Neptune square Venus synastry

[FruityLlama]

Has anyone experienced this? 

In this synastry I am looking at, both parties have easy aspects between Venus and Neptune and both are angular planets for one of them. 

The Venus-Neptune is not a DW. 

In terms of love or friendship or familial relations, what has been your experience? I have come across a theory that suggested hard aspects to Neptune in terms of synastry can create unrequited love or un-reciprocated feelings of some kind. 

I share quite a few Neptune squares and oppositions with my sister, for example (not Venus though). This is interesting because we are close but not at the same time. I love her a lot but I don't know about her. I guess she does deep down but who knows. We have been kind to each other but there is a bit of a distance too, it's so weird. I guess the opposition to her sun and moon causes this overall see-saw effect, but the squares I can't quite understand in general. This is because, I feel that romantic synastries have a totally different take on the hard aspects as they provide a sort of bond, something to work with and keep the relationship going provided both people are willing to. 

I also have an easy aspect between Venus and Neptune so maybe thats why I'm like "this can't possibly be that difficult or deceptive!" haha!!

[Ava]

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[FruityLlama]

Interesting Ava, thanks for that. This particular square happens with a Venus in Aries and Neptune in Cap, so there is a similar clash there between fire and earth that you point out. The struggle of bringing wild fantasies into reality!

Do you suppose that house placements come into this, because I suspect the Aries venus is in this person's 9th house, which I suppose would exacerbate a thirst for adventure. Neptune would try to support it by calculating, as you say, all the earthy matters such as finance. I mean, these people I am reading for aren't that spontaneous really- I'm not even sure aries really is that much, not as much as Leo and Sag but that's another conversation haha!

However, I think the idea of Neptune and Venus trying both to bring a dream into reality is apt, and the square implies that both parties come at it from different angles, but both have key skills and attributes to bring to the table. I suppose house placements would indicate where this "dream" would take place.

[Ava]

Sounds right to me, FruityLlama, though I don't always have birth times or the curiosity to explore in depth. If I were reading for someone else I would consider houses; it's easier to be objective with others' charts.

Virgo Venus in my 2nd house is watching out for our shared finances and my 5H Neptune can be selfish (for the greater good of course! If I shine, *we* shine. lol)

Aries Venus will probably want to live in the moment, and Cap Neptune dreams of long-term success and prosperity. As you said, it's the fire/earth clash. Cap Neptune is automatically gifted with manifestation, as it fuses Saturn and Neptune energies...therefore I think it can be wise enough to see how success is built from a series of well-played moments, and might stand back and let Aries Venus dazzle on its own. The problem is, different approaches and Cap's dour attitude could make Aries Venus feel they aren't getting the credit they deserve, or that Cap is only interested in their own secondary limelight. So I think it could come to a standstill. I mean this is cardinal energy and that's what bugs them most, when things aren't moving along.

With the mutable square, it can just dissolve into a vague sense of "Well maybe someday this will work? It kinda worked before, right?" and spin in circles.

I suppose the fixed square is most prone to trouble, as fixedness is so elementally at odds with Neptune. Both parties might want to just back off, or keep in a distant-but-pleasant holding pattern, where they never really converge in a satisfying way. For instance Leo and Aqua are generally too self-absorbed for Taurus-Scorpio merging purposes, but it can go the other way, where Taurus-Scorpio keeps such high standards they become aloof, unwilling to pair off with Leo (always relationship-minded, in my experience) or Aqua (loyal but freedom-loving in the extreme).

I'd rather sit here musing aloud than go make lunch.

[FruityLlama]

Haha I hope you had a nice lunch if you got round to it and thank you for such a detailed response!!

I keep forgetting about the modalities, but yes I can see the cardinal energies getting sick of just sitting there daydreaming about whatever. In terms of a relationship, I think it makes sense too where neptune in cap will want to maybe plan ahead as to how to seduce venus, whereas venus in aries will decide straight away whether or not something is going to happen!! But I sense both will maybe get started on something one way or another.

Have you ever seen this aspect in unrequited situations Ava ?

[Ava]

Oct 14, 2018 17:11:35 GMT FruityLlama said:

 
Have you ever seen this aspect in unrequited situations Ava ?

Not sure. I suppose there's potential for it...you know, getting caught up in dreams. Unable to shake the "magic."

I think people with Venus-Neptune natally or by transit might be super romantic but then get cold feet, second guess themselves, feel unsure of what they're doing, break hearts. If another person comes into picture that with their own Venus or Neptune, they're more likely to get burned and feel like they lost something amazing. And in that case they'll want it back.

It's common for people to have Neptune sextile Pluto, so the obsessive factor comes in. 

Side note:

Mercury-Venus people might be more prone to dwelling on thoughts about love, they really want beautiful experiences to turn over in their minds, and may not need a constant influx of new, live experiences if they are content with their memories. In that case, simply loving one person in an unrequited way might feel better to them than a requited love, where they need to think on their feet and devote themselves to the person in sometimes tedious or sacrificial ways.

[FruityLlama]

Ava

I thought I had replied to this but my internet connection is weird. I'll get back to this, but I just wanted you know I have read and appreciate your post, i just need to think about my response (again). Thank you for your intelligent insights, I do appreciate them