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Post by ciel on Dec 28, 2018 12:48:03 GMT
Dna 23.17' babylon 23.29' cap also dna is conjunct to asc in 21 capricorn. I also have giza mesopotamia 20 sag conjunct to sun 19 sag and sumer is at mc exact. I also have karma conjunct babel asteroid by 1 degree and chaldaea conjunct asc less than 1 orb. Idk what that means does it say anything about past life?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 13:45:40 GMT
ciel , there are very clear indications of past lives in Sumeria/Mesopotamia with asteroids from that era prominent in your chart. However, since we've probably experienced many incarnations if not hundreds, the fact that one particular era is being highlighted in your chart is pointing to something specific which is relevant to this life time, possibly karma incurred then. Karma incurred may have been skills or interests acquired. Also, these asteroids are indicating that you are an old soul. Giza, however, is an Egyptian asteroid. Do you have others placed prominently too? Asteroid lists are available in the sticky in this forum.
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Post by ciel on Dec 28, 2018 15:49:50 GMT
well I have ptah exact conjunct to mc. Also tutenchamun exact conjunct to venus as well as rudra conjunct to sun less than a 1 degree. But I was wondering the dna the most with babylon and asc conjunction. I dont think I am an old soul some say that its my first time on earth? but I dont really know
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 19:15:56 GMT
First time on earth sounds unlikely, unless you were evolving in other galaxies till now, which, according to some, makes you a starseed. Sumerian and Egyptian asteroids are usually prominent for starseeds as well as they relate to the origins of different earth species.
Your Asc at 21 cap is placed at the constellation of Lyra - "There is a celestial object known as the Starseed Ring Nebula (aka M57 or Messier 57) in the constellation Lyra which has special significance for all Starseeds and Cosmic Wanderers. It is located at 20 degrees Capricorn between the Lyran fixed stars Sheliak and Sulaphat.
The reason why this beautiful nebula is so special is because it is the physical remnants of a super nova explosion of the Lyran homeland which, in galactic myth, was the original location of all humanoid races before it was destroyed by the Draco's, thus triggering the diaspora to new planets such as those civilizations located in the Pleiades, Andromeda, Casseopia, Sirius amongst many others.
Thus, strong contacts with the Ring Nebula literally points to the birthplace of humanoid star origins. This is the place from which many streams of consciousness, rays of extraterrestrial starseed races, began their evolutionary journey."
The above is a quote from the Starseeds reference thread in Hidden Treasures located in the Library forum.
Take a look at some of the reference threads in Hidden Treasures - these include one on DNA.
DNA conjunct Babylon and Asc indicates that there are many useful genetic codes inherited from previous ancient lives available for you in this lifetime.
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Post by Ava on Dec 29, 2018 1:00:28 GMT
Dna 23.17' babylon 23.29' cap also dna is conjunct to asc in 21 capricorn. I also have giza mesopotamia 20 sag conjunct to sun 19 sag and sumer is at mc exact. I also have karma conjunct babel asteroid by 1 degree and chaldaea conjunct asc less than 1 orb. Idk what that means does it say anything about past life? Do you feel like you've had past lives? --- If anyone wants to check this same list: 55555 DNA 15417 Babylon 5249 Giza 56000 Mesopotamia 1970 Sumeria 3811 Karma 5808 Babel' 313 Chaldaea 55555, 15417, 5249, 56000, 1970, 3811, 5808, 313
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Post by ciel on Dec 29, 2018 10:31:14 GMT
I think Im a rainbow but Im not sure about my origin so thats what I would like to know. If it had to be this starsystem maybe atlantis? because I have atlantis (1198) conjunct soma (2815) idk if that indicates sth. Some call us asc masters (?) a bit silly because naming is unccessary but I have always been awake and possibly had a karma but not here for sure. Still haunts me. I comminucate telepathically sometimes. I might be directly originated from galactic center too. Also sabian symbol for atlantis is "A MAN REVEALING TO HIS STUDENTS THE FOUNDATION OF AN INNER KNOWLEDGE UPON WHICH A “NEW WORLD” COULD BE BUILT" at 5 libra maybe its just knowing atlantis and not having a past life. I just checked I have sedona (157064) conjunct atlantis too which known for starseeds.
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Post by Ava on Dec 29, 2018 13:18:23 GMT
Starting to think Sagittarius is a psychic sign. (Maybe it's just that Jupiter is so huge, and a gas giant...it permeates everything around it?) Thanks for adding asteroid numbers, ciel. I like your Sabian for Atlantis. 1198, 2815, 157064 I've gravitated to Sedona and once got caught on a narrow ledge there, halfway around one of those giant red rocks, and easily could've fallen to my death except I managed to summon the presence of mind to coordinate my reflexes and senses, and edge my way to safety...possibly aided by the energy of Sedona itself: visitsedona.com/spiritual-wellness/what-is-a-vortex/I have Sedona conjunct Mercury (2°09 orb), Angel, Buda, Eros and some others. Love that place. Would move there in an instant if I had the chance...I think I left my heart there after I visited the first time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 13:19:47 GMT
ciel. you seem fairly knowledgeable on the topic. Where have you been following this or found information on asteroids and starseeds? When you say you 'communicate telepathically', who do you communicate with?
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Post by lumina on Dec 29, 2018 13:50:34 GMT
@astrokeen I remember IQ talking a lot about this and doing readings on LL and I think a site called Ashtar command? BTW hello ciel Wondering if Babylon and DNA are paired asteroids, do they move close together like for example Spirit and Santorini do? CAuse while not an exact conjunction I have them closish, too (of course I probably had a Sumerian as well as an Egyptian past life and definitely a main one either in Ireland or England - actually there might have been more than one in England. Anyway the Sumerian and the Egyptian, in terms of experiences or incured karma probably are interconnected in my case, as the asteroids are overlapping so much. Well if we believe in past lives that is. Though the first dream I`ve had was of Atlantis, before I knew the existence of ATlantis, my Mom was just mentioning it sounded as if I had dreamed of Atlantis. lol)
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Post by lumina on Dec 29, 2018 13:54:58 GMT
Ava though no idea about it really, I´ve always gravitated to the word Sedona myself. And Atlantis. Well my ASC is pretty loaded with strange asteroids. lol Mars 5 Sag Ireland 5 Sag Sedona 6 Sag Polyhymnia 6 Sag ASC 7 Sag Angel 7 Sag Poseidon 7 Sag Lust 7 Sag Wisdom 7 Sag Atlantis 8 Sag Neptune 9 Sag NN 10 Sag Groom 11 Sag
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Post by Ava on Dec 29, 2018 18:28:53 GMT
lumina, love your asteroids there. Please do come visit me near Sedona. Just give me time. My 6 Sag Venus conjunct Ishtar, Babylon, and Athene...opposing Gemini Honoria-POF-Roma-Psyche-Panoramix. Random comment there because I'll forget these things and they show up as surprises when I re-read threads. Sorry to be off topic, though.
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Post by lumina on Dec 29, 2018 19:31:10 GMT
Ava maybe you were a priestess back in Babylon. (btw what is Panoramix. lol)
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Post by ciel on Dec 30, 2018 16:03:46 GMT
Astrokeen I ve been researching these stuff for a while. I know the basics and stuff. And by communicating telepatically I meant it happens all the time and with everyone I am around. People with low will tend to get them subconsciously and they cant identify but still act towards it. So it s more like manipulating them without any intention to do so. I pick up all the vibes constantly and if it interests me I read their minds without any force. Its due to the knowing the whole and matrix.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 19:26:36 GMT
Astrokeen I ve been researching these stuff for a while. I know the basics and stuff. And by communicating telepatically I meant it happens all the time and with everyone I am around. People with low will tend to get them subconsciously and they cant identify but still act towards it. So it s more like manipulating them without any intention to do so. I pick up all the vibes constantly and if it interests me I read their minds without any force. Its due to the knowing the whole and matrix. This is fascinating, Ciel. Would like to hear more about it, such as, when did you first know and how did it manifest. Have you experienced non-duality - the knowing that all is one and there is no distinction between god, the universal soul, others and you? That all else is an attempt to create meaning out of what is, essentially, emptiness. Now, have you checked where the healing asteroids are in your chart? Rainbows are thought to be healers too. If you are happy to, you could post your chart with birth details so we could look up how the different asteroids or fixed stars feature in it. Alternatively post your charts with different asteroids. I'd like to see where the angel asteroids are placed, for example. See here: astrogarden.proboards.com/thread/299/leaders-social-justice-angel-asteroids P.S. - a note about how this forum works - add @ before names in order to notify people, for example - @emma.
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Post by ciel on Dec 30, 2018 20:47:13 GMT
@astrokeen There isnt a exact start to these things, it has always been there its about balance between giving and taking same goes for everyone thats the reason why you should have awareness and also thats the reason why some people are sad/depressed at unreasonable things such as break up etc. These people dont know what being a normal person feels like. What they dont have becomes their intention, where they use their power for. Which is a sad table. I dont really know what you have reffered to because these things are man made and matrix, well it isnt. Catagorizing such things dont really help anyone just causes misunderstandings because the ones who knows that matter, knows that there is nothing to talk about. The knowlegde to these things first comes from knowing yourself. And after that you just have it. In order to do that you must know everything not just focusing on a single subject cuz it only will give you limited perception so in reality it wont work like you wish it would. But thats also probably what you have said anyway. There really is a link to all people around and thats also the reason why some people are like the way I mentioned. Everyone knows their place even tho they dont like it. They are only evil cuz they know they cant be more. Idk if its too all over the place but I tried to tell it in the simplest way I could. It started when I was about 16, 2 years ago. I was really getting bored then I just started to predict movements then all of that followed. As an healing asteroid I have chiron conjunct sun by 1 degree in 20 sag also oppossess my moon in 18 gem. idk if its about that but I thought having pluto conjunct sun and mercury in the 11th house might show that. And for the other asteroids psyche conjunct moon. Wisdom in Ic. Horus at nn. Michael conj vesta and uranus also sextile to sun trine mars and moon. Gabriel in antivertex. Raphael conjunct to cupid and in a wider orb conj to aura. And lucifer is in my vertex.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 23:12:53 GMT
I dont really know what you have reffered to because these things are man made and matrix, well it isnt. Catagorizing such things dont really help anyone just causes misunderstandings because the ones who knows that matter, knows that there is nothing to talk about. The knowlegde to these things first comes from knowing yourself. And after that you just have it. In order to do that you must know everything not just focusing on a single subject cuz it only will give you limited perception so in reality it wont work like you wish it would. But thats also probably what you have said anyway. There really is a link to all people around and thats also the reason why some people are like the way I mentioned. Ciel, our experiences have been very different and we use different frames of reference and different words. So, misunderstandings can occur especially if we try and cover deep and complicated things in a few sentences - just as I was trying to do. But I do think categorising things helps communication as long as we agree on the words and what they mean. But first, we need to cover some basic ideas. So, if you don't mind, I'll ask you to explain things you mentioned that are not clear to me. As a general principle, it would help to go slow and give examples of what we mean. I understand, however, what you mean by the matrix is not man-made. Logos on the NN is a lovely aspect. It means that it is your life purpose to be spiritual or work towards discovering your divinity.
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Post by ciel on Dec 31, 2018 11:23:19 GMT
@astrokeen I meant what I said. I really have no idea And not logos horus. We said the same thing anyway, I just spoke about it in a more general way. I mean sure thats a thing, but its a necessity so its not a big deal like guru's say. And certainly not a thing on its own. I just gave a wider perception to this hope that was understandable. And also asteroid spirit conjunct my Ic too. I guess that represent the ancestors or sth
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 12:25:20 GMT
Sure, ciel , I get that you weren't familiar with the terms I was using, or hadn't experienced non-duality. Which is why I am suggesting we need to be more specific and say - I don't know what you mean by ...... or I don't understand this bit. So, if you just say 'I have no idea', I don't understand which bit you were referring to. In your last post, I didn't understand what you meant by - "I mean sure thats a thing, but its a necessity so its not a big deal like guru's say. And certainly not a thing on its own." You have really lovely placements. Again, like logos at NN, Spirit at the IC makes you a spiritual person.
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Post by Ava on Dec 31, 2018 19:05:41 GMT
Ava maybe you were a priestess back in Babylon. (btw what is Panoramix. lol) I don't know much about priestesses and basically never think of them. Under-educated. I do believe spiritual power is real, and hope that I cultivated a good deal of that in times past. Panoramix...so close to panorama...so I assume it means, seeing the entirety, either from a higher vantage point, or by spinning around. "Roma" is complicated and depressing to me, as the word "gypsy" carries so much romance and appeal to so many people, yet now it's considered pejorative, for reasons I don't even understand. I wish that I could say, "Maybe I was a gypsy in a past life!" without anyone objecting or correcting me (please no one do that), because to me that would great. And of course I see the panorama because I'm traveling. And I was good at my job (POF-Psyche in Gemini, making money from being a psychic?) Yeah but who knows.
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Post by ciel on Dec 31, 2018 19:13:27 GMT
@astrokeen Logos and horus are the same? I have logos in somewhere else
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