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Post by Ava on Nov 8, 2018 15:36:17 GMT
Jupiter just entered Sag, and to celebrate, here's a lesson I've learned and remembered (tr Jupiter trine my Saturn).
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If you care to, you might find it interesting to check when the transiting MC was conjunct each planet and node on the day you were born.
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If you live in the same place, then you may find that even still, when the transiting MC is conjunct one of your planets, another planet is on the ASC, so that those planets are connected, even if there no classic aspect between them.
Times for when planets were on MC, day/place I was born...in order:
1:11:52 Saturn conjunct MC (ASC 26 Libra, moon @ 9° Pisces) 5:42:38 Pluto conjunct MC (quincunx moon 11°, few minutes orb. 1H sun) 7:16:20 Uranus conjunct MC (12.32 Cap ASC, 12°32 moon, square Nep..20 Leo Vertex) 8:09:40 NN conjunct MC (27 Cancer DSC conjunct Saturn) 9:16:00 Venus conjunct MC (18.39 Aqua ASC, square nodes) 9:44:05 Neptune conjunct MC (29 Aqua ASC) 12:05:55 sun conjunct MC (ASC 27 Aries conjunct 12H Chiron) 13:26:55 Mercury conjunct MC (26 Taurus ASC) 16:10:05 moon conjunct MC (ASC 8 Cancer) 17:56:40 Jupiter conjunct MC - (ASC 0 Leo, exactly conjunct Saturn) 21:56:05 Mars conjunct MC - (ASC 17 Virgo
I do live near my birthplace.
So, for example, today, when the transiting MC is conjunct my natal Venus, the transiting ASC will be squaring my nodes, just like the day I was born (as I put in bold up there). Actually that double conjunction tightens a bit, so that tr MC conjunct my Venus means the tr ASC is even closer to perfectly squaring my nodes.
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Post by lumina on Nov 8, 2018 16:19:03 GMT
Interesting thread. Well First Thing popping Up.
15 minutes after my birth Pluto was at MC Precise. Same time Neptune and ASC we're exact conjunct ASC. 4 and 17 Minute orb.
Vertex in 24 cancer. Saturn conjunct 8th House cusp vy 38 minutes
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Post by lumina on Nov 8, 2018 16:38:59 GMT
Next Stop Uranus in MC
ASC 26.52 sag Sun 26.00 sag
But even closer ist p's Sun in 26.57 sag
NN conjunct 12th House cusp 28 minutes
Pof 18 Aqua conjunct moon 52 minutes
Vertex 11 Leo conjunct 8th House cusp 12 minutes
Using placidus btw
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Post by lumina on Nov 8, 2018 16:46:46 GMT
Btw the MC and ASC sometimes so Not move With the Same speed, so the Phase Angles are Not Always the Same.
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Post by Ava on Nov 8, 2018 17:04:32 GMT
Btw the MC and ASC sometimes so Not move With the Same speed, so the Phase Angles are Not Always the Same. This is the problem....I suspected this....but I don't have enough training or experience to understand it. Is it seasonal? The angles are closer at some times than others?
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Post by lumina on Nov 8, 2018 17:11:53 GMT
Yes, while the MC moves with the same speed I think (every 4 minutes one degree), some signs are fast rising signs, for exampley PIsces ASC (at least on the NOrthern hemisphere) is really quick, I think this one does not even take one hour to move through the whole sign, whereas for example Leo and Virgo are taking their time so to speak. I suspect it has something to do with the rotation and tilt of the earth but not totally sure.
However while we cannot simply do the math in the natal (but have to try it out really), of course the transiting phasal angles will mirror the natal ones (actually that should be also visible in an event composite, but I need to think about it more thoroughly), because Pisces is ALWAYS a fast rising sign and Leo is always pretty average-slow. there might be gradual differences but not by much, so if the transiting MC is on your Venus, than the transiting ASC will always be on your Nodes. Great thing to find btw. I like that. just seems to say that you are in for fated romance. hmm it is also so fitting to find Venus on the NOdes in your composite with H, it totally hooks into that.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 8, 2018 17:14:25 GMT
Yes, while the MC moves with the same speed I think (every 4 minutes one degree), some signs are fast rising signs, for exampley PIsces ASC (at least on the NOrthern hemisphere) is really quick, I think this one does not even take one hour to move through the whole sign, whereas for example Leo and Virgo are taking their time so to speak. I suspect it has something to do with the rotation and tilt of the earth but not totally sure. Yeah, I believe that's why this method works if you live close to where you were born.. The speed/phase will more or less stay the same.
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Post by lumina on Nov 8, 2018 17:18:41 GMT
BTW I just LOVE that when Uranus is on my MC, my Sun and even more so P`s Sun is on my ASC, and Moon is conjunct Part of Fortune. emotional happiness as a result of having my individuality and personal quirks showcased and feeling totally myself in doing so. Of course Vertex on 8th house cusp, and on 11 Leo, well, well, it is not all just happy go lucky I suppose, but all very radiant, but the 12th and 8th house cusps having pulled up, is certainly interesting to think about.
BTW P`s MErcury is conjunct my NN exactly (hence also falls onto that 12th house cusp, when his sun is on my ASC- I guess he simply gets it. lol) and well our composite KARMA is on 9 Leo, almost conjunct, well by 2 degrees,curious.
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Post by lumina on Nov 8, 2018 17:20:19 GMT
Yes, while the MC moves with the same speed I think (every 4 minutes one degree), some signs are fast rising signs, for exampley PIsces ASC (at least on the NOrthern hemisphere) is really quick, I think this one does not even take one hour to move through the whole sign, whereas for example Leo and Virgo are taking their time so to speak. I suspect it has something to do with the rotation and tilt of the earth but not totally sure. Yeah, I believe that's why this method works if you live close to where you were born.. The speed/phase will more or less stay the same. Exactly. Well it works also when you are living somewhere else, just the mirroring effect between transit and natal phasal angles will fall flat. HOwever I do think there is a relatively old technique using exactly this, something like locality angles, to see where when what is being pulled to the MC, and what else is triggered by timesensitive points, like ASC for example.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 8, 2018 17:24:29 GMT
Oh, right, we could tweak it to correspond with where we're living right now.
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Post by lumina on Nov 8, 2018 17:35:08 GMT
MC on Neptune and NN:
ASC 14 Aqua, Moon 19 Aqua
Vertex 12 Virgo opposite Jupiter 11 PIsces
Saturn on 6th house cusp on 16 Cancer
POF on 7 Aries.
Mercury on MC ------------------
ASC on 18 Pisces, conjunct JUNO on 17 Pisces
POF 11 Taurus
Vertex 25 Virgo (conjunct my Draco DESC and P`s tropical DESC exact)
Sun on MC ------------
ASC 20 Pisces
Vertex 26 Virgo (conjunct P`s Saturn exact and still on his DESC)
POF 13 Taurus
Venus on MC ---------------
ASC 16 Aries
POF 10 GEmini on my SN exact
Vertex 5 LIbra on my natal MC exact
Moon 20 Aqua in 11th exact sextile Chiron in 1st
Moon on MC on 21°42 Aqua --------------------------
Vertex 13°22 Scorpio
DESC 26°59 Sag Sun 26°20 Sag Mercury 25°40 Sag
POF 1°37 Taurus 11th house, opposite URanus 1°23 sCorpio
Seriously, after seeing that DESC when Moon is most elevated, I think I need soe fresh air now. lol
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Post by lumina on Nov 8, 2018 18:43:52 GMT
oh and then
Juno on the MC on 17 Pisces coincides with Saturn on the ASC on 16-17 Cancer (and Moon on 9th house cusp)
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Post by lumina on Nov 8, 2018 19:37:00 GMT
For P some highlights ------------------------
Moon on MC on 28 Sag ---------------------
DESC conjunct Saturn on 26 Virgo (0°09) Avx conjunct POF on 28 Pisces
Venus on MC on 26 Cap ----------------------- ASC on 26 Taurus
POF on 29 Taurus
JUno not quite on IC (1°36)
Saturn on 6th house cusp (0°01)
Pluto conjunct Vertex (1°14)
Moon on 29 Sag
Juno on MC on 27°34 Cancer ---------------------------
ASC 20°56 Libra (10 minutes off our composite NN) Pluto 21°24 Libra
Neptune on 3rd house cusp (0°38)
Moon on 6°47 Capricorn (partile conjunct my natal Venus - seriously now?)
IC 27°34 CAp conjunct Venus 26°39 Cap
Vertex 15°57 TAurus conjunct 8th house cusp (1°14)
NN 1°17 Virgo conjunct 11th house cusp (0°55)
so the Juno-on-MC-complex seems to be one of the bigger fishes in this look up.
NN on MC on 1°16 Virgo -------------------------
ASC 14°32 Scorpio
VX 24 Gemini
Jupiter (Ruler of 10th house natally) on MC on 10 Virgo ---------------------------
ASC on 20°28 Scorpio (DESC conjunct his wife`s NN by 1°34)
Neptune on 2nd house cusp (0°34)
Moon on 8 Cap in 2nd house (squaring his wife`s Sun in Aries and my Pluto in Libra, also conjunct my natal Isis-Osiris-conjunction, sharing a degree with Isis)
Vesta on 6th house cusp (0°11)
Vertex 1°53 Cancer in 8th - no aspects (falling onto my Draco Jupiter though)
POF on 9 Scorpio in 12th opposing Chiron in 6th (0°09)
Saturn on MC on 26°44 Virgo ----------------------------
ASC on 1°25 Sag
Vertex on 15°11 Cancer
POF on 20°09 Scorpio
curiously unimportant, considering Saturn is exact on his DESC in his natal
Pluto on MC on 21°24 Libra -----------------------------
ASC 18°51 Sag, almost conjunct NEptune on 20 SAg (and in fact exact conjunct his eldest son´s ASC)
Moon 9°53 Cap in 1st partile applying trine to Jupiter in 8th (0°18)
Vertex on 3°47 Leo
POF on 6°45 SAg in 12th house (conj. my ASC)
Uranus on MC on 23°27 SCorpio ------------------------------
ASC on 19°18 Cap
Venus having come to partile oppose Juno from 27 Cap to 27 Cancer
Vertex on 28°48 leo partile conjunct BML and trine Sun
Moon on 11 Cap trine Mars in 7th (15 minutes)
POF on 2°32 Aqua
Mercury on MC on 10°44 Sag ----------------------------
ASC on 15°26 Aqua
POF on 29 Aqua
Sun conjunct 11th house cups (28 minutes)
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Post by Ava on Jan 2, 2019 2:09:08 GMT
Saturn on MC on 26°44 Virgo ---------------------------- ASC on 1°25 Sag Vertex on 15°11 Cancer POF on 20°09 Scorpio curiously unimportant, considering Saturn is exact on his DESC in his natal Coming back to this only 2 months later... ASC square his nodes, so....difficulties in career (Saturn-MC) would place more stress on the ASC, to demonstrate balance (between nodes) and professionalism (Virgo NN)? Hmm I came by to say, if you live with someone, these phase angles might show the nature of interactions....thought of this when I just pulled up an event chart and saw the ASC on my husband's Mars-Pluto and IC on my Scorpio NN. Phase angle synastry, is that a thing?
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Post by Ava on Jan 2, 2019 14:19:11 GMT
The next synastry aspect hit by transiting angles was:
Tr ASC = husband's Venus Tr IC = my Venus
With a bit of orb. Still, a noticeable effect. How funny.
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Post by Ava on Jan 23, 2019 20:38:28 GMT
Just had a negative incident that matched tr DSC = Saturn = my natal sun, with tr MC = tr Chiron.
Rather than continuing to bump, I might just indulge my OCD side by editing in more examples as the occur.
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Post by lumina on Jan 24, 2019 6:59:01 GMT
Sorry to hear that. HOpe you are okay.
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Post by lumina on Jan 24, 2019 7:14:03 GMT
Well, last time he gave a "sign of life" (even with zero content. lol).
Tr ASC = tr Saturn/Pluto-mp (16 Cap) Tr IC - Tr Juno
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Tr DESC on my Saturn exact Tr MC (almost) on his Uranus (2 degrees applying, but closely conjunct our Odysseus-Penelope-conjunction. LOL).
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Post by lumina on Jan 24, 2019 7:18:54 GMT
just checking that time when the "Italian person of interest" was responding to me over messenger.
Tr DESC = Tr Sun (2-3 degrees) = my Sun (exact) = my Mercury = his Moon Tr MC = his Sun (exact>) = my Moon (3 degrees) = my Atropos (1 degree)
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Post by Ava on Jan 24, 2019 12:55:27 GMT
Sorry to hear that. HOpe you are okay. I'm alright, thanks! Those are interesting examples you listed, esp w/ Italian guy and the angles hitting your suns. Now I'm even more fascinated and curious.
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