus is Opposition his progressed Jupiter — orb is 0.4 deg.
This combination promotes feelings of abundance and well-being in the relationship. Quite often both of you will bring financial and material benefits to your union, or alternatively together you have a great opportunity to accumulate wealth as a couple. The duration of this aspect depends on the motion of Venus, but is typically five years.
When Venus and Jupiter form an opposition in a relationship, material issues can come between you. You may be forced to alternate between being frugal and spending to excess. While this may not be part of your individual personalities, the relationship itself can take on a life of its own and your influence upon each other can be so much fun you forget your usual limitations.
The influence you have on each other will most likely benefit both of you, the only thing you have to watch is the possibility that you may be a little indulgent. Jupiter is a symbolic benefactor in astrology and is apt to bring abundance and joy, while Venus can be just as joyful, she is concerned with the values we attach to things.
Very likely you will expand the vistas of each others minds and it will be a pleasure for others to enjoy your company as you will probably seek to entertain guests as often as possible. As a couple your will feel more sociable than you do as individuals, but you will most likely take a lot of pleasure in each others private company as well.
his natal Mars is Trine my progressed Mars — orb is 0.3 deg.
This connection is significant in some types of relationship astrology and plays an important role in the way that your relationship will develop over time. It is probably not the factor that brought you together. However, it's presence in your relationship can bring with it some very complimentary attributes.
This connection between the planet Mars means that you can work together well, indeed your "methods" are in harmony with each other and this bestows the ability for both of you to appreciate all of your physical day to day interactions. These include such diverse things from carrying out household chores to the technique of your physical lovemaking. Mars rules methods and we apply our methods in many different ways which can impact on the quality of our relationships. The fact that Mars in your natal and progressed charts is in harmony will lead to appreciation rather than frustration at least for the time being.
This connection is not a permanent dynamic in your relationship, but under certain circumstances it can last for an extended period of time in excess of a decade.
(my pr Mars is also still trine his n Jupiter - I think WEstran does not take this aspect into account, but seeing all that Jupiter right up there, I thought I`d mention it. lol)
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Post by lumina on Mar 1, 2024 8:58:53 GMT
I think it`s hilarious that we have a Venus-Jupiter-conjunction and -opposition peaking at the same time; actually his sa Venus will also be conjunct my natal Jupiter at this timeframe.
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Post by Ava on Mar 2, 2024 13:12:38 GMT
lumina , I assume those wider orbs above are applying aspects, not separating? Does the site happen to give dates for when the aspect perfects? Lately I'm wondering about progressed planets hitting the composite. Your pr Mars coming into conjunction with comp Venus, for example. My pr Mercury applying to a square with comp nodes. Pr Mercury in Aqua, and I'm starting to learn that knee-jerk reactions can be decisive and the best course of action even if they just seem impulsive at the time.
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Post by lumina on Mar 2, 2024 14:15:31 GMT
Hi AvaI assume those wider orbs above are applying aspects, not separating?" No this site doesn`t differentiate, which is a serious flaw with it, at least from my perspective. Does the site happen to give dates for when the aspect perfects? No, another flaw in my eyes. I like to know when an aspect perfects, as orbs can span a different timespan. Like a pr Mars or pr Moon or even pr Venus in comparision, so one degree orb is never the same amount of time, or almost never. Lately I'm wondering about progressed planets hitting the composite. Yes that is an interesting thought. I agree Your pr Mars coming into conjunction with comp Venus, for example. Yeah, but this is not going to happen for a long time to come. This will happen in 2031, well it probably will be felt before, but not 7 years prior. Plus when it does it will also oppose my own Saturn. Interestingly by then it will also bring my pr ASC to the c ASC. y pr Mercury applying to a square with comp nodes. this looks very meaningful, lots of mental processes going on. and they will influence the course of the connection. Pr Mercury in Aqua, and I'm starting to learn that knee-jerk reactions can be decisive and the best course of action even if they just seem impulsive at the time. Yes, I think oftentimes this is the case. At least my Draco Aries Sun, MErcury and Venus agree. lol And best trust your feelings in your gut more than your head, at least things start getting weird and difficult if I work myself up into mental circles. Well of course thinking is good or can lead to good things, too, but I am talking about that mental obessing over something that might not even be true. I am so good in this, my Moon is squaring my Mercury/Pluto-mp very exactly and it shows. lol
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Post by lumina on Mar 2, 2024 15:09:07 GMT
Avapicking up your idea about pr planets hitting composite points or planets, just looking through mine: my pr ASC is on 21 Cap (actually on my natal Sun/Moon-mp and AVX) and applies to c Moon on 22 Cap my pr Mercury on 22 Aqua (retro) moving to opposite c Saturn (21 Leo) my pr Chiron on 20 Aries as it has always been conjunct c SN (20 Aries) my pr Moon on 12 Sag, not yet, but it will conjunct c-Neptune (15 Sag) and c-Mercury (17 Sag) from his perspective pr DESC on 14 Gem applying to c Neptune (15 Sag) - hmm seems like my pr Moon will conjunct his pr DESC in a couple of weeks pr Moon on 18 Leo will conjunct c-Saturn (21 Leo) 3-4 degree orb, so that seems to point at may/ june, which is interesting as in june three Venus-Jupiter-progressions/ directions perfect (no nothing planned for >June, but there will be a bit in may) pr Pluto on 21 LIbra as it has always been conjunct NN (and Mars on 23 Libra of course) pr Mercury on 20 Aqua also applying to opposite c Saturn This is interesting, we actually have a mutually applying Mercury-Mercury-conjunction in the progressions, which will perfect a lot sooner than I expected it too, seems Mercury is pretty quick, but this one is already due at the end of this year, and I could imagine it to be pretty closely opposite c-Saturn They will meet exactly on 21°23 Aquarius (in december this year), and well this is very tightly opposite c-Saturn on 21°50 Leo my pr Mercury will be perfectly opposite c-Saturn in july, his pr Mercury will do the same in march next year. Well also means of course that our pr composite Mercury is still pestering c or pr c Saturn, but it`s been going on for a couple of years, so actually nothing new, possibly it is a little less close at the moment, I would need to check, but all in all obviously Mercury opposite Saturn does NOT look like a great prize. lol On the other hand maybe it is actually an antidote to our MErcury-Neptune-conjunction in the composite that might make things very surreal, not quite graspable. For me personally next year will be important anyway, I think, among other things I will have pr Sun conjunct my n Moon, which is a very rare occurrence of course, plus coincidentally I will have pr Moon conjunct n Sun, and it happens pretty much at the same time. Just for fun, looking up the total peak times. pr Sun conjunct n Moon: 29th march 2025 pr Moon conjunct n Sun: 12th april 2025 so within 2 weeks, and that is the total peak of both, so obviously there will be a building up time before of this, and then maybe an aftermath time, no clue what this will be about, but it looks interesting #Well actually on 29th march 2025 there will be a partial solar eclipse on 9 Aries, not sure I wanted to know this. lol Let`s hope for the best and brace for the worst and be aware that probably it will be completely different than anticipated. It`s also taking place on M`s 40th birthday, so no matter her birthtime, she probably is going to have that eclipse (with an orb) in her Solar Return for that year.
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Post by Ava on Mar 2, 2024 21:49:46 GMT
Oh I love all of that.
"They will meet exactly on 21°23 Aquarius (in december this year), and well this is very tightly opposite c-Saturn on 21°50 Leo"
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"On the other hand maybe it is actually an antidote to our MErcury-Neptune-conjunction in the composite that might make things very surreal, not quite graspable."
Right. I like Mercury-Saturn and here especially there's the sextile/trine to your pr Chiron on comp SN.
Next year is wild! And how many people get pr sun = n moon, pr moon = n sun within one month? AND with an eclipse happening the same day.
I think nothing would happen to me, if that were me, because I'd be hiding in a monastery somewhere and praying lightning wouldn't strike me through a window. But I guess that's not how Sag/Aqua is going to roll. lol
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Post by lumina on Mar 3, 2024 12:41:02 GMT
Hi Ava"They will meet exactly on 21°23 Aquarius (in december this year), and well this is very tightly opposite c-Saturn on 21°50 Leo" !!!!" Yeah, kinda interesting. My Draconic Uranus is on 21°12 Aqua, too. Right. I like Mercury-Saturn and here especially there's the sextile/trine to your pr Chiron on comp SN." Right. I forgot that. but yes. Also our natal composite has a 4 degree trine between Mercury and Saturn, so this is a nice underlying basis there, unexciting and boring, but our composite is volatile enough at other points, I consider that actually a good thing. lol I also looked up when pr c Mercury was opposite pr c Saturn exactly, and this was in autumn 2021, actually not a bad time at all. Next year is wild! And how many people get pr sun = n moon, pr moon = n sun within one month? AND with an eclipse happening the same day. Yes, I guess this is not happening every day. Literally of course. But who knows what that really means? Also, the pr Sun conjunct n Moon in the Dracos has already happened, I don`t know if that is meaningful or what kind of meaning it has (something preparing the path? I don`t know). But for what its worth that happened / peaked in december 2022/ january 2023. It was already just 9 minutes applying during the lunar eclipse in early november 2022, which draconically fell onto 2 Libra-Aries or vice versa. Of course Draconic eclipses are always closish to the Ariespoint, but well tropical eclipses are not, and the Solar eclipse next year will fall just a couple of degrees off it. I think nothing would happen to me, if that were me, because I'd be hiding in a monastery somewhere and praying lightning wouldn't strike me through a window. But I guess that's not how Sag/Aqua is going to roll. lol Haha, well possibly it will be nothing.
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Post by Ava on Mar 4, 2024 2:01:41 GMT
Hi again lumina, "Also our natal composite has a 4 degree trine between Mercury and Saturn, so this is a nice underlying basis there, unexciting and boring, but our composite is volatile enough at other points, I consider that actually a good thing. lol" I actually love Mercury trine Saturn in composite. It seems to ensure a long conversation...spanning years. "Yes, I guess this is not happening every day. Literally of course. But who knows what that really means?" Nobody knows because it's only happening to you. lol I have a sort of cool situation with my next progressed lunation...pr new moon perfects right around a new moon on my birthday. 2030. "Also, the pr Sun conjunct n Moon in the Dracos has already happened, I don`t know if that is meaningful or what kind of meaning it has (something preparing the path? I don`t know)." Ugh the math with that drives me bonkers. I mean my inability to easily see why draco charts progress so differently is frustrating. "Haha, well possibly it will be nothing." It has to be something. Book a trip to Mallorca and send invitations if there's nothing else on your schedule. I am slightly drunk but I would have said that anyway.
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Post by lumina on Mar 4, 2024 8:48:30 GMT
It seems to ensure a long conversation...spanning years. You can say that. lol
Nobody knows because it's only happening to you. lol LOL Now I feel like an unicorn
I have a sort of cool situation with my next progressed lunation...pr new moon perfects right around a new moon on my birthday. 2030. This is amazing, too. And it is part of your Solar Return.
I mean my inability to easily see why draco charts progress so differently is frustrating." We probably could find out, but I am too lazy. lol
Book a trip to Mallorca and send invitations if there's nothing else on your schedule. Hahaha,
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Post by Ava on Mar 4, 2024 13:12:13 GMT
We probably could find out, but I am too lazy. lol
Yes. Currently I'm too lazy to shoulder the burden of curiosity though. lol Actually I would, of course I'd have no choice, but something just occurred to me (thank you transiting Mercury sextile Uranus.) I know the "nodal year" (return of the draconic sun to its starting degree) is about 19 or 20 days shorter than a regular year. You probably already know this but for anyone reading, each solar return, in draconic, features the sun about 20 degrees ahead of where it was the year before. Last year on my birthday, draconic sun was @ 4 Sag. This year on my birthday it was 24 Sag. That's because the NN retrogrades about 20 degrees per year. (We began 2024 with the NN at 21 Aries, and we end it with the NN at 1 Aries.) Since the draconic years are shorter than regular years it makes sense that they progress faster. We've lived more "draconic years" than regular years. That whole solar system clock is faster, because the nodes set the pace, and since they are mostly retrograde, they're consistently shaving time off the orbital periods. (That's also why within one nodal return period of 18.6 years, we have a draconic return for every one of our draconic planets, even the outer planets.)
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