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Post by ciel on Jan 12, 2019 17:56:48 GMT
You are asking what you are not doing.
and @ava when did I extensively commented on my mind power, that sounds silly to me and Im kinda offended? I dont remember saying it not even for once or implying it (I guess thats what you are saying).
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Jan 12, 2019 17:58:27 GMT
*shrug* Okay, if you say so. Peace out.  |
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Post by ciel on Jan 12, 2019 18:05:32 GMT
okay it would be nice if had a good conversation *shrug* but I guess not.
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Post by midnight on Jan 12, 2019 19:28:28 GMT
ciel English is my third language. I too make plenty of mistakes. Even grammar is a bit different in my native language, ie. like places when you put "comma" . So don't worry, this comminity is really nice and friendly. Some misunderstandidngs and differences in opinions only make it more lively and interesting.
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Post by ciel on Jan 12, 2019 20:07:46 GMT
midnight I feel the same way but I think you are missing a point. I wasnt the one who made such assumptions. So why are you telling this to me? Trying to do your best to find something to get offended is not my ideal sense of friendship.
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Post by midnight on Jan 12, 2019 21:00:53 GMT
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Post by Ava on Jan 12, 2019 21:45:09 GMT
It doesn't have to have perfect grammar, but we're trying to understand you and expect some level of involvement in the discussion. Yes Otherwise it looks antagonistic, filling threads with careless jibberish. |
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Post by Ava on Jan 12, 2019 22:08:24 GMT
What I'm saying ciel, is you are not really all that believable to me. You're only 18, and smart enough to know four languages and have well-developed opinions on astrology, yet you can't quite understand that you ought to put periods at the ends of your sentences? Why, because only English uses periods? |
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Post by ciel on Jan 12, 2019 22:09:52 GMT
midnight I ve realised you havent really made any grammatical mistakes except for this post. Have you? ( ¬_¬)
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Post by midnight on Jan 12, 2019 22:59:21 GMT
midnight I ve realised you havent really made any grammatical mistakes except for this post. Have you? ( ¬_¬) Who knows?.. |
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Post by geminiblues on Jan 14, 2019 8:06:53 GMT
As a Gemini sun and Promethean Gemini Mercury, I firmly believe that Virgo's true ruler is not Mercury. I just don't see Hermes fit Virgo. But, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
I can make an argument for Ceres to be promoted to ruling planet status. It's big enough to be considered a planetoid, larger than Pluto, and in a close enough orbit to matter. The question for me is, which sign? I'd believe either Virgo or Taurus, and can make a case (in true Gemini fashion) for either. Then again, maybe because it doesn't clearly fit one so much better than the other is the argument against it being the ruler for either...
I don't like either Vesta or Pallas for rulers. I don't think either has enough gravitas. And while I'm a believer in the strength of Chiron, I don't think it would be a good fit for any of the signs. Maybe it's just because I feel my Chiron a little too sensitively, but I'd be rather depressed if Chiron were my ruling planet!
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Post by ciel on Jan 14, 2019 10:41:17 GMT
midnight I ve realised you havent really made any grammatical mistakes except for this post. Have you? ( ¬_¬) Who knows?.. Right... I dont try to look antagonistic but it isnt wrong. This is how I use my native language as well when I dont appericate/like others or their thoughts. Its not on purpose. It happens when I feel like the conversation is going nowhere. I just cant happen to write correctly. Its kind of a nuisance to do so in such "comminity". I dont want anyone to get the wrong idea... And just for the heads up english was actually designed to steal your energy. Words have viberations so you give your energy when you talk in a stereotypical manner. Songs use this; nirvana, mj, rock bands etc they all use black magic on you. The language used in rituals are pretty close to english so it was actually designed for this. Ps: If anyone finds this unrealistic I can explain. |
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Post by ciel on Jan 14, 2019 11:13:58 GMT
And by what I meant as the "best usage of mind" is as you know, as we all know, mercury is the mind. Now on with it we also know that virgo is EXALTED at mercury. Its a fact I didnt put this theory. Exalted: en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/exalted Its like a better usage. Nobody is arguing over if the palacement matters because that matters regardles of sign. Its a simple fact like mercury is ruled by gemini it works better there anyone could say that. When someone makes such statement would you still say the same thing. Its the basics ofc it doesnt always work that way. So I simply said the best usage maybe not the best choice of words. If pallas is virgo that makes sense. Virgo=exalted pallas=virgo |
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Post by ciel on Jan 14, 2019 11:25:05 GMT
geminiblues It could be ceres. But you know the decans right? first 10 are physical 2nd are mental and 3rd are spiritual at any sign. In my theory just like lilith virgo is seperated as well so that makes ceres physical pallas mental and vesta spiritual with all that fire and devotion
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 18:11:34 GMT
I agree with Ava . ciel , you are able to write good English. Some of your sentences and ideas are well formed. But not always, and then it becomes difficult to understand what you are getting at. Please don't write your posts in a rush and check your writing before you post it. Go slow and use examples to illustrate what you mean. Also use paragraphs to show where a new idea begins. English is not my first language either and I always have to edit my writing. |
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Post by geminiblues on Jan 14, 2019 20:48:13 GMT
Ciel, my understanding of decan rulers is that the 1st decan is the sign ruler, followed by the ruling planets of the other two signs of the same element. So, currently, Virgo would be as follows:
1st decan Mercury
2nd decan Saturn (ruler of Capricorn)
3rd decan Venus (ruler of Taurus)
This also means that Mercury rules the second decan of Taurus, and the third decan of Capricorn.
I think replacing Mercury with Ceres would work better with all three earth signs.
Now, I could see some loose correspondence between Saturn and Pallas, and between Vesta and Venus (if you close one eye and squint sideways... Lol). But changing the decan rulers away from the traditional breaks the pattern from the other signs.
As for Ruling/Exalted... Mercury is Home in Gemini, but Exalted in Virgo. However, it currently rules both. Changing the ruler of Virgo doesn't necessarily mean that Mercury would not still be Exalted in Virgo. It would also still have it's Fall in Pisces.
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Post by ciel on Jan 15, 2019 15:42:21 GMT
geminiblues What I am saying is the same. As you know pisces is exalted in jupiter and jupiter is not its ruling planet neptune is. And also decans still belong to their signs and signs work with their ruler. I dont know how you came to this conclusion but I dont think you get it. If virgo is exalted it cant be ruled in here because its not how the things work ppl who put virgo to mercury prbbly think the same as you did. And we know that pallas somewhat resembles logic so I thought virgo could be ruled in here as well. Beacuse of virgo is exalted not the other way around. I mean what is so hard to get smh. I didnt say that about decans as well. signs in ceres pallas vesta all have 3 decans the ruler doesnt change compeletely when its a different one. You can check lilith. Still this is a theory and I actually know about the original one I added this on to that so there is no need to keep saying the obvious truth.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 17:39:34 GMT
ciel , we expect members to communicate respectfully with each other, but you have been rude to geminiblues and others in this thread. You will need to change the way you communicate with members here. Please read the forum rules: astrogarden.proboards.com/thread/58/official-forum-policiesIt states clearly that by joining this forum: "3. You agree to maintain a respectful attitude towards all members and staff. Any violation will be at least issued with a formal warning, if not with an immediate ban."
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Post by geminiblues on Jan 15, 2019 17:56:06 GMT
Ciel,
Just let me say that it was not my intent to give offense. If I have done so, I apologise.
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Post by Ava on Jan 16, 2019 0:27:37 GMT
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