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Post by glaucus on Feb 23, 2019 15:39:31 GMT
I was checking out my Mesopotamian,Egyptian,Persian Asteroids in the chart also looked at other things like connection to astrology and other civilizations
Ecliptic Longitude:
Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
conj Athor in 6'16 Scorpio
conj Selqet in 4'44 Scorpio
conj Celestechild in 6'35 Scorpio
squa Babel' in 6'17 Aquarius
squa Aigyptios in 5'57 Aquarius
squ Arabia in 6'00 Leo
squ Ethiopia in 5'03 Leo
sex Astronautica in 4'51 Capricorn
sex Aten in 5'58 Capricorn
semisex Tutenchamun in 5'35 Sagittarius
Moon in 3'11 Pisces
conj Hermes in 3'16 Pisces R
tri Euphrates in 3'09 Scorpio
squ Gilgamesh in 2'06 Gemini R
squ Menkaure in 2'15 Sagittarius
squ Astrowizard in 3'13 Gemini R
quincunx Geometria in 3'03 Libra
quincunx Ashurbanipal in 2'54 Libra
quincunx Karma in 3'18 Libra
Asc/Desc in 13'26 Virgo/Pisces
conj/opp Alma in 13'34 Virgo - spirit,soul
conj/opp Artaxerxes in 14'08 Virgo
conj/opp Horemheb in 14'07 Virgo
conj/opp Amenephet in 12'55 Virgo
opp/conj Chephren in 13'41 Pisces
tri/sex Soomana in 12'33 Capricorn - stargirl
sex/tri Sumeria in 13'19 Cancer
sex/tri Drakonia in 13'48 Cancer - Dragon
sex/tri Sphinx in 12'11 Cancer
sex/tri Ptah in 14'22 Scorpio
sex Niger in 13'47 Scorpio - Black
sex/tri Stargazer in 12'40 Scorpio
MC/IC in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius
opp/conj Mesopotamia in 11'34 Sagittarius
opp/conj Atlantis in 12'18 Sagittarius
opp/conj DNA in 11'10 Sagittarius
tri/sex Astronomia in 11'01 Libra
squ Hatshephet in 11'58 Pisces R
sex/tri Africa in 11'15 Aries R
sex/tri Sisigambis in 11'17 Leo
Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio
squ Semiramis in 18'08 Leo
Venus in 21'47 Scorpio
opp Sesostris in 22'32 Taurus R
quincunx Amasis in 21'55 Aries R
Mars in in 25'54 Aquarius
squ Nephthys in 25'58 Scorpio
sex Astrometria in 25'46 Aries R
Jupiter in 8'16 Sagittarius
opp Babylon in 8'14 Gemini R
Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R
conj Kleopatra in 6'26 Gemini R
opp Tutenchamun in 5'35 Sagittarius
Uranus in 15'17 Libra
conj Imhotep in 14'06 Libra
tri Osiris in 15'53 Aquarius
tri Tuthmosis in 14'59 Aquarius
sex Darius in 14'45 Leo
sex Tigris in 15'54 Leo
semisex Seneferu in 15'03 Virgo
quincunx Echnaton in 14'48 Taurus R
Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius
conj Menkaure in 2'15 Sagittarius
opp Gilgamesh in 2'06 Gemini R
trine Anubis in 2'13 Leo
sex Ishtar in 1'42 Aquarius
Lunar Nodes in 10'29 Aquarius/Leo
tri/sex Innanen in 9'39 Libra
tri/sex Astronomia in 11'01 Libra
squ Horus in 11'16 Taurus R
sex/tri Mesopotamia in 11'34 Sagittarius
sex/tri DNA 11'10 Sagittarius
sex/tri Africa in 11'15 Aries R
sex/tri Sisigambis in 11'17 Leo
Declination:
Sun in 13'18 South
pll Chaldaea in 13'34 South
cpl Semiramis in 13'14 North
cpl Scientia in 13'40 North
Moon in 8'31 South
pll Asteria in 8'22 South
pll Chephren in 8'18 South
pll Astrometria in 8'13 South
cpl Gilgamesh in 8'27 North
Mercury in 18'24 South
pll Aigyptios in 18'06 South
pll Nefertiti in 18'14 South
pll Xerxes in 18'44 South
cpl Horus in 18'33 North
cpl Nofreteti in 18'37 North
Venus in 18'10 South
pll Aigyptios in 18'06 South
pll Nefertiti in 18'14 South
cpl Horus in 18'33 North
cpl Nofreteti in 18'37 North
Saturn in 19'02 North
cpll Babel' in 19'27 South
cpll Xerxes in 18'44 South
Neptune in 18'57 South
pll Babel' in 19'27 South
pll Xerxes in 18'44 South
objects less than 1 degree from the equator (considered strong)
Ashurbanipal in 0'09 North
Esther in 0'21 North
Hatshephet- pharoah/queen married to Thutmosis/tuthmosis
Nofretete -named after Nefertiti, wife of the Egyptian pharaoh Amenhotep IV.
2435 Horemheb-the last Pharaoh of the 18th Dynasty- lovers Amenia, Mutnedjmet
4161- Amasis- named after the egyptian phraroah Amasis 570-bc526, introduced the demotic characters for hierogyphs
4412- Chephren- pharaoh of the old egyptian kingdom about 2500 bc and he built the second largest pyramid ofnear giza
4568- Menkaure- son of Chephren, reigned for 18 years built the third and smallest of the three pyramids of giza
4414- Sesostris- the name of the three pharaoh of the old kingdoms 12th dynasty reigned about 1900 bc high points of egyptian architecture with the building karnak and heliopolis.
4906- Seneferu (also written as Snefru) the first king of the 4th dynasty built two pyramids near Daschur
5010 Amenemhet- named after the egyptian pharoah amenemhet III 1844-1797 BC son of sesostris III built the temple Herodotus(3092) and called "labyrinth"
4846-Tuthmosis
4847 Amenhotep
4848 Tutenchamun
Artaxerxes - was the sixth King of Kings of the Achaemenid Empire.
Ashurbanipal - King of the Neo-Assyrian Empire from 668 BC to c. 627 BC, the son of Esarhaddon and the last strong ruler of the empire, which is usually dated between 934 and 609 BC.[1] He is famed for amassing a
significant collection of cuneiform documents for his royal palace at Nineveh
Semirambis - wife of Onnes and Ninus, succeeding the latter to the throne of Assyria
Darius - was the fourth king of the Persian Achaemenid Empire. He ruled the empire at its peak, when it included much of West Asia, the Caucasus, parts of the Balkans (Thrace-Macedonia and Paeonia), most of the Black Sea coastal regions, parts of the North Caucasus, Central Asia, as far as the Indus Valley in the far east and portions of north and northeast Africa including Egypt (Mudrâya),[4] eastern Libya and coastal Sudan
Sisigambis - was the mother of Darius III of Persia, whose reign was ended during the wars of Alexander the Great. After she was captured by Alexander at the Battle of Issus, she became devoted to him, and Alexander referred to her as "mother"
I included the asteroid, Hermes because of Hermes Trismegistus was the syncretism of the Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian Thoth. In Hellenistic Egypt, the god Hermes was given as epithet the Greek name of Thoth. He was a patron of astrology and alchemy.
My Sumeria-Drakonia conjunction makes me think of Tiamat, the primordial goddess who has been depicted as a dragon or serpent. She was killed and her body split in half with top half being the heavens and the the bottom half being the earth.
The Draconic Zodiac is supposed to be based on that.
I like that I have Sumeria-Drakonia-Stargazer aspect.
My Sumeria-Drakonia conjunction is in conjunction to Psi Draco star Dziban in 13'25 Cancer.
My Mesopotamia-DNA-Atlantis-IC conjunction is in conjunction to Beta Draco star Rastaban in 11'33 Sagittarius.
My DNA aspects are interesting. I am about half African. I am part Ashkenazi Jewish, and so there is a strong possibility that I could have ancestry from Mesopotamia. I believe that I have some Sephardic Jewish ancestry from the Portuguese and Spanish that I have in me.
There is a possibility that one of my French Acadian forefathers may have been Jewish.
I like my Jupiter-Babylon aspect. Jupiter was associated with Marduk who was the supreme ruler in Babylonian Mythology.
My Neptune-Gilgamesh-Ishtar aspect seems to fit with the Epic of Gilgamesh Flood story.
My Babel'-Astronautica aspect, Mesopotamia-Astronomia aspect, my Sumerian-Stargazer aspect, my Euphrates-Gilgamesh-Astrowizard aspect, my Gilgamesh-Asteria-Astrometria aspect fit with my strong interest in Mesopotamian Astrology.
My Moon is in Gu-la (Aquarius) in the Babylonian Zodiac, and it was associated with Ea/Enki. I like the Moon trine Euphrates. That seems like strong Ea theme, considering he was the God of the Waters. My Moon is conjunct alpha Aquarius star Sadalmelik in 3'22 Pisces , theta star Ancha in 2'52 Pisces, and alpha Piscis Australis star Fomalhaut in 3'28 Pisces.
My Babel'-Aigyptios-Arabia-Ethiopia aspect makes me wonder if there were any cultural exchange between those regions.
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Post by Ava on Feb 23, 2019 19:52:12 GMT
What a phenomenal exploration of these asteroids, glaucus ! I'm rather ignorant about ancient history, but posts like these are intriguing, informative and helpful. Thank you! It's amazing how many strong connections you have to your natal chart. Listing the asteroids you mentioned in sets on ten. Including my own placements in parentheses for future reference - sorry if that confuses anyone. --- 161 Athor (8 Cap) 136818 Selqet (18 Aqua) 17503 Celestechild (18 Cap) 5808 Babel' (19 Sag) 19913 Aigyptios (11 Gem) 1157 Arabia (7 Aries) 1432 Ethiopia (4 Virgo, Rx) 100000 Astronautica (21 Libra) 2062 Aten (14 Cancer, Rx) 4848 Tutenchamun (12 Libra) To copy: 161, 136818, 17503, 5808, 19913, 1157, 1432, 100000, 2062, 4848 --- 69230 Hermes (4 Pisces) 13963 Euphrates (5 Virgo) 1812 Gilgamesh (25 Aqua) 4568 Menkaure (9 Libra) 24626 Astrowizard (0 Pisces) 376 Geometria (3 Cap) 7208 Ashurbanipal (22 Cap) 3811 Karma (17 Libra) 390 Alma (24 Leo) 7212 Artaxerxes (1 Sag) To copy: 69230, 13963, 1812, 4568, 24626, 376, 7208, 3811, 390, 7212 --- 2435 Horemheb (26 Scorpio) 5010 Amenemhet (6 Leo) 4412 Chephren (18 Sag) 2432 Soomana (7 Pisces) 1970 Sumeria (23 Aries) 620 Drakonia (29 Cancer) 896 Sphinx (13 Virgo) 5011 Ptah (12 Sag) 8766 Niger ( 1 Libra) 8958 Stargazer (13 Scorpio) To copy: 2435, 5010, 4412, 2432, 1970, 620, 896, 5011, 8766, 8958 --- 56000 Mesopotamia (28 Cap) 1198 Atlantis (11 Taurus) 55555 DNA (7 Cap) 1154 Astronomia (27 Taurus) 2436 Hatshepsut (9 Cap) 1193 Africa (22 Pisces) 584 Semiramis (25 Virgo) 4414 Sesostris (17 Leo) 4161 Amasis (25 Cap) 287 Nephthys (29 Cap) To copy: 56000, 1198, 55555, 1154, 2436, 1193, 584, 4414, 4161, 287 --- 25000 Astrometria (8 Aqua) 15417 Babylon (7 Sag) 216 Kleopatra (2 Pisces) 1813 Imhotep (9 Libra) 1923 Osiris (22 Pisces) 4846 Tuthmosis (18 Sag) 7210 Darius (24 Taurus) 13096 Tigris (23 Aqua) 4906 Seneferu (14 Sag) 4415 Echnaton (15 Cancer) To copy: 25000, 15417, 216, 1813, 1923, 4846, 7210, 13096, 4906, 4415 --- 1912 Anubis (15 Aries) 7088 Ishtar (7 Sag) 3497 Innanen (0 Libra) 1924 Horus (18 Cancer) 313 Chaldaea (6 Pisces) 7756 Scientia (1 Pisces) 658 Asteria (18 Virgo) 4412 Chephren (18 Sag) 7211 Xerxes (27 Libra) 1068 Nofretete (0 Pisces) To copy: 1912, 7088, 3497, 1924, 313, 7756, 658, 4412, 7211, 1068 --- 3199 Nefertiti (28 Scorpio) 622 Esther (14 Scorpio) 3199, 622
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Post by glaucus on Feb 24, 2019 0:55:46 GMT
You're welcome, Ava. I was amazed too I am more amazed by our asteroid synastry!
2435 Horemheb (26 Scorpio)squ my Mars 5010 Amenemhet (6 Leo) squa my Sun 136818 Selqet (18 Aqua) squ my Mercury 17503 Celestechild (18 Cap) sex my Mercury 19913 Aigyptios (11 Gem) conj my MC 896 Sphinx (13 Virgo) conj my Asc 5011 Ptah (12 Sag) conj my IC 8958 Stargazer (13 Scorpio) sex my Asc 1198 Atlantis (11 Taurus) squ my Lunar Nodes 1193 Africa (22 Pisces) tri my Venus 4906 Seneferu (14 Sag) squ my Asc 1924 Horus (18 Cancer) tri my Mercury 313 Chaldaea (6 Pisces) tri my Sun 622 Esther (14 Scorpio) sex my Asc 216 Kleopatra (2 Pisces) conj my Moon 1923 Osiris (22 Pisces) tri my Venus 69230 Hermes (4 Pisces) conj my Moon 13963 Euphrates (5 Virgo) sex my Sun 1812 Gilgamesh (25 Aqua) conj my Mars 376 Geometria (3 Cap) sex my Moon 7208 Ashurbanipal (22 Cap) sex my Venus
We have a lot of connections! Wow!
I edited my post I included 823 Sisigambis, and that's sex/tri my MC/IC it's also conj my South Lunar Node I added some of the asteroid aspecting my MC/IC to the aspects to my Lunar Nodes
Sisigambis was the mother of Darius III of Persia who was conquered by Alexander The Great
Thank you for sharing I hope more people share their asteroid aspects
I am curious about the Draconic connections, and I will look at those and post them in this thread
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 3:28:32 GMT
glaucus , prominent placements of ancient civilisations, such as Egyptian and Sumerian, are also thought to indicate previous experiences of lives in these regions which may impact on the current incarnation. There is another view that these asteroids point to our star origins. I have pasted a very interesting interpretation by Taineberry on LL for my Egyptian and Sumerian aspects below: Atlantis: opp DNA / Sumeria (0) Chaldea conjunct Spica/Arcturus(0) trine Moon (0) Kleopatra / Dido conjunct Saturn (0) Ur conjunct Mars (1) Interkosmos trine Giza (1) / GC (0) SGC conjunct Spirit and Nefertiti GC: conj Pallas (0); Giza (1); BML (1) Sun/Moon md pt (0), Semiramis (1) GA conjunct Isis, Osiris, Apollo, Sekhmet. All <1 Isis 13.18, Sekhmet 14, Apollo 14.14, Osiris 14.32 Antares / Aldebaran trine/sextile Leo Asc and Mars Ishtar conjunct Mesopotamia (4 minutes apart) Based on your aspects - Your ancient soul is prompting you to remember that your current human voyage was transformed when your soul entered a body which was the natural progeny of extra-terrestrial Nephilim (Annunaki) father and Adapa mother (Sumeria /DNA opp Atlantis - genetically engineered elite human hybrid on Atlantis). This genetic inheritance gave you certain intellectual advantages over other early humans which made you a powerful figure as you were part of the earliest group of earth-beings capable of experiencing duality. So, why was your soul attracted to an earthly sojourn in the first place? The answer lies firstly in your Regulus aspects. Regulus is associated with the Sphinx and with the Royal Line of Avyon which had its origins in the Lyran Star System – the homeland of all humanoid souls. Whilst these humanoids were highly evolved, their evolution was interrupted with the destruction of their homeworld in a Galactic war with Orion Groups. When the Cradle of Lyra was destroyed, this event became synonymous with the destruction of the Avatar level of consciousness in our Universal Time Matrix. It damaged and destroyed the Lyran DNA which was the embodiment of the Silicate Matrix and the capacity to live as a Krystal Avatar human being. Prior to Anunnaki the Lyran sentients were not dualistic. With the genetic engineering of the Anunnaki forced on them, there was an evolutionary change of direction for the homo-sapiens form that was created which lost its its ability to commune directly with higher powers, but gained the potential for kundalini awakening.
So – your entry into this form is indicated by Interkosmos trine Giza (Anunnaki) and GA conjunct Sekhmet (Royal Avyon lineage) / Apollo (Atlantean) / Osiris & Isis (Anunnaki / Egyptian.
To explain her interpretation, Taineberry added this about galactic history: " Before the Annunaki (Nephlim) there were two ancient sentient species evolving on earth – one descended from the Royal House of Avyon (human - Adamu - associated with Regulus/ Lyra (near Vega)/ Sirius / the Sphinx/ early Atlantis / Devine); the other from the Royal House of Aln (Carian - associated with Orion/ Alpha Draconi/ Merlin / Kaali). The natural evolution of these beings were interrupted when the Anunnaki (Nephilim) arrived on earth. The Anunnaki (Associated with Orion/ Sirius / Giza pyramids(not the Sphinx which pre-dated their arrival) / late Atlantis / Nibiru/ Phaeton, Sumeria / Serpentis / Lucifer / Mesopotamia / Babel) were hybrid beings (Orion/Siran) who came to earth to mine gold and genetically interfered with both sentient species mentioned above. Results were mixed – ranging from abominations to slaves to “elite” human hybrids."There are many websites on the topic of galactic history - here's one such that explains the advent of the Annunaki: www.riseearth.com/2018/02/ancient-sumer-anunnaki-and-ancient.htmlWhich of these views do you ascribe to, if any?
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Post by Ava on Feb 24, 2019 6:07:53 GMT
glaucusYes, nice to see our connections, thank you! Some more of my placements link in here: 5010 Amenemhet (6 Leo) squa my Sun -- my rectified ASC @ 7 Leo 5011 Ptah (12 Sag) conj my IC -- my Neptune @ 12 Sag 1198 Atlantis (11 Taurus) squ my Lunar Nodes -- my Hera @ 10 Taurus, Isis @ 12 Taurus 1924 Horus (18 Cancer) tri my Mercury -- my moon @ 18 Pisces, NN @ 20 Scorpio 313 Chaldaea (6 Pisces) tri my Sun -- my Uranus @ 6 Scorpio Still not sure what a lot of this means...the asteroid implications, that is. I also hope others join in; maybe we'll find some patterns or strong, common degrees amongst ourselves. @astrokeen Reading the above, is it possible to trace one's existence through multiple lifetimes, with one natal chart? It's bewildering to me that Taineberry seems to have such a clear grasp on the subject and can confidently offer a reading. I suppose much of it is more intuitive than by method?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 9:02:47 GMT
Ava , it does sound weird and far fetched. Some people would argue, however, that it is no more far-fetched than believing distant planets have any control over our personalities or lives. One could counter argue that there is a way of testing the validity of those assumptions through experience, as in Scorpio Suns have (some will say these are unscientific and untestable beliefs) many traits in common. On the other hand, belief in our earth origins cannot be tested in anyway. Authors like Zecharia Sitchin have attributed the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Anunnaki, which he stated was a race of extraterrestrials from a planet beyond Neptune called Nibiru. He based his discoveries on his own study of Sumerian writings and artefacts, but, of course, invited wide ranging criticisms. I questioned Taineberry on her beliefs, and she said she had studied and cross referenced numerous similar accounts. She had also experienced direct knowing through meditation. So, what a chart can or cannot do is anyone's belief of what is believable or sensible.
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Post by glaucus on Feb 24, 2019 12:26:32 GMT
I just try to keep an open mind. I do believe in reincarnation, and that it can involve life on on other planets.
Aspects between my Tropical natal and Draconic natal
TR Sun in 5'20 Scorpio conj DR Seneferu in 4'35 Scorpio
TR Moon in 3'11 Pisces conj DR Soomana in 2'04 Pisces opp DR Drakonia in 2'51 Virgo opp DR Sumeria in 3'19 Virgo
TR Asc/Desc in 13'26 Virgo/Pisces opp/conj DR Chaldaea in 13'55 Pisces
DR Asc/Desc in 2'58 Scorpio/Taurus conj/opp TR Euphrates in 3'09 Scorpio
TR MC/IC in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius conj/opp DR Amasis in 11'25 Gemini opp/conj DR Sekhmet in 11'45 Sagittarius
TR Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio conj DR Hathor in 18'56 Scorpio
TR Venus in 21'47 Scorpio conj DR Ashurbanipal in 22'24 Scorpio conj DR Geometria in 22'34 Scorpio conj DR Karma in 22'49 Scorpio
TR Mars in 25'54 Aquarius conj DR Aten in 25'29 Aquarius
TR Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius opp DR Africa in 0'45 Gemini
TR Pluto in 0'51 Libra conj DR Sisigambis in 0'48 Libra
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Post by Ava on Feb 24, 2019 13:14:30 GMT
Hi @astrokeen , I didn't mean to suggest it's not credible or believable, just surprising. I'd be curious to see what Taineberry thought of my chart, too. I just wonder how this fits in with other beliefs. For instance, if reincarnation is true, and we have a different natal chart each time, how does the "code" (asteroid markings) of our ancient past stay preserved? Or maybe it's something else, where for example an asteroid stellium appearing in a certain sign represents the approach we take with that energy? That's what I meant by "method," I wonder if there are any ground rules or revelations from other worlds that supply more context. My sun is exactly conjunct Vega @ 15 Cap. Square: 14 Aries Ate - "goddess of mischief and destruction in Greek mythology" (all these quotes from wikipedia) 15 Aries Hephaistos - "Hephaestus made all the weapons of the gods in Olympus" 15 Aries Anubis - "god associated with mummification and the afterlife" 16 Aries Jupiter exactly conjunct draconic Venus 16 Aries Amalthea - "tender goddess" "foster-mother of Zeus" aka Adamanthea - "untameable" Quincunx: 14 Gemini Telephus 16.01 Gemini Giza-Mars, Rx 16 Gemini Ur "The star Vega (Wega) is one of the brightest stars in the heavens. It is definitely of the nature of Venus.... Arabic for The Falling Eagle, Vega is the principal star in constellation Lyra. The brightest fixed star of the northern sky has a Venus nature with a blend of Neptune and Mercury. The Babylonians called Vega the Star of the Queen of Life. In a good cosmic configuration, Vega is supposed to give artistic talents, especially for music and acting, but also a liking for good living. With eccentric artists, this may lead to a debauched life."astrologyking.com/vega-star/I have Venus (6 Sag) novile to my sun, and Venus is conjunct Babylon-Ishtar-Athene. Putting it all together I wonder if anyone would read that like: I brought my Lyran energy to ancient Babylon and that went well (novile = positive aspect) but later in Mesopotomia/Egypt tried to channel any remaining power into acting as some kind of "seer" but ran into trouble (square/quincunx energy) and even later, in Greece, those failures emboldened a more war-like stance, though I never left behind the more musical and nurturing qualities (Athene, Amalthea). Also I have Vesta (0 Aries) opposing Innanen (0 Libra). "Inanna is an ancient Mesopotamian goddess associated with love, beauty, sex, desire, fertility, war, justice, and political power." --> well that kind of brings all the above themes together. For me, it's all as good as a vague sci-fi script since it's not backed by any real knowledge, but still interesting to imagine. Pls don't quote, not sure if I want to address it this way, I'm out of my depth but driven by curiosity. ---- Edit: Reading more about Innana/Ishtar- "queen of heaven": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inanna"Inanna-Ishtar is alluded to in the Hebrew Bible and she greatly influenced the Phoenician goddess Astarte, who later influenced the development of the Greek goddess Aphrodite." Aspecting my 16 Gem Mars: 16.36 Virgo Astarte (trine my sun) 15.38 Sag Aphrodite (semisextile to my sun) "These difficulties led some early Assyriologists to suggest that Inanna may have originally been a Proto-Euphratean goddess, possibly related to the Hurrian mother goddess Hannahannah, who was only later accepted into the Sumerian pantheon. This idea was supported by Inanna's youthfulness, and as well as the fact that, unlike the other Sumerian divinities, she seems to have initially lacked a distinct sphere of responsibilities." 18.24 Aqua 1668 Hanna (square my mean node) "Inanna-Ishtar was associated with lions,[56][57] which the ancient Mesopotamians regarded as a symbol of power.[56] Her associations with lions began during Sumerian times;[57] a chlorite bowl from the temple of Inanna at Nippur depicts a large feline battling a giant snake and a cuneiform inscription on the bowl reads "Inanna and the Serpent," indicating that the cat is supposed to represent the goddess.[57] During the Akkadian Period, Ishtar was frequently depicted as a heavily armed warrior goddess with a lion as one of her attributes." 4.15 Scorpio, my 319 Leona "Anthropologist Kevin Tuite argues that the Georgian goddess Dali was also influenced by Inanna" 6.08 Scorpio, my 2919 Dali >>> Okay I finally actually read an entire wikipedia article about mythology!
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Post by Ava on Feb 24, 2019 15:50:36 GMT
One more bit about Innana:
"Nanaya (Sumerian 𒀭𒈾𒈾𒀀, DNA.NA.A; also transcribed as "Nanâ", "Nanãy", "Nanaja", "Nanãja", or '"Nanãya"; in Greek: Ναναια or Νανα; Aramaic: ננױננאױ) is the canonical name for a goddess worshipped by the Sumerians and Akkadians, a deity who personified voluptuousness and sexuality,[1] and warfare.[2] Her cult was large and was spread as far as Egypt, Syria, and Iran. She later became syncretised as an aspect of Inanna."
1203 Nanna
I have this @ 11.56 Aries, conjunct true Lilith, h13, @ 10.58 Aries, Rx.
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Post by glaucus on Feb 24, 2019 20:06:43 GMT
Nanna was the Sumerian Moon god. The Akkadians knew him as Sin. He was first-born son of Enlil and Ninlil. His wife was Ningal. He was father of Inanna and the Sungod Utu. His primary symbol was the Bull. He was patron deity of Ur. oracc.museum.upenn.edu/amgg/listofdeities/nannasuen/MOON & THE STAR CLUSTER & THE OLD MAN (The Pleiades & Perseus) The Moon is listed as having two Exaltations, namely the Star Cluster and the Old Man, which correspond to the Greek Pleiades and Perseus respectively. Unlike the other Exaltations that are founded on the time that their marker stars rise, the Moon's Exaltations are selected in terms of their setting time. The reason for this divergence is to be found in the role that the Moon plays in the calendar system. In the Babylonian calendar each month began with the sighting of the New Moon over the western horizon shortly after sunset - thus the stars and constellations within which it was seen were in the process of setting. Like most ancient societies of the Near East, the Babylonians used what is called a luni-solar calendar. In this type of calendar the months are directly based on the observed phases of the Moon and in order to synchronise the lunar months with the solar year an extra 'intercalary' month was added every three years or so. There were several methods used to determine the correct time to add this extra month - the most famous involved observing when the conjunction of the Moon and Star Cluster took place. This scheme states that the year is 'standard' if the Star Cluster and the Moon are in conjunction on the first day of the year, but if their conjunction falls on the third day then that year is 'surplus' and requires an extra month to be added.[12] The Exaltations of the Sun and Moon are therefore primarily based on the workings of the calendar. The Sun is located in the Hired Man at the start of the New Year and the Moon occupies its ideal placement in the Star Cluster thus generating a positive sign that the coming year would be composed of an ideal 12 months rather than an inauspicious count of 13 months. As the Moon's conjunction with the Star Cluster was such a significant event it forms the basis of a considerable number of celestial omens, though for our purposes a single example will suffice: 'If the Star Cluster comes close to the top of the Moon & stands there: the king will exercise world dominion & expand his land'. Similarly, the sighting of the Moon with the Old Man presages good fortune to the king and his realm: 'If the star of the Old Man comes to the top of the Moon and stands there: the king will stand in triumph, he will become old and expand the land; he will be happy about his land; there will be truth and justice in the land'. www.skyscript.co.uk/exaltations.htmlMul.Mul (Pleiades) is one of the 17 constellations listed in the Mul.Apin. It's the first one in order listed. Pleiades are in the beginning part of Gemini in the Tropical Zodiac now. In the Sidereal Zodiac, Pleiades are in early Taurus. The Moon's exaltation degree is 3 degrees Taurus.
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Post by lumina on Feb 24, 2019 20:19:50 GMT
i have Nanna on 16 Capricorn, exactly opposing my Saturn. 16-17 degrees are very interesting in my chart. (just those I remembered otoh)
my name 16°58 Taurus
Karma 16°01 Gemini
Saturn 16°57 Cancer
Pandora 16°22 Virgo
Kama 16°21 Libra
Lancelot 16°47 Scorpio Walpurga 18°48 Scorpio
Erato 15°10 Sag
Nanna 16°10 Cap
Ur 16°13 Aquarius Moon 17°07 Aquarius
Juno 16°58 Pisces
just looked up Walpurga for the first time, and coincidentally it seems her feast day (day of her death, too) is the 25th february.Of course 1st may is also a big Walpurga-feast.
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Post by Ava on Feb 25, 2019 2:01:09 GMT
Thank you again glaucus . I like hearing how the ancient Babylonians star-gazed and built their calendar years. I wonder how much truth was in those predictions. lumina - you're just missing Aries there. Your draconic sun fits right in. Weird how your Karma is exact to the minute on my Mars-Giza. It's hard for me to imagine myself in any ancient Egyptian type of life. It's always given me a bad feeling, especially the art, I seldom have a happy reaction to any of it. I've known plenty of people who thought they had a past life there, and it makes them feel mystical and enchanted, but for me there has always been inexplicable sadness. And I dream of world travel but never thought of going to the pyramids. Maybe I was Jewish and held there in slavery. The Human Design system says I am a Generator and was probably a pyramid-building slave. Okay great. Maybe that's why I'm taking this life easy, recovery is a long process.
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Post by glaucus on Feb 25, 2019 20:50:03 GMT
I have a strong Vega influence in my astrological nativity via paran, but I don't know if it has to do with Starseed origins. an orb of 30 minutes of arc Asc - Rising Desc - Setting MC - Culminating IC - Anti-culminating
Mercury Asc, Vega Asc - '07 Mars Desc, Vega Desc - '27
Mercury is also in parans with other stars Mercury Asc, alpha Aquarius Sadalmelik IC - '09 Mercury Asc, alpha Grus Alnair IC - '25
so Mercury,Vega, Sadalmelik, and Alnair are linked together via paran
interpretation from: Star and Planet Combinations by Bernadette Brady
Mercury-Vega - A visionary with a very persuasive voice and/or charismatic ideas. To be interested in the secrets, fantasy writing or the mythology of different cultures
Mars-Vega - An imaginative, inventive person; or too idealistic. Not allowing the limitations of others to restrict one's creative ideas
Mercury-Sadalmelik - An agile and nimble person whose ideas appeal to others. An intuitive creative thinker, one who can see business opportunities where others cannot
Alnair - alpha, (Al Nair), marking the body of the bird Crane, is the 2nd-magnitude star southwest from Fomalhaut when the latter culminates in autumn evenings, itself coming to the meridian on the 11th of October. It was Al Tizini's Al Na'ir, the Bright One, i. e. of the Fish's tail (Pisces Austrinus), when that constellation extended over the stars of our Grus. The Chinese knew it as Ke.
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Post by Ava on Feb 26, 2019 13:33:54 GMT
Thank you glaucus, for sharing so much knowledge with us. It's great to keep seeing posts about ancient astrology, across the globe, and to learn different terms and techniques. "Mercury Asc, Vega Asc - '07 Mars Desc, Vega Desc - '27" I don't quite understand this though. If Mercury and Vega are not conjunct natally, what does that orb listed there represent? I've been in many discussions about starseeds without ever hooking into the idea seriously. Though a few years ago I had some strange nights of dreaming, waking up to an incredibly loud noise that neither hurt my ears nor woke my family up, and when I tried to get back into sleep, a sort of message came out of the noise telling me that I am a star. I know we're made of stardust. But as I dwelled on that later I got a sense that perhaps stars are conscious, and somehow our own consciousness links back into certain stars. Whatever that noise was, it felt alien but almost as if "my people" came to remind me. I assume it would work like that for everyone since we are all made of the same components; I don't know how anyone could NOT be starseed?
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Post by glaucus on Feb 26, 2019 17:42:11 GMT
"I don't quite understand this though. If Mercury and Vega are not conjunct natally, what does that orb listed there represent?" They are not conjunct in ecliptic longitude, but they are conjunct via paran Mercury Asc, Vega Asc is a conjunction paran Mars Desc, Vega Desc is a conjunction paran The program, Prometheus listed the orb of the paran in arc In modern astrology the term Paran (short for Paranatellonta) is generally used to describe stars or planets that are angular as a planet hits the ascendant, MC, Descendant or IC. For example, the parans of Mercury would be those stars or planets that were rising, culminating, descending of located upon the IC at the same time that Mercury is in any or those positions. Thus if the fixed star Regulus culminates on the Midheaven as Mercury rises on the ascendant it is referred to as a paran of Mercury and considered to have an influence upon its meaning. www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/paran.htmlRobert Hand wrote: "Parans are the true angular relationship between planets and/or stars. When a planetary body rises, sets, culminates, or is at the nadir (the lowest point under the earth/the foundation of the chart), and another planet or star is exactly rising, setting, culminating, or at the nadir, they are said to be in paran with one another. Parans in a natal chart, as well as in mundane (world event) astrology, are quite illuminating. They show intense combined energy." Parans are the true angular relationship between planets and/or stars. When a planetary body rises, sets, culminates, or is at the nadir (the lowest point under the earth/the foundation of the chart), and another planet or star is exactly rising, setting, culminating, or at the nadir, they are said to be in paran with one another. Parans in a natal chart, as well as in mundane (world event) astrology, are quite illuminating. They show intense combined energy. Charles Jayne in 'Horoscope Interpretation Outlined' notes: "It has been found that if during the prior or following day two bodies have this relationship, even if they are not on those local planes now, they still act in a paran manner." ambientastrology.com/articles/2012/9/20/parans-resurfaced.html The Egyptian and Mesopotamian manner of linking stars with planets was to observe when a star and planet ‘touched the earth’ at the same time. The image of a cross within a circle was and still is a symbol for how the earth touches the divine sky. In religious expression it is used to show how the mortal world can become divine or how it touches the divine, as can be seen in the two ancient crosses given below. In astrology this sacred union is represented by the angles of the chart – Ascendant, Midheaven, Descendant, and IC. If a star and a planet were both on this cross at the same time this is known as a paran relationship, a union of the divine star with the more worldly planet and the very earth itself. skydoginstitute.com/faq/planetary-movements/seven-things-astrologers-should-know-about-fixed-stars-bernadette-brady/Whereas aspects between planets are not location-specific, star-planet parans are very latitude-dependent. Longitude doesn't affect them so strongly, but latitude affects them very much. What this means in practice is that a particular latitude or band of latitudes will be linked with a star-planet relationship for a specifiable period of time. In other words, a village, town or city will resonate with a star-planet relationship between certain dates. Sometimes the band of latitudes is broad - for instance, 10 degrees of latitude could be related to a star-planet paran - other times the band is very narrow and focused." "Just like aspects, star-planet parans come and go: they build to an ever-closer state, reach exactitude, and then fade. This is similar to an aspect being 'within orb', getting closer to the exact aspect, and then separating from exactitude. Because planets move retrograde as well as direct ('backwards' as well as 'forwards') star-planet parans can come back again, sometimes more than once, so that there will sometimes be a series of these parans linking with a latitude band throughout several months." www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/parans-5603842/What I listed were rotated parans. They're Bernadette Brady's preferred method of using stars. She doesn't believe in projecting ecliptic longitude for stars which is a method that Diana Rosenberg and most astrologers have used since Ptolemy listed the stars in his astronomical book, Almagest. I also posted about parans and mundane aspects by Kenneth Bowser astrogarden.proboards.com/thread/1599/parans-aka-mundane-aspects
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Post by glaucus on Feb 27, 2019 5:25:06 GMT
I edited my last reply. I wanted to give more info about parans.
The use of Right Ascension, Declination, and parans could help isolate the effects of stars that are close in longitude
perfect example
Alpha Bootes star Arcturus and Alpha Virgo star Spica even though these stars are located in different constellations, they are conjunct less than half a degree orb in ecliptic longitude
Arcturus' Ecliptic Longitude is 24'30 Libra Spica's Ecliptic Longitude is 24'06 Libra The exact conjunctions of the Sun to Arcturus and Spica occurs on October 17th
Arcturus' Latitude is 30'43 North Spica's Latitude is 2'03 South Arcturus has an extremely high latitude, and it's a star that is far away from the ecliptic. Spica's latitude is low to the point that it's near the ecliptic
Arcturus' Right Ascension is 14hr16m32s (Zodiac longitude Equivalent is 4'08 Scorpio) Spica's Right Ascension is 13hr26m12s (Zodiac longitude Equivalent is 21'33 Libra) the exact conjunction of the Sun to Arcturus occurs on October 30th the exact conjunction of the Sun to Spica occurs on October 17th
notice that Sun is exactly conjunct Spica in both Ecliptic Longitude and Right Ascension on October 17th. That makes sense for Spica is near the ecliptic.
I was born on October 29, 1971 San Francisco, CA 3:20 AM
Sun's Right Ascension is 14hr12m10s (Zodiac Longitude Equivalent is 3'02 Scorpio) Arcturus'Right Ascension is 14hr14m23s (Zodiac Longitude Equivalent is 3'35 Scorpio) my Sun is conjunct Arcturus in Right Ascension with 2 minutes,13seconds of time orb which is equivalent to an orb of 33 minutes of arc
I also have Sun and Arcturus in a conjunction via paran
Sun MC,Arcturus MC - '08
I have no Sun-Spica parans
Spica is my Heliacal Rising Star
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Post by glaucus on Mar 8, 2019 6:04:03 GMT
I couldn't help noticing some things with the asteroid nodes.
Sun in 5'20 Scorpio conj/opp Helio N Kleopatra in 5'42 Scorpio/Taurus conj/opp Helio N Ninkasi in 5'16 Scorpio/Taurus - Sumerian Goddess of Beer,Alcohol opp/conj Helio N Imhotep in 5'26 Taurus/Scorpio opp/conj Helio N Hermes in 4'54 Taurus/Scorpio tri/sex Helio N Paradise in 6'01 Pisces/Virgo trine Geo SN Amasis in 5'32 Pisces tri Geo NN Anubis in 5'03 Cancer squ Helio N Darius in 4'41 Leo/Aquarius squ Geo SN Alma in 5'30 Leo squ Geo SN Celestechild in 5'38 Leo squ Geo NN Scientia in 6'17 Leo squ Geo NN L'Aquila in 6'18 Aquarius - The Eagle squ Geo NN Echnaton in 5'42 Aquarius squ Geo SN Chant in 5'45 Aquarius sex Geo NN Geometria in 6'14 Capricorn sex Geo SN Phoinix in 4'49 Virgo sex Geo SN Sumeria in 4'44 Virgo
Moon in 3'11 Pisces conj/opp Helio N Fay in 3'25 Pisces/Virgo - fay as in otherworldly conj Geo NN Asteria 2'58 Pisces conj Geo NN Gabriella in 2'15 Pisces - Archangel Gabriel conj Geo SN Hathor in 4'05 Pisces opp Geo NN Lucifer in 4'09 Virgo opp Geo SN Bless in 3'54 Virgo opp/conj Helio N Khufu in 2'25 Virgo/Pisces opp/conj Helio N Angel in 2'28 Virgo/Pisces tri Geo NN Hathor in 4'06 Scorpio tri Geo SN Fortuna in 2'36 Scorpio tri Geo NN Miriam in 2'16 Scorpio tri Geo NN Stonehenge in 2'46 Scorpio tri/sex Helio N Celestechild in 4'03 Cancer tri Geo SN Hokule'a in 3'52 Cancer - Polynesian for Arcturus tri Geo SN Sphinx in 2'33 Cancer squ Helio N Celestia in 3'49 Gemini/Sagittarius squ Helio N Israel in 3'39 Gemini/Sagittarius squ Geo SN Hatshephut in 2'17 Gemini squ Helio N Hypnos in 3'52 Sagittarius/Gemini squa Helio N Hela in 3'11 Sagittarius/Gemini squ Geo SN Porta Coeli in 3'44 Sagittarius - Gateway of Heaven squ Geo NN Hokule'a in 3'35 Sagittarius squ Geo NN Adonis in 3'35 Sagittarius squ Geo NN Sisigambis in 3'43 Sagittarius sex/tri Helio N Harmonia in 4'09 Capricorn/Cancer sex/tri Helio N Celestechild in 4'03 Capricorn/Cancer sex/tri Geo SN Cohen in 2'53 Capricorn - Cohenim sex/tri Geo SN Scientia in 2'37 Capricorn
Asc/Desc in 13'26 Virgo/Pisces conj Helio N Sunshine in 14'01 Virgo/Pisces conj/opp Geo SN Philosophia in 13'29 Virgo conj/opp Geo NN Sokrates in 13'23 Virgo conj/opp Helio N Memoria in 13'04 Virgo/Pisces conj/opp Geo NN Church in 12'25 Virgo opp Helio N Astarte in 13'50 Pisces/Virgo opp Helio N Stargazer in 13'43 Pisces/Virgo opp/conj Geo SN Kuiper in 12'44 Pisces - The Kuiper Belt opp/conj Geo NN Xerxes in 12'37 Pisces opp Helio N Meta in 12'36 Pisces/Virgo - Beyond opp/conj Geo SN Bilkis in 13'22 Pisces opp/conj Geo SN Gilgamesh in 13'49 Pisces opp Helio N Aschera in 12'27 Pisces/Virgo - Asherah tri Helio N Bohemia in 13'57 Capricorn/Cancer tri/sex Geo NN Intel in 13'29 Capricorn tri Helio N Interkosmos in 13'14 Capricorn/Cancer tri/sex Geo NN Urania in 14'12 Capricorn tri/sex Geo NN Devine in 12'39 Capricorn squ Helio N Scheherezade in 14'05 Sagittarius/Gemini squ Geo SN Lovejoy in 13'04 Sagittarius squ Geo SN Astronomia in 13'16 Sagittarius squ Helio N Sphinx in 14'15 Gemini/Sagittarius squ Helio N Coppernicus in 13'11 Gemini/Sagittarius squ Geo SN Seraphina in 13'47 Gemini - Seraphim sex Helio N Dawn in 13'01 Cancer/Capricorn sex/trine Helio N Ishtar in 12'34 Cancer/Capricorn sex Helio N Ptah in 14'22 Scorpio/Taurus sex/tri Geo NN Nanna in 13'03 Scorpio
MC/IC in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius conj Helio N Porta Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - Gateway of Heaven opp/conj Geo SN Liberatrix in 11'14 Sagittarius opp/conj Geo NN Essene in 11'11 Sagittarius opp/conj Geo SN Inca in 11'10 Sagittarius opp/conj Geo SN Reiki in 11'08 Sagittarius opp/conj Geo SN Apophis in 10'45 Sagittarius opp/conj Geo NN Lilith in 10'30 Sagittarius tri/sex Helio N Bless in 11'40 Aquarius/Leo tri/sex Geo SN Aigyptios in 11'31 Aquarius tri/sex Geo SN Justitia in 11'09 Aquarius tri/sex Geo NN Astrowizard in 10'27 Libra tri/sex Geo Spacewatch in 10'26 Libra squ Geo NN Celestia in 11'01 Virgo squ Geo NN Esther in 11'41 Virgo squ Geo NN Eucharis in 12'02 Virgo - eucharist squ Helio N Lovelock in 11'54 Virgo/Pisces squ Helio N Constantia in 11'35 Virgo/Pisces squ Helio N Magdalena in 11'35 Virgo/Pisces squ Geo NN Nephthys in 11'49 Virgo squ Helio N Innanen in 12'13 Virgo/Pisces squ Geo SN L'Aquila in 10'22 Virgo squ Helio N Prudentia in 11'51 Pisces/Virgo sex/tri Helio N Plato in 11'30 Aries/Libra sex/tri Helio N Ptolemaeus in 10'40 Leo/Aquarius
Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio conj Geo NN United Nations in 17'56 Scorpio conj Geo SN Sekhmet in 17'31 Scorpio conj/opp Helio N Hawaii in 19'21 Scorpio/Taurus conj/opp Helio N Euphrates in 17'54 Scorpio/Taurus tri/sex Helio N Scientia in 17'51 Cancer/Capricorn tri/sex Helio N Aten in 18'25 Cancer/Capricorn squ Geo NN Astarte in 19'04 Aquarius squ Geo NN Leviathan in 19'00 Aquarius squ Geo NN Meta in 18'40 Aquarius squ Geo SN Lovelock in 17'42 Aquarius sex Geo NN Echnaton in 18'33 Virgo sex Geo SN Arabia in 18'51 Virgo
Venus in 21'47 Scorpio conj Geo SN Vaticana in 21'16 Scorpio opp/conj Helio N United Nations in 22'14 Taurus/Scorpio tri Geo NN Michel in 21'19 Cancer - Archangel Michael tri/sex Helio N Asteria in 21'40 Pisces/Virgo tri/sex Helio N Adonis in 21'36 Pisces/Virgo squ Helio N Celestia in 21'03 Leo/Aquarius squ Helio N Aigyptios in 21'39 Leo squ Geo NN Giza in 21'43 Leo squ Geo NN Seneferu in 21'18 Leo squ Helio N Esther in 22'42 Leo squ Helio N Nephthys in 22'25 Leo squ Helio N Unitas in 21'57 Leo/Aquarius squ Geo SN Innanen in 22'37 Aquarius sex/tri Geo NN Angelina in 21'14 Capricorn
Mars in 25'54 Aquarius conj/opp Helio N L'Aquila in 26'09 Aquarius/Leo opp/conj Helio N Chant in 25'56 Leo/Aquarius tri/sex Geo SN Tuthmosis in 25'52 Libra tri/sex Helio N Apophis in 25'14 Libra/Aries squ Geo SN Euphrates in 25'29 Taurus squ Geo NN Africa in 26'46 Taurus squ Geo SN Hawaii in 26'41 Taurus sex/tri Helio N Mesopotamia in 25'08 Aries/Libra sex tri Geo SN Ishtar in 26'16 Sagittarius
Jupiter in 8'16 Sagittarius conj Geo SN Babylon in 8'53 Sagittarius conj Geo SN Isis in 9'02 Sagittarius opp Geo NN Vaticana in 7'31 Gemini tri Geo SN Interkosmos in 9'07 Leo tri Geo SN Semirambis in 7'57 Leo sex/tri Helio N Menkaure in 7'35 Aries/Libra sex/tri Helio N Soomana in 7'56 Aries/Libra - Hopi for stargirl squ Geo NN Babel' in 8'45 Virgo squ Geo NN Aten in 7'46 Virgo squ Geo NN Spirit in 9'04 Pisces squ Geo SN Amenephet in 7'44 Pisces squ Geo NN Astronautica in 7'45 Pisces squ Geo NN Raphaela in 8'53 Pisces - Archangel Raphael squ Helio N Karma in 8'58 Pisces/Virgo squ Geo SN Chaldaea in 8'18 Pisces sex/tri Geo NN Philosophia in 9'07 Aquarius sex Helio N Christian in 8'10 Aquarius/Leo sex Geo SN Psyche in 8'10 Aquarius sex Geo NN Horemheb in 8'03 Aquarius sex/tri Helio N Urania in 7'42 Aquarius sex/tri Helio N Sootiyo in 8'41 Libra/Aries - Hopi for starboy sex Geo NN Gilgamesh in 7'49 Libra sex Geo NN Chaldaea in 9'10 Libra
Saturn in 5'01 Gemini R conj Geo NN United Nations in 5'06 Gemini opp Geo NN Atlantis in 5'18 Sagittarius opp/conj Helio N Oriola in 4'31 Sagittarius - Archangel Uriel tri Geo NN Amenephet in 6'00 Libra tri Geo SN Osiris in 5'08 Libra tri Geo NN Aristoteles in 4'45 Libra - Aristotle tri Geo SN Horus in 4'37 Libra tri Geo NN Gabriella in 4'22 Libra tri Geo NN Sesostris in 4'17 Libra tri/sex Helio N Artaxerxes in 4'13 Libra/Aries squ Geo SN Amasis in 5'32 Pisces squ Geo SN Phoinix in 4'49 Virgo squa Geo SN Sumeria in 4'44 Virgo sex Geo NN Athor in 6'03 Aries
Lunar Nodes in 10'29 Aquarius/Leo con Helio N Angelina in 9'51 Aquarius/Leo conj/opp Helio N Bless in 11'40 Aquarius/Leo conj/opp Geo SN Aigyptios in 11'31 Aquarius Geo SN Justitia in 11'09 Aquarius opp/conj Geo NN Ashurbanipal in 11'02 Leo opp Helio N Ptolemaeus in 10'40 Leo/Aquarius tri/sex Geo SN Xerxes in 9'47 Libra tri/sex Geo NN Astrowizard in 10'27 Libra squ Geo SN Angelica in 10'03 Scorpio squ Helio N Sumerkin in 10'34 Taurus/Scorpio sex/tri Geo NN Lilith in 10'30 Sagittarius sex/tri Helio N Plato in 11'30 Aries/Libra sex/tri Helio N Ptah in 11'02 Aries/Libra
Uranus in 15'17 Libra conj Geo NN Astronautica in 15'44 Libra conj Geo SN Soomana in 15'57 Libra conj Geo NN Magion in 14'50 Libra conj Geo NN Menkaure in 14'33 Libra conj/oppose Helio N Golden in 14'37 Libra/Aries tri/sex Helio N Sisigambis in 15'11 Gemini squ Geo N Essene in 15'04 Cancer
Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius conj Geo NN Sphinx in 1'10 Sagittarius tri/sex Helio N Xerxes in 2'07 Aries/Libra squ Geo NN Angelina in 2'02 Virgo squ Geo NN Aigyptios in 1'52 Virgo squ Geo NN Chephren in 1'36 Virgo squ Geo NN Osiris in 1'57 Pisces sex Geo NN Amasis in 2'34 Libra
I left out asteroid, Vaticana I actually have it in 4'24 Aquarius, and it is square my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio and trine my retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini This is definitely about the Roman Catholic Church. I have Venus conj Geo SN Vaticana. I can't help think that I had a karmic pastlife involving the Roman Catholic Church.
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