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Post by Ava on Aug 7, 2018 14:52:12 GMT
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2018 7:32:46 GMT
Just quickly, because i am almost on my way
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2018 15:35:20 GMT
Thank You. I cannot write AS much AS i want, But Just today occured to me that the Eclipse IS in our pr Dr Venus though possibly pr tropical Saturn IS around too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 15:54:33 GMT
2. Breakup: Huge stellium in Aries including sun, moon, Mercury, Venus. Sun exactly on my natal Chiron. Mercury is Rx. Ava, this is interesting in that you had a love stellium which should have spelt harmony and closeness. But for a Mercury rx and Sun on natal Chiron. The latter highlights the importance of checking how the composite aligns with the natal chart. Also the significance of a Mercury rx. I currently have a love stellium in the first house (Pisces) of the pr draconic composite which is being undermined by some other aspects: Venus - 11.31 Mercury - 15.29 Sun - 18 Saturn - 20.40 trines Moon (20.20) in Cancer BUT Sun/Saturn square Pluto (20.30) on MC in Aries. Uranus is opp Chiron Not good is it? Cant see any noteworthy aspects with the natals, however.
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2018 16:22:04 GMT
AS westran sais sun-venus IS Not Always about falling in Love, Sometimes IT denotes coming to an Agreement in a Separation/divorce. I think that IS the Key to the Love stellium: cooperation and Agreement. Usually pretty pleased, But Here highlighting the vulnerable Spot in n chiron.
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2018 17:04:07 GMT
AS for the cradle i wouldn't Count IT. Progressions of the outer planets are Very slow and If ever would come Into ORB in many many years. Even sun will Take 12 years die coming Into Opposition to Saturn. Mercury IS to be tanken serious however. IT should be within the next 1-2 years, Not that iam looking Forward to IT. IT will also be conjunct the tropical composite desc in 1 Leo. Hmm Seems Like Venus will move into a trine with Mars. I Wonder If the Draco Version will BE Raster than the tropical one
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 19:12:59 GMT
Ava, the info you've provided above is very helpful, particularly the role played by Mars. Interestingly, our pr composite Saturn is conjunct his natal Mars (by 3 degrees) - and very possibly exercising a dampening influence. Communication is at an all time low, which is OK. It had to happen that way.
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Post by lumina on Aug 8, 2018 19:18:27 GMT
AvaYou mean Like the one P and M have? Well AS far AS progressions Go, No, they so Not Provider Background, that IS what the Natal does. They are Timers and activate Things. For a certain timwframe. Keep in mind though that by using one degree ORB WE are already talking about a frame of Appr. 2 years. And honestly outer planets Work that way only If the aspects IS near to exact, or If a faster Progressed Planet or transits Connect to IT at all. Actually You do need transits in General to See when IS a high activating Phase for a Progressed Planet aspects. I mean for example pr sun square Saturn might be in ORB for 3 years. However Not every day during that will Bring sun Saturn Lessons,though a certain Mood might of course colour the Period.
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Post by Ava on Aug 8, 2018 20:19:21 GMT
Ava , the info you've provided above is very helpful, particularly the role played by Mars. Interestingly, our pr composite Saturn is conjunct his natal Mars (by 3 degrees) - and very possibly exercising a dampening influence. Communication is at an all time low, which is OK. It had to happen that way. Thank you....maybe that does explain some dampening of the fire...is pr comp Saturn applying to his Mars, or separating? I focused on Mars because it's the ruler of Aries, and I had those experiences with Aries stelliums (stellia?). After I posted I realized I should have asked about your pr draco comp Neptune, as it rules your Pisces stellium. Not meaning to pry, but that might explain something. Currently I think all the Rx energy plus eclipses and Mars square Uranus on the nodes is making everything go haywire for virtually everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 20:36:34 GMT
Ava , here it is:
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Post by Ava on Aug 8, 2018 22:43:45 GMT
Thank you @astrokeen. At first glance it looks really beautiful and like something too precious to lose... But I'll be back later to look & think.
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Post by lumina on Aug 9, 2018 14:39:44 GMT
@astrokeen
Saturn Pluto square Just really sucks, esp. At tight orbs. I cannot See IT how tight isvthe ORB? IS IT applying or separating,? So You have the aspects in the composite AS well? Are there Personal planets progressing Into that Battlefield of a cold war AS well? If so You will need. The Patience of an Angel to be honest.
P was breaking my Heart many years ago when our solar Arc Pluto had Been exactly square Saturn and applying to oppose Juno. No way to Put IT Into pretty words. IT totally completely sucked....yet IT was the wake Up call i or maybe both needed.
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Post by lumina on Aug 9, 2018 14:41:04 GMT
Btw IS the solar Eclipse settling this Off in tropical?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 16:56:56 GMT
lumina , Pluto square Saturn has been present in all composites. We both have this square in our natals. His is 1 degree apart while mine is 7 degrees wide. Tropical composite: Pluto - 28.07 Saturn - 23.44 - sextile Sun Draconic composite Pluto - 16.19 Saturn - 11.56 - sextile Sun Pr comp Pluto - 29.07 - Leo Saturn - 29.15 - Sag Sun- 26.36 - Sag Pr draconic comp Pluto - 20.31 - Sag Saturn - 20.39 - Pisces Sun- 18 - Pisces The square is separating ever so slowly in the pr composite. Does this cast any light? Sun is very involved in the progressed versions. Not sure how to check the eclipse.
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Post by lumina on Aug 9, 2018 17:52:43 GMT
Yes IT means the worst IS soon Behinderung You. This now was the year your Saturn Pluto was in Play. Probably He was manifesting the Main part Activity, Well maybe i am too quick. Depends WHO has conjunct. Or opp. Tovthe composite Saturn Pluto. Btw p's Uranus IS square Como. Saturn by about 3 degrees. Usually i do Not See IT coming when He Changes the Rules once again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 18:59:47 GMT
Ava , lumina , thank you both. I have learnt to ride the waves now with an overriding sense of WTF. I'm still asking questions though so can't be all that detached . Will let you know if the Moon does its job.
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Post by lumina on Aug 10, 2018 10:19:07 GMT
AS for Progressed orbs in Action. AvaMaybe You remember there was a weird silent Period between p and me starting end of May, which was then turning Into a insanely communicative Phase. This coincided with pr moon squaring p an n chiron in 29 degree 46 in 3rd House. Granted IT also meant pr moon was changing signs. The communication suddenly exploded (at least for a time) when p moon was at 00.53 Leo, so Just over one degree separating from that square. At the time p moon was already applying to conjunct n desc in 1 Leo. Sadly itvis now at 2 Leo and pretty much in the verge of leaving the conjunction to the desc. Too Bad i really liked that. I suppose though co.mu ication will Turn a little Less Frequent again. The next aspect moon IS going to have IS trine p ceres in 4 Aries, in about 1-2 months though Not Sure how active a trine IS. But Sure Looks niceish .
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Post by Ava on Aug 10, 2018 11:04:16 GMT
Ava , lumina , thank you both. I have learnt to ride the waves now with an overriding sense of WTF. I'm still asking questions though so can't be all that detached . Will let you know if the Moon does its job. You're so welcome Astrokeen. This Mars-Uranus square is hitting my Saturn closely, so I can relate to "an overriding sense of WTF." Looking forward to Mars finally moving along into Aquarius, and the NN-Uranus square passing, later this year.
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Post by lumina on Aug 10, 2018 12:57:15 GMT
AvaPr moon might still be valid with one degree separating though.
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