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Post by lumina on Dec 12, 2018 6:49:50 GMT
I am just in the midst of it, Tr saturn squaring Pluto exact. sounds very ominous of course, not a fun thing to see (esp. coincidint with Tr Pluto square Chiron).
did anyone experience that transit? How bad was it?
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Post by lumina on Dec 12, 2018 9:43:00 GMT
As an addendum: It seems that this is a one-time-transit, so only one exact pass over the exact square to my Pluto (which is actually a nice change, I think Tr Pluto opposite Saturn, I had like 5 passes or so. lol). However it is in partile orb from 3rd - 21st december, so it is part of my Solar Return. Crap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 9:57:08 GMT
lumina I remember Saturn was squaring pluto when I graduated and so would be entering into the first career steps(later that year also start my post graduate studies). Pluto is in my 1st conj my asc - Saturn was still tr in my 9th house. I have the conjunction natally in my first house(about 5 deg orb though), I moved countries for love and a new job when saturn was conjuncting pluto a number of mths before my saturn return(it had then just gone retro). It was that move I feel completely changed me and how i am perceived too. I look nothing like i did 10 year ago, my attitude to work has changed(i always worked hard but im less of a doormat lol). The day M leaves, saturn will be squaring his Pluto too. For me, the change mainly happened in the house saturn was in, i guess it look scary(when i graduated i was scared of whats ahead i loved uni and didnt really want to leave, when i moved i was scared did i make the right choice) but in the end was beneficial. I guess saturn -pluto hard aspects can push you to make the change you are afraid to do but will greatly benefit you in the long term pls dnt quote
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Post by Ava on Dec 12, 2018 12:25:15 GMT
did anyone experience that transit? How bad was it? I was going through some hard times but nothing worse than usual, all things considered. This was around the time I almost felt like I hit "rock bottom" (not rock bottom compared to later times), and Elvis came to me in a dream to talk my problems out with me. Tr Saturn squaring my Pluto again now. Maybe this time I will finally make it to Graceland.
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Post by Violets on Dec 12, 2018 19:19:17 GMT
lumina I'm in the midst of it as well (NOT fun, but...okay, we're still intact here). We must have experienced the same transit around 28 years ago, right...? Adolescence would make such a transit much more difficult, I would think, but Saturn and Pluto are telling us to take stock of what's working in our lives and what's not (to paraphrase Robert Hand, my go-to transit guy). Financial restrictions are true for me at this time, as our renters moved out last month, so we had to pay our mortgage without the benefit of the additional income we receive from renting out our house (thankfully, some new renters moved in). Our cramped living situation is making it extremely difficult for me to homeschool one child while the other child is going through his little toddler stages, developing new abilities to climb onto things he shouldn't be climbing on, and various shenanigans. So yeah, we're looking forward to hopefully moving back into our house when these renters leave. Part of letting go of what's not working for us, I guess...? 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by lumina on Dec 12, 2018 19:41:25 GMT
Thank you all for your input. Well during the last square (but with Tr Saturn in Cancer), I was moving out from home and being in my teacher-in-training 2 years and heading towards the final exam while having to organize my daily life, having a household, my taxes (of course, too), my learn-process and at the same time being a teacher practically. That fits what vg wrote. As for 28 years ago. I do not quite remember. Well a few months before my grandfather died, but not when the transit was exact. Back then I had several passes though. Well just after the last pass, the Berlin wall "fell" and East and WEst Germany were being reunited. Which does not have anything to do with me or my transit, but it was kind of a big deal back then, also because we were never allowed to visit Eastern GErmany (because my Dad worked in the postal and telecommunication field, which made him someone called "carrier of state-secrets", as were many people of course, but it meant the whole family wasn`T allowerd over there, not that I ever wanted to go there. lol Anyway but we had relatives in Eastern Germany, so that made the rare meetings easier, basically). But I really do not remember all that much. i know that the year before I had been "falling in love". lol Well I was just 14 years old. it was the first serious crush I suppose and it came with a lot of, I don`t know, for some way female rivalry, let`s put it like that. lol A friendship with someone, who was ultimately not good for me, or well maybe the friendship was good, it was very influential at least, but we didn`t have the same path in life. which sounds weird to say about a friend, but well for some time we were pretty much referred to as "the Siamese twins", and with reason I suppose. lol Though most of this took place a year later, but it was definitely a turning point in my life. That year Tr SAturn was squaring Pluto I suppose I was processing my unlucky crush most of the year, curiously I also remember now that I think about it, quite some parties and concerts. lol which is so weird, I have always been so reserved and not going out much, or pretty much not at all. But then I was. And I remember that in contradiction to all astro-interpretations, when Tr Saturn came around to conjunct my ASC, Neptune and NN in 2015 or 2016, instead of retreating, I suddenly would be socializing a lot, meeting people, my social circle shifted (well I was starting to have a social circle. lol) and so on. Which is just werid. Anyway 28 years ago, also whtne Tr Saturn squared my Pluto, I started doing astrology. It actually started with a dream I have had in january that year (when the transit was exact as I just see) and one bit of the dream was about the planet Neptune exploding (which meant I was and would stay stranded on earth and had to just learn to deal with not being able to go "back".) it was an ultra weird dream, and despite having been 28 years ago, I remember that. It started not only my astrology-obsession but also had me getting into dreaminterpretation a lot and starting to write fragments/ stories/ poems and so on. Though this really took off the years after.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Dec 13, 2018 16:12:39 GMT
Well just after the last pass, the Berlin wall "fell" and East and WEst Germany were being reunited. Which does not have anything to do with me or my transit, Maybe it does(?) I was about to say something about the destruction of established structures (which might be a good thing, if the structures were restrictions).
Another theme might be, perhaps, the re-thinking of fear-based paradigms, or ones that we've been socialized to believe. Saturn and Pluto are both about fears, in different ways. With them acting in a square it can be tussle between holding on and letting go.
As for me, this transit happened when I was two. Tr Saturn was also conjunct my Moon at the time. It meant something different for a two-year-old, so I suppose that's not much help.
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Post by anela on Dec 14, 2018 5:06:01 GMT
28 years ago, I dropped out of school, and my parents had got back together. We moved back over here, lived with my aunt and three cousins for something like seven months. Our dog had to be put to sleep at the time, because he had cancer all over his body.
This year, you mostly know about. One of our dogs died, most of the year has been miserable, money is tighter than ever. Our one dog has mostly accepted the new dog, but is food-aggressive, and he jumped on him, snarling, earlier on, when the new dog innocently went to pick up a biscuit he'd left on the floor (first dog takes them outside to eat).
I'm not feeling well. I've had a rash on my arm, that I thought was finally going away. Part of it has, but it also seems to be spreading, so who knows? I had a good week stomach-wise - really good - until late last night, and today. Woke up dizzy, and have been here and there, since. I've been throwing up tonight. Not in the mood for Christmas, but it's markedly better than the past two Christmases (so far - don't want to push my luck).
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Post by lumina on Dec 14, 2018 16:11:32 GMT
anela sorry to hear about those troubles. Also sorry, cause it seems that since I have known you you are always going through such hard time. 12YearsABlob that makes a lot of sense to me, with the fears and the letting go part.
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