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Post by Ava on Mar 5, 2017 20:27:03 GMT
Can you do it? How do you do it?
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So far, I'm no good at this.
In an effort to learn how to recognize the ASCs, I've assembled these lists, to try and get a sense of what people in each rising sign have in common with how they come across.
Astro-charts.com makes it easy, and they courteously differentiate between the charts with solid and less solid birth times.
Celebrity ascendant signs, using all solid birth times:
ARIES
Joan Baez, Heather Locklear, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Joan Rivers, Tim Kaine, Bo Derek, Barbra Streisand, James Dean, Jon Voight, Martina Navratilova, Stevie Nicks, Bette Midler, Barbara Hershey, John Lennon, Donnie Wahlberg, Penelope Cruz, Janeane Garofolo
--- TAURUS
Amelia Earheart, Liza Minelli, Bonnie Raitt, Serena Williams, Kellie Pickler, David Gahan, Trisha Yearwood, Brendan Fraser, David Letterman, Suzanne Somers, Robert Kennedy, Mia Farrow, Neil Armstrong, Lana Del Rey, Tommy Lee Jones, George Lucas, Melanie Griffith, Halle Berry, Ali McGraw, Jon Favreau, Steve Forbes, Gene Wilder, Daryl Hannah, Miley Cyrus, Ronda Rousey
--- GEMINI
Richard Dreyfus, Louis Tomlinson, Robert Sean Leonard, Charlie Sheen, Mitt Romney, Kathie Lee Gifford, Drew Barrymore, Tim Burton, Edward Snowden, Billy Idol, Matthew McConaughey, Kristin Stewart, Michelle Pfeiffer, Mick Jagger, Ashton Kutcher, Mindy Kaling, Juliette Lewis, Garth Brooks, Amy Winehouse, Ricky Martin, Mandy Moore, John Krasinski, Gordon Ramsey, Susan Boyle, Ben Stiller, Richard Tarnas
--- CANCER
Kurt Russell, Milla Jovovich, Jayne Mansfield, Farah Fawcett, Ryan O'Neal, Ben Affleck, Cher, Juliette Binoche, John Cena, Mark Wahlberg, Sara Gilbert, Michael Jordan, Billy Joel, Robert De Niro, Liv Tyler, Molly Ringwald, Matt LeBlanc, George Michael, Lisa Kudrow, Tyra Banks, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Cameron Diaz, Marvin Gaye, Charlie Rose, Bill Gates, Kate Hudson, Julia Roberts, Alan Thicke, John Travolta, Angelina Jolie, Miranda Kerr
--- LEO
Johnny Depp, Ava Gardner, Jack Nicholson, Meryl Streep, Celine Dion, Al Pacino, Tobey Maguire, Jason Bateman, Chris Farley, Louise Hay, Lisa Marie Presley, George W. Bush, Steve Martin, Selena Gomez, Alanis Morrisette, Matthew Perry, Marilyn Monroe, Andy Kaufman, Prince Andrew, Jake Gyllenhaal, Mary Kate and Ashley Olson, Richard Branson, Donald Trump, Chris Brown, George Carlin, Peter Gabriel, Lindsey Buckingham, Tina Turner, Mayim Bialik, Christopher Reeve, Kirsten Dunst, Muhammad Ali, Josh Groban, Miranda Lambert, Katie Holmes, Luciano Pavarotti, Ashley Judd, Ingrid Bergman, Justin Timberlake, Eva Green
--- VIRGO
Kenny Chesney, Uma Thurman, Woody Allen, Dolly Parton, Tim Robbins, Jeff Bridges, Don Johnson, Renee Zellweger, Patrick Swayze, Kathy Bates, Forest Whitaker, Marion Cotillard, Will Ferrell, James Taylor, Pete Townshend, Andrea Bocelli, Michael J, Fox, Steve Jobs, Tom Hanks, Bill Clinton, Kurt Cobain, Tiger Woods, Helen Hunt, Shannen Doherty, Kevin Costner, Hugh Hefner, Ted Danson, Bruce Willis, Leonard Cohen, Sissy Spacek, Richard Bach
To be continued...
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Post by Ava on Mar 5, 2017 20:27:21 GMT
LIBRA
Harrison Ford, Britney Spears, Leonardo DiCaprio, Barbara Walters, Bill Maher, Denzel Washington, Cat Stevens (Yusuf Islam), Andrew McCarthy, Ricki Lake, Javier Bardem, Ewan McGregor, Gerard Butler, Lea Thompson, Jon Bon Jovi, Debra Winger, Tom Brady, John F Kennedy, Sally Field, Jerry Springer, Jennifer Aniston, Greg Kinnear, Vince Vaughn, Chevy Chase
--- SCORPIO
Robin Williams, Charlton Heston, Caitlyn Jenner, Grace Kelly, Johnny Carson, Nicole Kidman, River Phoenix, Claudia Schiffer, Beau Bridges, Jim Carrey, Michael Douglas, Jessica Simpson, Tori Amos, Vanessa Paradis, Diane Keaton, Keith Richards
--- SAGITTARIUS
Jessica Biel, Joe Biden, Ian McKellen, Jude Law, Rita Wilson, Sarah McLachlan, Brad Pitt, Winona Ryder, Kim Kardashian, Elizabeth Taylor, Elvis Presley, Michael Fassbender, Sean Penn, Jodie Foster, Princess Diana, Linda Perry, Alyssa Milano, Anjelica Huston, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Tom Waits, Nicholas Cage, Jamie Lee Curtis, Goldie Hawn, Sylvester Stallone, Candice Bergen, Oprah Winfrey
--- CAPRICORN
John Belushi, Charles Bronson, Alan Alda, Clark Gable, Sophia Loren, Sean Connery, Ray Bradbury, Mark Hamill, Howie Mandell, Keifer Sutherland, Trent Reznor, Paul Newman, Joanne Woodward, Zac Efron, Meg Ryan, Diane Sawyer, Dakota Johnson, Gisele Bundchen, Monica Bellucci, Elizabeth II, Val Kilmer, Alison Kraus, Lauren Conrad, Joan Jett, Carrie Fisher, Martin Sheen
--- AQUARIUS Amy Poehler, Ian Somerhalder, Ralph Nader, Gayle King, Henry Winkler, David Bowie, Alicia Silverstone, Wayne Gretzky, Matt Damon, Matt Dillon, Jim Morrison, Tori Spelling, Barack Obama, Whoopie Goldberg, Belinda Carlisle, George Clooney, Orlando Bloom, Janis Joplin, Audrey Hepburn, Nina Simone
--- PISCES
Bela Lugosi, Antonio Banderas, Whitney Houston, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jason Alexander, Sean Hannity, Laura Dern, Mary Tyler Moore, Deepak Chopra, Jenna Elfman, Demi Moore, Johnny Cash, Richard Pryor, Mario Lopez, Wayne Dyer, Robert Redford, Mark Knopfler, Walt Dsiney, Johnny Cash, Ringo Starr
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Post by Ava on Mar 8, 2017 0:44:17 GMT
Aries rising video study Here are ten video samples of Aries ASC people, all interviews from talk shows. 1) Joan Baez - starts @ 1:25 2) Heather Locklear - @ 0:55 3) Jospeh Gordon-Levitt4) Tim Kaine5) Stevie Nicks6) Barbara Hershey - @ 1:50 7) John Lennon - @ 4:45 8) Donnie Wahlberg - @ 1:33 9) Penelope Cruz10) Janeane Garofalo - @1:13 And a description from cafeastrology, bold mine, emphasizing the kinds of things you can witness in a video clip. I think these distinctive traits are apparent within seconds. People with Aries Ascendants are direct and quick. Their first instinct is to do, rather than think. Planning ahead? Forget it. Aries rising simply charges forward without much ado.
This position does not make a person aggressive. Forthright, yes, but aggression is too strong a word for these natives. They have a youthful, direct manner that sees what it wants and generally goes for it. At the same time, there isn’t any malice in their intent.
Some Aries rising people are competitive, but they generally put most of the pressure on themselves. These people love to come out ahead in all that they do. They get ready quickly, walk quickly, and have little patience for dilly-dallying. Their temper is quick, too. It’s also quick to disappear. Rarely do you find Aries rising people holding grudges. Their mannerisms are rather simple and straightforward.
Aries rising loves action, and is often trying to stir up some activity. Their strengths lie in their enterprising ways. Finishing things they start does not always come as easily, unless the ruler, Mars, is placed in a more tenacious sign, such as Taurus or Scorpio.
Aries Ascendant often gives a rather swift walk, with the head leaning forward slightly. This walk is surprisingly distinctive. Headaches, and sinus and eye problems are the usual physical complaints of this position. Rashes and acne on the face and shoulders sometimes occur. Broad shoulders and slim hips are common. Often, Aries rising people are quick to smile, and they possess a youthful charm throughout life.
Probably early on in life, Aries rising people got typecast as the “independent” child. As adults, people with Aries Ascendants often stick to that role in life. People don’t run to help them out — they appear quite fine doing things on their own. These people have learned to be self-reliant, and this generally stems from their early experiences.
Despite a rather brusque and independent manner, these natives are usually very willing to compromise in their relationships, and are very attached to the people they hold dear.
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Post by whisperix on Mar 8, 2017 7:22:50 GMT
I am not good with this either. I have tried this link and I still do not know whether my rising sign is correct. link
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 8:13:13 GMT
Is this in aperance or something else?
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Post by Ava on Mar 8, 2017 14:14:11 GMT
I am not good with this either. I have tried this link and I still do not know whether my rising sign is correct. linkWow, did it work for you? Mine failed, it says my events don't match the time frame.
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Post by Ava on Mar 8, 2017 14:19:57 GMT
Is this in aperance or something else? For now I'm looking at the mannerisms of each ASC, with videos. And sometimes when I look lists of celebrities who share placements in common, I can more or less sense and pinpoint the expression of that placement. With Aries ASC I was surprised at how much a few of those people behaved like a textbook example, because I hadn't watched interviews of them before, and I had thought they were slower or quieter, judging by their pictures. For those interested in being able to see rising signs, I recommend Kannon McAfee's page: kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/Also astrofaces.com I might go into that later on this thread.
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Post by whisperix on Mar 8, 2017 19:46:00 GMT
I am not good with this either. I have tried this link and I still do not know whether my rising sign is correct. linkWow, did it work for you? Mine failed, it says my events don't match the time frame. The fist time it failed. With that I should be more of a Scorpio Rising then. The second time I got 24 minutes later. I have my time from the birth certificate. Some things do resonate with me and others are not valid for me at all.
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Post by whisperix on Mar 8, 2017 19:47:21 GMT
I liked those two links as well.
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Post by Ava on Mar 10, 2017 1:02:53 GMT
Taurus rising study 1) Bonnie Raitt - @ 2:00 2) Serena Williams - @ 0:45 3) Trisha Yearwood
4) Brendan Fraser
5) Neil Armstrong6) Lana Del Rey7) Tommy Lee Jones8) Jon Favreau9) Darryl Hannah - @ 0:30 10) Gene WilderFrom cafeastrology:Slow, steady, and capable are adjectives that we can safely attach to individuals born with a Taurus Ascendant. These natives have tremendous stamina and staying power. They’re often quite loyal to those they care about. Although they generally don’t come on strong, they have personal presence; and they fairly radiate stability.
The sign on the Ascendant generally reveals how people start anything new. Taurus, by nature, is resistant to change. It can be difficult to sway Taurus rising natives–they’re often rather stubborn and fixed in their ways. Their first responses are to feel things out, not in the way a Pisces might attune to their environment, but in the realm of the five senses. They have well-developed sense of smell and touch, and respond to the material world. Theirs is a practical approach to life. Security is one of their foremost considerations before undertaking anything new.
Taurus rising natives are often quite cautious and careful. With a fixed sign on the Ascendant, they are not known for their flexibility. Rather, they possess determined single-mindedness.
More than most, Taurus rising prefers the “good things” in life. Self-indulgence can be a weakness for many with this Ascendant. Often collectors in some way, Taurus rising natives place a lot of value on their material possessions.
Taurus rising individuals prefer to dress in quality clothes with a comfortable feel to them. They are rarely ostentatious in their presentation. Many have strong and sturdy physiques.
Often rather possessive in partnership, these natives won’t easily break up their relationships. Although they are not particularly jealous, they view their partners as their personal property. Intensity and loyalty are especially important to Taurus rising natives. These are highly sensual people who prefer the comforts that a one-to-one, stable partnership offers. Although Taurus rising individuals value harmony and calm, their partnerships may be on the passionate side.
Taurus rising natives are often very comforting to be around. They have a stability about them that is soothing, and an inner harmony that is attractive.
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Post by whisperix on Mar 10, 2017 7:52:34 GMT
I am looking forward for the Gemini rising.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 22:59:24 GMT
I can't recognise risings signs to save my life. I wish I had that skill! I went to astrofaces.com and I compared my face to those with the same sun, moon and ASC and I couldn't see any similarities.
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Post by the89freespirit on Mar 14, 2017 4:34:06 GMT
Recognizing Rising signs is a bit tricky. I'll go ahead and compile a list of how I look at it:
ARIES RISING - Looks angry, confrontational, or ready to "go off." But, often just has a rather cocky, headstrong, "no fucks to give" expression. In fact, they can often seem like they don't care at all what's going on around them. Behaves impatiently or impulsively and you can easily feel as if you are in their way, literally or metaphorically. Being around them is like a competition and they are very obviously pleased with themselves when they win.
TAURUS RISING - Looks very content, sweet, undisturbed. Seems like they are in the middle of enjoying something really nice or pleasant. Has a slow, steady kind of demeanor that stabilizes everything and can make them seem like the calm in the midst of a storm (like being peacefully in the corner of a very chaotic or loud room). Also can come off as lazy and you can find yourself pushing them to do things and regularly failing.
GEMINI RISING - Often looks like they are thinking of something really funny or interesting to say. Can easily look as bored as they are interested; in general, snaps from two different states or personalities very quickly. Behaves like Tinkerbell, really light and restless and here one minute, gone the next. You may feel like it's hard to keep up with them, particularly in conversations, as the topic can always go any which way in a matter of seconds.
CANCER RISING - Either has a really vulnerable or really guarded expression. They can go either way, seeming to be soft and unprotected or highly defensive and ever-ready to protect themselves. Often times, they are either one or the other but some can be both, depending on their mood. Behavior is totally dependent on how they feel at the moment and they can put that on you, which can be draining or exhausting.
LEO RISING - Their default expression is quite lively and confident. They can either appear to think of themselves with great self-importance (arrogance) or you can feel as if you should attach great importance to them (star power). Even when doing nothing, the spotlight is on them and they stand out, like an actor in a very subtle scene in a movie. Their demeanor is regal, warm, passionate, and strong-willed. A lot of their behavior makes you feel as if they are forcing things on you, whether they intend to or not.
VIRGO RISING - They naturally look as if they are judging you or criticizing you, even if they're only observing you. It seems like they are always filing things away in their head. The demeanor and attitude naturally cuts through any vagueness or lack of clarity, so they may ask a lot of questions, out of common-sense curiosity. They're very helpful in this way, quick to correct. Something about them always seem clean or put-together and they can come off as Mr. or Ms. Perfect, in a way that annoys you or puts pressure on you.
LIBRA RISING - A default expression that is quite neutral, sweet, and polite, making it easy to project something more favorable on to them than they intended. For instance, while labeled as very flirty, they are often just being nice. They behave in ways that make them appeal to everyone, so you can often watch them playing both sides of a conversation, either appeasing both parties or making sure no one's left out. Can come off as downright harmless and innocent, even when acting otherwise.
SCORPIO RISING - A naturally intense or incisive expression on their face. It will seem as if they are thinking deeply about everything that is being said or done. But, also, the expression is inscrutable and quite nerve-wracking because of this. You cannot easily read this person and you feel easier to read than usual around them. They carry themselves with an air of privacy or secrecy, constantly doing things other can't/don't see or coming in and out undetected.
SAGITTARIUS RISING - Has a go-to expression that is positive, upbeat, and buoyant. Can always appear ready to laugh or to say something boisterous or uplifting. The high-spirited energy is very barely suppressed. In general, they seem hard to contain, to a degree that's easily embarrassing, like being a bit too clumsy or too loud ("inside voice!" you may have to say) Also, they can behave as if you'd better keep up or you'll get left behind; like Aries Rising but more freewheeling than impatient.
CAPRICORN RISING - The look on their face can be quite severe and it can seem as if they are waiting for something to go wrong. It's easy to feel "under inspection" by them. But, their demeanor is sensible and commanding, also making you feel like everything is under control. In this sense, they act like your boss. They appear to be someone respectable and important. Humor is expertly deadpanned and there is an air of dignity and sophistication; a sense of "I would never", similar to Leo Rising but more level-headed.
AQUARIUS RISING - Default expression is cool and unaffected while also observant and bright. Their air of uniqueness and intelligence makes everything they do or say seem so interesting or unusual, even when it's not. Can constantly do, say, or reveal things that surprise or shock you. If in a group of people, they seem to be separate from others or on the periphery, always maintaining their sense of space. Their demeanor is both genuinely kind and friendly while not really getting invested in you.
PISCES RISING - The natural look on their face can be confused or it can a blank slate. They behave however they envision themselves behaving, so they are impossible to pin down and even describe sometimes. Their chameleon-like manner can leave you confused or enchanted because they may not seem real. Interactions with them are kind of like being in a movie; very much "role-playing." Their high sensitivity is either totally transparent or hidden behind a blatantly worldly or tough demeanor that's eventually seen through.
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Post by Ava on Mar 14, 2017 13:35:31 GMT
@ the89freespirit These are brilliant! 🤗 And they'll help my study so much, thank you! I'm new at this, but you already solved a riddle for me about Taurus rising. In my video study, many of them did seem "like they are in the middle of enjoying something really nice or pleasant." I couldn't figure out why they were so smiley or happy. But it makes sense because Venus is their chart ruler. Re: Leo "A lot of their behavior makes you feel as if they are forcing things on you, whether they intend to or not." LOL That's true, and I'm sorry to whoever is affected by it! (I'm Leo rising). @ whisperixI'll do it today! 👍 Unless our internet gets knocked out. Big storm here. @@bonsai I agree, astrofaces is hit or miss. I do resemble my sun-moon-ASC combination a little, but I also look like people with other combinations. Still some sets they present are convincing.
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Post by the89freespirit on Mar 14, 2017 17:15:02 GMT
Thanks, Faith! I like the idea of watching videos of people and looking out for these traits. Yeah, the way I look at Taurus Risings is that they always seem like they're listening to great music or tasting amazing food or something. It's that sensual air about them because their five senses are so active. They appear to be enjoying themselves but in a very low-key and grounded way, not like "woo hoo! party!" Haha. And I'm a Leo Sun, so I totally get it.
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Post by Ava on Mar 14, 2017 22:22:01 GMT
Gemini rising study 1) Richard Dreyfuss2) Louis Tomlinson3) Robert Sean Leonard4) Drew Barrymore5) Tim Burton6) Kathie Lee Gifford7) Kristen Stewart8) Ashton Kutcher9) Mandy Moore
10) John KrasinskiFrom cafeastrology: Those born with Gemini rising see the world as a place to learn. They are curious about the people around them. Sounds similar to Sagittarius rising? Well it is, but there are some important differences. While Sagittarius seeks to expand their mental and physical horizons in a broad sense, Gemini is mostly interested in moving about in their social circles.
These are people who love to ask questions, to move around freely, and to mingle. Definitely restless and often quick in physical expression, natives of the Gemini Ascendant exude an air of impatience even if they don’t mean it. In fact, there is a cleverness to Gemini Ascendants that can intimidate some, especially sensitive folk. Their facility with words can be a wonderful asset, although sometimes Gemini rising individuals identify too much with their mental agility and forget, in their personal interactions and communications, to nurture the people around them. A certain lack of warmth in presentation can be the result, and although this style is generally a facade, it is not immediately apparent to most. People with, for example, predominant Water signs may feel a little ill at ease with Gemini rising people (that is, before they get to know them more personally), while strong Air types more fully appreciate the fun and cleverness of these individuals.
I have found two styles of presentation most common with Gemini rising people. One style is bubbly, changeable, talkative, and a little quirky. These natives are interesting and fun. They constantly explain things, whether it’s their own behavior and opinion or those of the world around them. Another distinct “style” is a rather cool and intellectual demeanor. These natives are often quite witty and clever, but they present themselves in a less cheerful and changeable way than the first group. Their observations are sharp and the overall manner is a tad brusque. No matter the style, Gemini rising natives are given to analysis and making sense of their world. Their powers of observation are well-developed, they are mentally active (more often than not, their minds are racing!), and they almost always have something bright or witty to say. It is easy for individuals with this position to get sidetracked, as their curiosity is large, their minds are quick, and their attention spans rather short!
As children, natives born with a Gemini Ascendant are often labeled as the intellectual, inquisitive, and perhaps odd child. Many feel their upbringing lacked some warmth.
In one-to-one relationships, Gemini rising people often seek a certain amount of personal freedom and space. They enjoy intellectual debates and exchanging ideas. Although they often demand a fair amount of freedom, they are often just as willing to give their partners room to breathe.
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Post by Ava on Mar 14, 2017 22:25:14 GMT
Also I think what the89freespirit said of Gemini rising is true. I noticed this: "GEMINI RISING - Often looks like they are thinking of something really funny or interesting to say." It seems they move their eyes a lot, either to be inclusive (looking at everyone in the room), or they're looking to the side as if they're thinking of what to say.
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Post by whisperix on Mar 17, 2017 8:57:47 GMT
Also I think what the89freespirit said of Gemini rising is true. I noticed this: "GEMINI RISING - Often looks like they are thinking of something really funny or interesting to say." It seems they move their eyes a lot, either to be inclusive (looking at everyone in the room), or they're looking to the side as if they're thinking of what to say. the89freespirit and AvaDo you think that the rising sign changes over the years like the AC progresses? As I am older now I am calmer and and do not move my hands or anything else that often any more. I have noticed that the people in the videos of the rising signs do hold their hands. I can relate to that, because otherwise they would move to much.
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Post by Ava on Mar 17, 2017 13:29:44 GMT
whisperix, I think the natal ASC carries the most influence, but the progressed ASC may be detectable as well. Here's a video of Gemini rising astrologer Richard Tarnas, whom I ADORE by the way, his work is phenomenal: His ASC is 26° Gemini, so it must've progressed out of that sign when he was young. But he has those Gem rising traits mentioned above. They may seem a little exaggerated because his ASC is conjunct 1H Uranus (in early Cancer). So he shifts around a lot. I do wonder if each ASC undergoes a predictable change as it moves into the next sign. For instance, Gem ASC may become more introverted as it progresses into Cancer. That could manifest in that tendency to talk to a person while looking away, or perhaps the voice would become richer, taking on more emotional inflections. But that is guesswork.
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Post by the89freespirit on Mar 17, 2017 18:15:52 GMT
I think the progressed Rising sign is a subtle, underlying influence. It brings about little changes, here and there. But, I don't think it's powerful enough to overpower the actual Rising sign. I just think it's enough to keep us evolving and make sure that we're not too stuck in one mode of being all of our lives. Yet, I think the power of the influence can vary from person to person.
We also more conscious of our progressed Rising and can try to intentionally integrate that into our general way of being. My progressed Asc is Pisces and I've noticed that I have learned how to "glide" more in my walk, sort of like that fish-like, graceful swimming. I used to not be graceful at all, thanks to the Aquarius Ascendant, and my walk is very naturally disjointed and weird. When I don't think about it, even to this day, it's like my limbs are rebelling against me and I'm like "what is my body doing?!" But, when I think about it, the progressed Ascendant comes out and allows me to kind of "ride the waves" in my mannerisms.
Also, up until my early 20's, I was very in-your-face about my nonconformity and weirdness. Now, I've toned it down somewhat and I'm not as radical. I have learned how to disappear into my surroundings a bit and be more of a chameleon, a la Pisces. However, my nonconformist approach will never change. That still defines my outlook and attitude a lot. It's just that I go about it in a gentler, more peaceful sort of way.
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