Capricorn Moon and Self-Control

[Electrode]

I was reading a thread on LL about Moon in Capricorn, and as a Draconic Capricorn Moon, I came across a description that I really resonated with to a T. 

They're afraid of losing self-control, but I also think it has to do with trusting that other people won't leave once they do. They don't trust other people's reactions to their OWN reactions and therefore would prefer not to show it AT ALL.

This is something that I can definitely connect with. The idea of losing self-control is something that constantly grates at me, and I am always constantly striving to stay in control of myself at all times. When I feel like I am acting out on a whim, I criticize myself because I feel that I should be acting more mature/better than this, which makes it very difficult for me to feel comfortable with just letting myself go and acting silly. I sometimes expect people to criticize my weird side the same way I would myself.

I also definitely don't trust other people's reactions to my own reactions, especially if they are emotionally fueled. Probably because all of my life when I would try to vent anything emotional to my dad he would just tell me to "get over it" or that it was "just another phase of your life" even if it really bothered me. Not to mention that when I felt like I was at my most vulnerable around him, on some other day whenever he was mad or irritated with me he would just take those moments and throw them in my face. It's situations like that that teach me that you can't trust just anyone with the most vulnerable parts of yourself.

Because of these things, there have been many times where I've been going through a tough emotional trip throughout the day (speaking as an 8th house Moon opposite Pluto exact) and no one would ever have any idea, just because I know deep down that they just wouldn't get it. If I do express this side of myself it is because I trust that you won't make me feel invalidated or dismissed, and the more I see you do those things the less I feel I can trust you with this side of me.


If you are a Cap Moon, does this resonate with you? For others, would you agree that this describes a lot of the Capricorn Moons you know? 

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I grew up with cap moon, I know lots of them, attracted lots of them, befriended many. Many confided in me their biggest secrets... I have moon sextile Saturn by 1 degree myself (though I wouldnt count that as cap moon)

I feel like your description sounds more like your scorp mars, gem moon in 8th combined with aqua sun. I can expand in it when I have time... but please don’t take it personally, this is just my opinion.

And Capricorn moons out there, please don’t take this personally. If you realize 70% ppl who have been very close to me have this placement, you’d know.

Probably the most common trait of all of them is being bound by a heavy dose of realism. They are usually very judgmental, even when paired with gemini sun. They immediate make a judgment on your values when they first meet you. I know that because they told me what they think, lol. Even when they didn’t, I would ask: “I haven’t seen you hanging out with xyz for a while, I guess this person is of no values to you any more?” And they would admit to it as well as adding an essay of what a piece of trash this person is. (Trash, insects are very common words cap uses to describe ppl they don’t like). I have venus in 8th in cap so I know how to approach them in a way where they trust me. The stand-off fish or insecurity aren’t always apparent, depending on the individual. In fact plenty of them just hard, cold business: you are of no values to me do I won’t be available anymore.

They obviously have many great traits: prudent, disciplined, always taking care of their family financially. They don’t exactly love their family tho, but they’ll do their parts and they are not gonna leave their family hanging. To others that’s not always the case. They beat themselves up with every mistake. If something didn’t go their way, they’d think what have I done wrong. So gradually they do become more controlled over time. Lots have wilddd youth, then the mistakes bite them in the butt and they can’t just brush it off like a sag moon, so they direct thensekvrs and the famous controlling side starts coming to shape.

If you’re in their trusted circle, they care for you more than they care for their family. They only do things for families out of a sense of duty and obligations... they choose to do things for friends. Capricorn moons have been really great friends of mine. I love them. 2 of My little cousins have this placements and both are very willful at early age. You can see how they beat themselves up for mistakes, how they look out for their sibling or foe they judge you. One of them has been described as a difficult to please at his day care because he want everything done properly. The other one was messing with his brother and every now and then he looked back and checked to see if he went too far.

I unfortunately don’t find them to have the emotional reflective qualities that you describe here, the urge to share but somehow feel shut down you experience. Cap moon sees things in boxes, there’s a time and a place for every thing. If they choose to share they’ll share, if they don’t then they don’t. They don’t really feel shutdown by others. They shit themselves down until they find the perfect timing and then they’ll drop it without caring about how you feel. They are really good at debates, they’ll cut you to the core when it’s time because they’re incredibly logical and thoughtful.

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My best friend of 12 years is a Cap Moon/Cap ASC/Cap Saturn and my boyfriend of 3 years (who I've known for 14 years) is a Cap Sun/Moon/Saturn, so this energy does tend to stick by me quite a bit. 

In the case of my boyfriend and bff, there is a massive emotional restraint, probably doubly so in my boyfriend's case as his Moon is conjunct Saturn (2°) 

They're afraid of losing self-control, but I also think it has to do with trusting that other people won't leave once they do. They don't trust other people's reactions to their OWN reactions and therefore would prefer not to show it AT ALL.



This is something that I can definitely connect with. The idea of losing self-control is something that constantly grates at me, and I am always constantly striving to stay in control of myself at all times. When I feel like I am acting out on a whim, I criticize myself because I feel that I should be acting more mature/better than this, which makes it very difficult for me to feel comfortable with just letting myself go and acting silly. I sometimes expect people to criticize my weird side the same way I would myself.

This seems true for them. The seemed to be spirited children until some kind of trauma struck them down and limited their ability to freely display emotions. 

In the case of a Scorpio Moon this is also true - the difference is that a Scorpio Moon will always have these intense feelings locked away, bubbling beneath, simmering ever so slightly above the surface. I think that a Capricorn Moon is so VERY repressed to such an extent that their emotions do not even occur to them on a conscious level anymore. Sometimes when I try to scan their emotional landscape looking for context clues, for things that are "hidden" in their psyche, there actually isn't anything happening there at all. It's like a desert plain with a tumbleweed rolling past. So many astrological sites are like "just wait, there's a gooey center in that Capricorn shell!" but in my experience there really is not - simply because they are not healed enough to ALLOW themselves a gooey, warm center to be present. The repression is that intense. 

If the Capricorn native sees nothing wrong with the way that they have learned to process things, there is nothing sweet and hidden beneath the surface. It's like opening a door that leads to another door that leads to another door and the Capricorn Moon is the architect to this house and they never planned for there to be a room at the end of those doors, let alone pondered what they should place in there. 

They do feel things - in their small, comfortable, routine way. But they do compartmentalize A LOT (as @theunknown has  noted above) and if an emotion seems useless to them, they will toss it aside in due order (maybe not as effortlessly as an Air Moon, but Capricorn Moons do not have this super rich emotional life that would apply to Scorpio or Pisces like many people believe). 

That being said I love them and they are my top two favorite moon signs, it's just been through serious trial and error where I've begun to understand this about them. 

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Mar 18, 2019 5:26:54 GMT Electrode said:

I was reading a thread on LL about Moon in Capricorn, and as a Draconic Capricorn Moon, I came across a description that I really resonated with to a T. 

They're afraid of losing self-control, but I also think it has to do with trusting that other people won't leave once they do. They don't trust other people's reactions to their OWN reactions and therefore would prefer not to show it AT ALL.

This is something that I can definitely connect with. The idea of losing self-control is something that constantly grates at me, and I am always constantly striving to stay in control of myself at all times. When I feel like I am acting out on a whim, I criticize myself because I feel that I should be acting more mature/better than this, which makes it very difficult for me to feel comfortable with just letting myself go and acting silly. I sometimes expect people to criticize my weird side the same way I would myself.

I also definitely don't trust other people's reactions to my own reactions, especially if they are emotionally fueled. Probably because all of my life when I would try to vent anything emotional to my dad he would just tell me to "get over it" or that it was "just another phase of your life" even if it really bothered me. Not to mention that when I felt like I was at my most vulnerable around him, on some other day whenever he was mad or irritated with me he would just take those moments and throw them in my face. It's situations like that that teach me that you can't trust just anyone with the most vulnerable parts of yourself.

Because of these things, there have been many times where I've been going through a tough emotional trip throughout the day (speaking as an 8th house Moon opposite Pluto exact) and no one would ever have any idea, just because I know deep down that they just wouldn't get it. If I do express this side of myself it is because I trust that you won't make me feel invalidated or dismissed, and the more I see you do those things the less I feel I can trust you with this side of me.


If you are a Cap Moon, does this resonate with you? For others, would you agree that this describes a lot of the Capricorn Moons you know? 



Electrode- I don't know any other Cap Moons, but yes, I'm a Cap Moon in the 12th, and you just described me to a T.  I also have a T-square of Sun, Saturn and Pluto, and Saturn in the 5th. I have a lot of Saturn energy in my chart........As for the other post.... I'm not offended by your opinion of Cap Moons, theunknown...... But, I can say, in all honesty, (and ones who know me can attest to this, too)  that I have never used people or booted them out of my life if they weren't in some way benefiting me. And, never have I been the type to call anyone names, or think of them as being 'trash'.  I try to think before I speak, and imagine how I would feel if what's getting ready to come out of my mouth, was said to me.  So, I do think about other peoples feelings, and often put their feelings before my own.  

[Ava]

Interesting conversation.

Cap moons seem emotional to me in that distinctive Capricorn way. Not emoting is a form of emoting. Toughness is a form of emoting. Sometimes my oldest son will get into the passenger seat of the car, fold his arms, stare straight ahead without talking to me. I know he's not trying to show anger or indifference towards me because if I ask a question often he'll come to life and his tone of voice is friendly, thoughtful, engaged. My other Cap moon son is essentially the same, with a resting stoic face, or looking world-weary and pensive.

If they had gotten into the car chattering about this and that, talking just to hear themselves talk, acting silly...that's much less emotional as far as I'm concerned. Someone who is sitting there more like a zen statue is pretty obviously dealing with a lot more.

There's a lot to control because there is a lot to know about the world (they are wise and seeking wisdom) and when you take everything in, you take in all the emotional metadata with it, and if you are aiming for total comprehension, you have to become detached and analytical, not letting your own emotional distortions bias your assessment.

My Cap moon friends and sons have such a charming and refreshing way of cutting through to the heart of the matter. I don't always agree with their conclusions but I love their approach and style. It's barebones, direct, sincere. They all seem totally sincere to me. I know they aren't telling me everything....my one Cap moon friend is probably the most surprising woman I ever met, because she will reveal things out of the blue that you would never expect from her. So that always leaves me thinking, "What else is there? Do I even know you yet?" And I like that.

Another Cap moon friend tells me how much she does not tell people about her life. My moon is conjunct her Saturn in Pisces so that could be why she trusts me...she says things like, "You probably knew this without me even telling you." It is kind of true, I may not know the details but I can sense what must be bothering her, just by picking up random bits of news and gossip. I don't apply any pressure. Cap is a transpersonal sign and therefore intuitive. Sometimes the way to ask a question with Cap is to NOT ask the question -- that is a show of delicacy and sensitivity. They respond to those subtle cues.

Most Cap moons I know are involved in communities, churches, acting as pillars of certain organizations, while at the same time they are individualists who do not completely fit into the group. I mean they never lose themselves to a cult mentality but will always count themselves as the foremost expert on what they need to do. Self-reliant.

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