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Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 23, 2018 15:46:08 GMT
Or what do you look for in one? Any pointers? Do's, don'ts?
I've actually been thinking of other 'events' that are pre-planned. Ones that might benefit from us choosing the right moment.
But wedding charts are a nice place to start, since so much has been said/written about them.
Also, we could post wedding charts we know of and discuss (if that's okay)...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 15:56:36 GMT
So I have no wedding charts to post but I did purchase a PDF on this very topic a year ago! It's by Mystic Medusa
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 23, 2018 17:53:40 GMT
Thanks a lot, athena ! Makes sense that new moon wedding charts would be ultra-sweet and closely bonded. I like how they've laid out all the other configurations too. Where I come from, the May and Jan/Feb seasons seem to be really popular. May especially so. Probably for the same reason stated above - Taurus, ruled by Venus, an earth sign with staying power. 'Hierophant season', appealing to all traditional cultures.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 23, 2018 23:09:59 GMT
I kinda think, if the two people are meant to be together, then no date can get in their way. If not, no date can fix the problems. No, that's not naive - it's something important to keep in mind. Well, that's my belief underlying all astrology studies. What was that saying, "the stars impel, they don't compel"?
If it's all laid out in black and white, where's the soul in it? That doesn't add up for me. There is a deeper core of self underneath all the astrology. One tangible way we see this is when the exact same chart/s manifest in such different ways for different people.
The (cosmic) energy that drives us and events around us, is mysterious and we may never fully grasp it. However, we can (and do? ) make sense of some of the plantery energy that influences us - by studying astrology. At least, that's how I see it..
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 24, 2018 0:12:38 GMT
^ Oh yes, good question. What power do they hold, and how?
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Post by lumina on Sept 24, 2018 5:54:42 GMT
I don´t believe in wedding charts election. Life and astrology has a tendency to give you what is matching the (underlying) reality of the situation. you can follow all rules, and if you are not a great match, something will come up in that elected chart that you totally missed, and vice versa.
I do believe in the validity of event charts, like a wedding chart, however, they will show you the strengths and weaknesses of an union. Having said that, yes, you can make anything work.... the thing is just often the astrology shows quite clearly that you do not really want to, as there is too little meaning for you personally in it, and thus the wedding chart does have its predictive value.
however it is not always easy to really interprete it, as not every uranus-aspect will lead to a breakup inevitably. What if both people are Uranian in nature and need that kind of energy between them?
Even more important than the chart itself are the links back to the natals. I can have the most beautiful marriage (like posterimage perfect to look at from an outside perspective), and yet at the same time I couldn´t care less (no real links to my natal chart) or it would actually severely restrict me (for example a Saturn-Pluto-conjunction, talking about sticking it out together or being stuck, depending on your view - making a T-square with my Moon or Venus or Mars or DESC or DESc-ruler. The marriage would probably endure for quite a while, before it monumentally collapses, but would I be happy? feeling like I could freely express my love nature? Probably not.)
One of the first things I actaully look for are challengint Neptune aspects within the wedding chart and back to the natals or even the composite of a couple. So perfect, the perfect romance, you are my soulmate, my twinflame, my ..... wait, who are you? do I even know you?
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 24, 2018 19:59:05 GMT
I don´t believe in wedding charts election. Life and astrology has a tendency to give you what is matching the (underlying) reality of the situation. you can follow all rules, and if you are not a great match, something will come up in that elected chart that you totally missed, and vice versa. *nodding* I agree. I do believe in the validity of event charts, like a wedding chart, however, they will show you the strengths and weaknesses of an union. Having said that, yes, you can make anything work.... the thing is just often the astrology shows quite clearly that you do not really want to, as there is too little meaning for you personally in it, and thus the wedding chart does have its predictive value. Exactly - it all depends on context. however it is not always easy to really interprete it, as not every uranus-aspect will lead to a breakup inevitably. What if both people are Uranian in nature and need that kind of energy between them? Right, and that was part of my question while starting this thread. There isn't any one-size-fits-all chart or synastry in astrology, and I want to learn how to see who fits what. Even more important than the chart itself are the links back to the natals. I can have the most beautiful marriage (like posterimage perfect to look at from an outside perspective), and yet at the same time I couldn´t care less (no real links to my natal chart) or it would actually severely restrict me (for example a Saturn-Pluto-conjunction, talking about sticking it out together or being stuck, depending on your view - making a T-square with my Moon or Venus or Mars or DESC or DESc-ruler. The marriage would probably endure for quite a while, before it monumentally collapses, but would I be happy? feeling like I could freely express my love nature? Probably not.) Very good points! One of the first things I actaully look for are challengint Neptune aspects within the wedding chart and back to the natals or even the composite of a couple. So perfect, the perfect romance, you are my soulmate, my twinflame, my ..... wait, who are you? do I even know you? Oh yeah, will there be a "reality check" later on?
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Post by vds on Sept 26, 2018 1:31:10 GMT
Didn't some astrologers say it was "auspicious" for William to marry Kate bc her progressed Venus or Mars will retrograde over William's something-something?
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Post by lumina on Sept 26, 2018 3:59:26 GMT
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Dec 24, 2018 1:04:22 GMT
There's been a spate of December weddings and I got my hands on a couple of the exact dates and times. Can't keep track of all the invites, or there would've been more. The interesting thing about these charts is that they were picked by astrologers. Not just the date, but the exact time too. The thing that might make these harder to read is that they'll be drawn in the Vedic system. But I look forward to your inputs all the same. What do you see in these charts?
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Dec 24, 2018 1:06:36 GMT
Wedding #1: Yet to take place:
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Dec 24, 2018 1:09:18 GMT
Wedding #2: Also yet to happen:
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Dec 24, 2018 1:14:27 GMT
Wedding #1: Mars seems to be in accidental dignity (being in the 10th). Chart-ruler is conjunct the major benefic, which also happens to be the Dsc ruler. 7th house stellium looks heavy but important all the same. Sun is closely conjunct the Dsc, which tends to bode well for the couple. Venus has a lot of supportive aspects. 9th house ruler is in harmonious aspect to the Sun & Moon. The Moon has just moved into early degrees of a fixed sign and is part of a loose grand trine with the Sun & Uranus. Venus opposing Juno.
^ Sort of applying Western principles to this chart, which may or may not be right.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Dec 24, 2018 1:26:21 GMT
Wedding #2: I can tell you this one is bang on. Sun-Neptune in the 10th - it's one of those lavish, fairytale weddings. (knock on wood for luck). I love the Sun conjunct Vesta there. That late Aqua stellium is conjunct the groom's Sun, btw. I dunno if that's TMI? NN in both charts seems to be in the 2nd house. Moon-Juno-Asc trine Venus (and these guys don't even USE Juno, amazing ). Benefics in the 7th & 9th houses. Pluto-Saturn giving staying power and Mars aligning their efforts together as a couple - both in easy aspect to Sun-Neptune. Again, Moon in a fixed sign (this time domicile).
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Post by lumina on Dec 24, 2018 11:44:35 GMT
12YearsABlob hmm, sorry, I can`t do anything with the Vedic system (too little experience with it, and they have a whole set of different rules than Western astrology, so applying my Western approach would muddle all of that. ) Anyway, I am sure I would not have picked THAT wedding chart (yes I see the Venus-Mars-conjunction, however I see also a whole other can of worms, but some people like a challenge possibly?) The time is correct to half an hour or 45 minutes I think. (it is always hard to pinpoint which time to take anyway, I tend to think the actual speaking of the worlds, the pronouncing people husband and wife is the right time, but there are different theories).
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Post by lumina on Dec 24, 2018 12:04:14 GMT
On the other hand this is my parent`s wedding chart, which I would not have selected either. But they`ve been married for 44 years, and pretty happy and still loving each other and have hardly ever spent a day apart (which actually were the hardest times in their relationship, when my Dad had to spend some weeks somewhere else jobwise, even though he came home every weekend, but these were some tough 6 weeks)
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Dec 24, 2018 15:40:41 GMT
Thank you so much, lumina. I love getting real data. Your parents' wedding chart has fixed angles too. I wonder if any of those are on their Suns? Pretty intense configuration with the moon - no wonder they're deeply attached to each other and need each other's presence every day. That closeness is a blessing. Do they have any Venus-Uranus natally or does that aspect touch any of their natals? It's interesting that these wedding charts seem to have 10th house/9th house planets in common. Navamsa is derived from the natals, but this 9th house emphasis ties into what Jewel Mayberry was speaking of re: long-term compatibility.
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Post by geminiblues on Jan 7, 2019 20:32:53 GMT
I just took a look at my wedding chart. Gawd, what a train wreck! 6 planets retro, including Mercury. Chiron on the MC at the point of a 5 planet yod, Pluto conjunct Saturn sextile Jupiter conjunct Uranus, all 4 Rx, with Jupiter and Uranus conjunct my aVx completing a grand square for me, and her Apex Venus square moon and Chiron for the T. Oh, and Karma conjunct the NN is the cherry on top. Waning Virgo moon square my sun/Venus on the one side and square Neptune and PoF on the other... I suppose valentine conjunct my Venus and north node saves it from being *all* bad... Lilith conjunct her Mercury and trine mine? I can't even imagine what that's telling me...
Yeah, for the record, this marriage lasted about a year and a half, which is about as long as the separation lasted before the divorce became final.
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