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Post by Violets on Mar 16, 2017 22:48:16 GMT
Does anyone else here practice in-depth energy work (beyond reiki, like really plumbing the depths)?
Since I began having energy work performed on me in 2009 while Pluto was trine my Moon and conjunct my Vertex (and Pluto was conjunct my husband's Moon), I've been doing this to some degree or another, either on my own or with someone else.
When Uranus began transiting over my natal Chiron, I began again with energy work with a healer, and I'm again experiencing massive energy releases involving past lives.
I can often see very clearly the approximate time frame, age, and conditions of the past self, and there is usually healing work that needs to happen with that part of my soul. Often these parts or lives are found by another person who is performing the energy work with me, but just as often they occur when I can sort of feel a "thick" energy coming to the surface, or when I meditate.
I recently experienced a few of these back to back, and have experienced as much at various intervals over the years.
It's been a few days since this last happened, but I always recall these experiences vividly. I can feel the energy release through the top of my head, or from various chakras.
Before I go into much detail, I'm wondering if anyone else here does this type of thing?
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Post by Ava on Mar 17, 2017 18:10:55 GMT
I'm hanging on your every word, Violets. I've had so little experience with this type of healing, but the little that I did have convinced me fully of its validity, at least with a capable practioner. I'm so greedy for more....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 18:23:06 GMT
This sounds so very interesting Violets. I'm afraid I haven't been an active participant in this kind of healing (another name for energy work?) but have had it done on me. A very powerful American clairvoyant, the one who spoke of my various past lives and current challenges, said that she had swept my 'drawers' clean so that I no longer carried any demands or pressures from previous lives. That seemed like a big thing if she had accomplished that. But there was no way to tell if it had actually come to pass. I cannot, like you or many people here, feel subtle energies.
I have trained as a healer with a National Spiritual Healing federation in the UK and have also taken courses in pranic healing in India. Both of these methods are based upon the chakra system.
It is fantastic that you can sense and know of past lives as that puts you in control. Would love to hear of some of your experiences in more detail. What do you think is being released - is it unfullfilled desires and aspirations, or negatives like guilt and regret. Are you sending the past life person unconditional love and forgiveness from your higher self so that karma are dissolved?
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Post by Violets on Mar 17, 2017 19:13:09 GMT
This sounds so very interesting Violets. I'm afraid I haven't been an active participant in this kind of healing (another name for energy work?) but have had it done on me. A very powerful American clairvoyant, the one who spoke of my various past lives and current challenges, said that she had swept my 'drawers' clean so that I no longer carried any demands or pressures from previous lives. That seemed like a big thing if she had accomplished that. But there was no way to tell if it had actually come to pass. I cannot, like you or many people here, feel subtle energies. I have trained as a healer with a National Spiritual Healing federation in the UK and have also taken courses in pranic healing in India. Both of these methods are based upon the chakra system. It is fantastic that you can sense and know of past lives as that puts you in control. Would love to hear of some of your experiences in more detail. What do you think is being released - is it unfullfilled desires and aspirations, or negatives like guilt and regret. Are you sending the past life person unconditional love and forgiveness from your higher self so that karma are dissolved? From what I experience, @astrokeen, it's more like fragmented parts of my soul from past lives who were unable to move on properly, so they need to either be found, or come forth of their own accord somehow, I guess when the conditions are right. I'm not sure that it dissolves karma (I hope it does, lol), but I know that having parts of ourselves who are stuck in other lifetimes leaves us...well, not as complete as we would probably like to be. These "stuck" parts of ourselves leave us with unadressed emotional and psychological issues that affect us in our current lives, until that part of ourselves can be freed from the energies/emotions that kept them from moving on in a healthy way. Usually this is due to trauma in that lifetime, or regrets, or a combination of many things. It can cause a lot of blockages in our energy flows and chakras. My experience is that we also can sometimes get someone else's energy or "part" of their soul sort of "stuck" to us from past lives. I recently released something like that back to my husband, as that part of him had died confused, enraged, and apparently away from his family (I was his wife in that lifetime as well). We had both noticed that lifetime together years ago when we were doing energy work together, but hadn't realized that he needed to integrate that part of himself more wholly. I've noticed the energy from that person IN me, and I identified it as belonging to my husband, but I always assumed it was just an energy he was carrying that sort of glommed onto me. When I found the actual part of him who had attached to his wife's spirit in death in that lifetime, I was able to help him understand that he was okay, and we were together, and he was able to return back to my husband. We both have the idea that we were Spartans in that lifetime. I really love talking about this type of thing, and I appreciate you guys responding, Ava and @astrokeen. It's sort of a difficult choice to decide "yes, I want to share this with people who may or may not respect my experiences", as I suppose they could sound pretty far out to some people. I've had a lot of these types of experiences, and I am really hoping that they won't stop when Uranus stops transiting over my Chiron. I took a break from energy work after Pluto passed its transit over my Vertex and trining my Moon, but I hope to continue with this even after the transit passes. Everyday life can impede this type of progress, but it still has to be lived, so one goal at some point will be to incorporate both in a way that keeps my spiritual and physical being both on the higher path. I have company coming, and my son will be home from school in a few minutes, but I will try to come back and share more, if I'm able or if you guys want to keep talking about it. @astrokeen, I would love to hear about your healing training, and how that manifests for you as well. Ava, thank you for hearing me with an open mind. <3
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Post by Violets on Mar 17, 2017 19:40:43 GMT
Oh... In answer to whether I send that part of myself unconditional love, yes. I'm always thrilled when they come back, and it's ideally a month-long "celebration", where I listen to that part of my soul, ask what they would like to do (something simple) that day, and often light a candle every evening in gratitude and celebration for their return.
Sometimes it's as simple as going outside to smell the earth, or in the last case, where a part of my soul had been obligated to take on the role of High Priestess (I did get the word "Sorceress" as well) for something her soul did not feel comfortable with, all she wanted was to dedicate her life to the higher path of God, in the sense of light. So I lit a candle as a way of symbolizing her dedication to light.
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Post by Violets on Mar 17, 2017 21:04:43 GMT
In other news, I don't want to come across like I fancy myself to be an expert, or nearly as skilled as my current...medicine woman? Healer? And I hope I'm not blabbering too much. It's just fascinating to me as well, and I really enjoy talking about it. I love it when it happens, and I enjoy hearing other people's stories as well. So I hope anyone reading will understand that this comes from a place of feeling very humbled by and immeasurably grateful for these experiences, but as I'm still developing, I do really enjoy talking to others about it. <3
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 21:53:19 GMT
Violets, I really can't see why you or anyone would need to excuse themselves for interests of this kind. Especially here in a forum on Spirituality. Where else is not here! And you have a ready audience. So no need to go off topic (by being apologetic) . I really would like to know lots more and I have a lot of questions . I am trying to decide what to ask first and so looking forward to what you and others have to say. What you have mentioned is not a common process of healing the self. And perhaps it cannot be undertaken by most people even if they wanted to. If that is the case, that must be other more indirect ways to enable such healing to take place. By this I mean that the person becomes whole without being specifically aware of retrieving parts of their soul. Maybe what you do is more direct and quicker, or maybe it's more direct but not as quick. After all there maybe hundreds of lives which were left incomplete in some way. I also wonder why this healing process does not take place after one passes over to the other side. If at that point a review process is undertaken so experiences or paths can be chosen for the next life, it seems rather inefficient to continue the process in a damaged and incomplete way. If a healing/retrieval process is not taking place on the other side, then what of the rest of humanity who do not have the knowledge or the opportunity to conduct the process here. So, there surely must be other methods for becoming whole. Would it be possible for you to describe one such process please? How does it start, how does your healer (is she/he a shaman?) participate etc. And how do you experience the results, i.e., how does the experience of soul retrieval change you?
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Post by Violets on Mar 18, 2017 1:55:10 GMT
@astrokeen , I've also pondered how we "cross over" with fragmented parts of our souls still attached to former lifetimes. It's not what most of us are taught to believe, we're all taught that we move into the light, and we either go to heaven or hell, or plan our lessons for the next lifetime, and that's that. But I suspect that human spirits (what people call "ghosts", and residual energies that a lot of us pick up on) have a lot to do with that? In my limited human understanding, it reminds me of when people have dissociative disorder (or multiple personalities). The trauma experienced by people with those diagnoses causes the traumatized part of their psyche to sort of "retreat", still stuck in the trauma but not quite coming to the surface consciously (I am obviously explaining that in the most basic terms as far as psychology goes, and being extremely lazy about it, and probably not completely accurate with my wording). I would have zero idea if that's even remotely close to how it really is in the spiritual world, but that's the closest my brain can get to understanding it. I suppose no fragmented piece of the soul can be forced to move forward with the rest of the soul completely, if that part is sadly "stuck" for some reason. Of course I couldn't say for sure, I honestly only just know what happens, I'm not completely sure how or why... When my healer (she is a shaman, and has studied in South America, Central America, and North America, as well as being a RN in the US not far from where I live) does work on me, she calls in higher energies, archetypes, Guides, and I'm sure angels. When a part of my soul (or in one instance, a huge amount of my personal energy) has been retrieved, I feel...well, more whole. Literally. When I release a lot of negative energy either from this life or a past life, I can literally see more clearly with my eyes. When it happens without the aid of a highly trained healer, it's much harder for me, and on me both physically and emotionally, and it takes sometimes a week, as opposed to two hours. Like the equivalent of being operated on by a trained medical professional vs a med student, sort of. When I know that something "is about to happen", I either get a strong message that I had better go lay down and get ready for it, or sometimes I can just feel it physically and energetically. It can be overwhelming, so I usually do try to go into my personal space and lay down if that's possible. It's difficult to describe how it feels, like a pressure building up and then slowly releasing from my crown chakra, and I can often sense it releasing from other chakras as well. Eh well, it's difficult for me to describe all of these things, and I don't believe I'm doing a top job, but I'm doing my best.
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Post by Ava on Mar 18, 2017 1:58:28 GMT
I'm fascinated by this conversation. @astrokeen , I love your questions. Violets , I suffer an education deficit that I am painfully aware of. Topics come up and I wish I came to them better prepared. In this case, I can fully accept the reality of your processes; theoretically, it makes sense to me, and I trust your experiences are real. Vajra and I were talking about past lives a year or two ago. Things have a way of seeping into me pretty deeply; I mean, one news story can affect my mood for weeks. And this chat with Vajra was moving furniture around in my psyche. Around that time I had a dream which felt like a past life recall; I wasn't fully asleep. The quality of this life was so different from my own life and yet, I do see how it lives in me in a kind of "fractional" form. In that life I was a kind of hermit who had attained a state of bliss. But as I lived a moment as that person (male), I also sensed these faint shards of the painful lives that had gone before that. So...that's one small anecdote I have, as a point of reference, in trying to grasp how you are seeing and experiencing past life memories. It's all on a rather vague level, compared to your experiences. I mean there is nothing I feel compelled to do at this point to honor that hermit within. Maybe I just need to listen better, or get into those trancey sleep states more often. Meditation, I think people call it? Edit: Oh we were writing at the same time!
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Post by Violets on Mar 18, 2017 2:04:13 GMT
Ava yeah, we were, hahaha. Maybe you were just seeing that lifetime as a sort of glimpse for whatever reason, but maybe he was already peacefully integrated?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 2:45:54 GMT
Eh well, it's difficult for me to describe all of these things, and I don't believe I'm doing a top job, but I'm doing my best. You are doing fantastically well at describing these things. And do carry on, as there so much to be told and speculated on. I would love to experience a soul retrieval if I possibly could, but the chances of finding a well qualified shaman here are remote. You had mentioned that sometimes fragments of your soul also return to you when the time is right. What make that happen? And does the experience feel any different?
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Post by Violets on Mar 18, 2017 4:41:15 GMT
Thanks, @astrokeen .
Just if you're interested (not wishing to push at all)...my healer does her work from a distance with me, over the phone. That was how I did it before as well, with another energy worker. I doubt the distance from the here to where you are would be daunting for her, maybe just the time difference would be difficult to work around (in case you ever wish to contact her, or look at her website).
I'm not sure what makes the timing right for a spontaneous fragment to return. I find that momentum (like the work I've been doing with my shaman/healer) is very conducive to this happening.
I experience regular energy release fairly consistently, but if I get myself into a situation for long enough where I'm out of practice for myself (that I've allowed daily stressors or exceptional stress to accumulate too much negative energy), I have needed help from someone more qualified to get a leg up, so to speak. Regular energy release, meaning just purging negative energy that I'm aware of within my energy field or attached to me, collecting, etc. My goal is to no longer allow myself to become that out of sync with my spiritual well-being.
I think that once this type of work starts and gains momentum, it tends to create a really wonderful opportunity for it to continue happening.
Or, as you mentioned, it could happen without a person being aware of it specifically, it may just manifest as a feeling of relief, and a better sense of feeling more whole... Possibly triggered by the feelings that kept those parts of ourselves accidentally locked in that lifetime?
I find that prayer, concentrated on releasing specific types of energy (anger, fear, resentment, sorrow, whatever) is exceptionally helpful, and can sometimes be all that is required. <3
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Post by Ava on Mar 18, 2017 18:40:14 GMT
Ava yeah, we were, hahaha. Maybe you were just seeing that lifetime as a sort of glimpse for whatever reason, but maybe he was already peacefully integrated? I honestly don't know anything. I'm trying to learn by reading here. All that comes to mind is, he was in tune with his surroundings and his happiness was tied to the "happiness" of Gaea, the flourishing natural world. His cabin was on the bank of a river. This house is on a four-lane highway, and I find it very distressing. We are selling the country home, but I feel like that is where "he"....or this part of me...whatever this is....belongs. I can be happy in a non-attachment sense. But I AM attached to the earth, and I'm a naturalist at heart. My draconic sun is conjunct my SN in Taurus. I don't see how I could ever be happy in a society that is so far out of alignment with nature. Astrology is just one way that I perceive myself as integrated within a natural order....ideally, I'd also be functioning within a natural ecosystem, an orderly sound system (community drum circles and stuff!), and social system where people have the same values. Like concentric circles. Outside of attaining these ideals, it's hard to imagine ever feeling whole again? Except maybe in an afterlife. Because from my Taurus standpoint, as I'm looking at it today.....just seems like generation after generation of fading natural wisdom, declining steadily even in my lifetime, even in me. Mars is transiting at 6 Taurus, t-squaring my 5 Aqua Mercury and 6 Scorpio Uranus. I know I took this off track but I don't understand the track enough to stay on it! Sorry for derailing but maybe some of this is applicable after all...
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Post by Violets on Mar 18, 2017 22:11:50 GMT
I don't find that derailing, I find it enjoyably conversational (and probably relevant to more than one lifetime). I also need to be close to nature, and have reasonable privacy to do so. Where we lived before, outside of Seattle near the mountains, was beautiful. We had a half acre that was partly wooded, and deer would come and hang out in our yard, there was a giant fern in the forested area, etc. This house we bought...ohh. I love the house, it's truly lovely and beautifully built with solid wood, vaulted ceilings and plenty of room (or other house was not tiny, but not as big). But it's in a suburban neighborhood of the small town I grew up in (not my favorite place, but I'm dealing), our neighbors are RIGHT NEXT TO US (and loud, as any Facebook user can attest to my gripes and complaints), and there's precious little room for a garden. Or any privacy. I won't be ungrateful or allow myself to moan too excessively, as we're lucky to have our lovely house. But I miss living further out, and having more privacy to just walk outside and dig in the dirt without hearing other people or having to talk to them (hello, Cancer Saturn in 11th, we meet again... ).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 10:27:44 GMT
VioletsI am so happy I read this and it gave me something to think about and I find your experience amazing . What is strange is for a long time I felt like a part of me was missing and I tried to find happiness within me and whatnot but I keep feeling partially empty. What you described is similar to what was described in (funny enough) a Harry Potter movie, where parts of Voldermorts souls he hid himself and only if those parts were distroyed could he be destroyed, so its very funny how such a big thing was put into a movie. Gives me thought that others are having similar experiences like you otherwise they wouldnt describe such an experience. I would be interested in finding out if you feel free to share who it is you work on this with? again, please share more with whatever comes to you dont feel a need to stop yourself.
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Post by Violets on Mar 19, 2017 11:30:29 GMT
Thanks, @intuitivefish ! Yes, exactly like Voldemort if he were a nice guy, and had lost his soul parts on accident, lol. I don't mind sharing her page at all, she's a wonderful and amazing person. Thank you again... There is a lot more... I lost a huge portion of energy and personal power in a really psychologically and emotionally abusive relationship over a ten year period of time, in this lifetime. That large part of my energy had to actually be retrieved from that person's soul. It was amazing to get it back. A lot of energy retrieval I've experienced with the woman I see has been from this lifetime as well. I think we all experience trauma, and as a result we feel like we "lose" a part of ourselves. So I guess sometimes that's actually true. I will pm you her website, but the cost is...not as bad as some, but these things are always a bit costly, I suppose. I'm really glad you got something from my post! <3
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:40:41 GMT
Thank you on wanting to give her information, I think such costs are good investments into our life.
Can you describe more how it feels to receive the parts back ? did you feel the energy of it actually happening
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Post by Ava on Mar 19, 2017 14:02:56 GMT
Thank you again... There is a lot more... I lost a huge portion of energy and personal power in a really psychologically and emotionally abusive relationship over a ten year period of time, in this lifetime. That large part of my energy had to actually be retrieved from that person's soul. It was amazing to get it back. ❤️ That's so me. Depleted from all that I over-gave. A fragment of a song came to me..."Make me whole again".... Baker Baker - Tori Amos
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Post by Violets on Mar 19, 2017 15:29:11 GMT
Thank you on wanting to give her information, I think such costs are good investments into our life. Can you describe more how it feels to receive the parts back ? did you feel the energy of it actually happening Yes, I did. My eyes opened so wide, and for so long, like I couldn't blink or anything... Like abnormally so, and I wasn't doing it on purpose. That's what I really recall about that particular retrieval, as it was very powerful. A lot had been taken from me (in this lifetime). When I do it myself, I sometimes shake, or my teeth chatter, that type of thing. And then I feel amazingly refreshed, the way one does after a good reiki session or a really great massage, I guess? Our company is getting ready to leave, so I'll try to add more and get her info to you here in a bit.
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Post by anela on Mar 20, 2017 10:49:13 GMT
I don't know that I've ever experienced this. I would like to. This was one reason I wanted to visit Therese Rowley, or have a reading over the phone. She can apparently move blocks out of your way, but won't always do so. Sometimes she says it's something you need to work on (going by what was written in, "I'm Spiritual, Dammit!"). I can't afford almost $500 for a reading with her.
I was obsessed with reading about past life sessions, and the between life part. I live in so much fear now, and I hate it.
A friend of mine, who used to be at LL years ago, does Reiki. I might ask her how much she charges, and if she could do that for me, if I pay her. In the book I mentioned above, or her first book (Stay Tuned), her father was going for reiki treatments every week, and that was the only time that he felt better.
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