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Post by lumina on Sept 24, 2018 5:40:56 GMT
my IChing Spread for tonight
45/ GATHERING (LOL - that is SOOOO literal)
the king approaches his temple, it is wise to seek audience with him there.
Success follows this course. Making an offer will seal your good fortune. A goal will be realized now.
(yeah, no pressure, right? lol)
Situation this is an important convergence, and you must be part of it. Look for the centre of this convergence. Like waters running to the sea, like an astronomical convergence of planets revolving around the sun, you should let the gravity of the centre draw you near. Others are also drawn to this center, and among them you will find shared bonds and kindred spirits. This tribal convergence will give you a clarity of purpose. you will no longer be alone.
changing line: it will prove good fortune to allow yourself to be drawn into this group. Attract an invitation by having something small but sincere to offer.
(hmm, I don´t think I ahve anything left to offer though. Well of course except my presence)
this hexagram changes into
Exhaustion
Triumph belongs to those who endure. Actions will prevail where words fail.... the Old you is just a dry husk. You can`t return to it. Metamorphosis is the only grace offered. you can only return to your homeland as a New You.
Ugh, sounds ominous somehow. I was just intending to see a concert btw. lol
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Post by lumina on Oct 15, 2018 12:59:54 GMT
For tonight
"52 - the mountain
To make this journey you must quiet the Ego, empty your mind of past and future, and dwell totally in the moment at hand. Thorough mindfulness of what is before you is the only tranquility. Be. Here.Now"
This is actually a very good advice in general!
changing lines:
Relaxing his legs. he sees he cannot rescue the one he follows. He resigns himself to sorrow.
He keeps his trunk still through flexibility. Faultless.
His constant goal is an end to striving. Good fortune.
transformed hexagram
32/ durability
Endurance is the key to this situation. True relience demands a flexibility which allows adaption to any adverse situation, while remaining true to the core. Can you maintain your integrity under any circumstance? Can you influence the situation without giving opposing forces anything to resist? Then you will endure to reach your goal.
hmm, I don`t have a goal really.
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Post by lumina on Oct 18, 2018 22:40:56 GMT
For tomorrow
58/ Empowering
This is the sign of true companionship. The principals in this situation exchange energy, ideas, feelings, constantly invigorating and encouraging each other to new heights of spiritual achievement and Self-discovery.
changing lines:
harmony and quiet words. Joyous contentment. good fortune.
Rejoice in his sincerity. This good fortune will last into the future, if you don`t let the past resurface.
Joy is tranquil, and will arise from peace
transformed hexagram
8 / Bonding
This is a time of connection with another - not just an alliance but a melding of parts into a new whole. such a connection may be too close, too intense for some. consult the oracle again to see if you have the qualities to strenghten and withstand such an intense synthesis.
New oracle:
46/ upward mobility (no changed lines!)
Supreme success. Have no doubts. Seek guidance from someone you respect. A constant move towards greater claritiy will bring reward.
You are progressing inch by inch toward certain success. With faithful patience you will run this long slow distance.
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Post by lumina on Dec 15, 2018 9:58:25 GMT
This is spooky!
I have consulted the i ching three times now at different days for the concert tonight and three times I got the same I ching, actually I got the same on for the last concert, too.
24 / Return
you have passed this way before, but you are not regressing. This is progress, for the cycle now repeats itself, and this time you are truely aware this is a cycle.
The return of old familiars is welcome.
You are about to going to experience a rebirth. about to be given a new chance... a new lease on life.
You lie dormant healing and absorbing new energies in preparation for the new spring that is coming shortly to your life.
The first two times I got the same changing line, too: REturn after return after return, but this is not a mistake, it is progress.
Today however this was the changing line: as the masses move on, you see a better path and return alone. ( I had this time asked specifically on tonight, not on the general direction between P and me).
Just thought this was crazy.
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Post by lumina on Dec 19, 2019 14:16:42 GMT
sais today: "To find what you seek, you must leave the child and follow the adult"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 19:10:52 GMT
www.onlineclarity.co.uk/reading/free-online-i-ching/ is truly wonderful. I've had lots of pointed and good advice. I just asked how I could help the people I'm conducting research on and the response was perfect: Key Questions Hexagram 62 - Small exceeding Do you need to cross a line? What small things can you do to meet the needs of the situation? How can you take even more care?
'Small Exceeding' means making this crossing in small ways: going beyond boundaries and structures, but paying close attention to them, always responding and adjusting, like a humble traveller crossing over great mountains. This is a creative way to engage with the world....it is worthwhile to do the smaller things that are within your capacity, taking small steps with consistent purpose.
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Post by Ava on Jan 28, 2020 22:16:02 GMT
Thank you @astrokeen .
edit ~ illuminating answers
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Post by lumina on Feb 21, 2020 8:09:00 GMT
Cast Hexagram:
17 - Seventeen Sui / Following
Thunder beneath the Lake's surface. The Superior Person allows himself plenty of sheltered rest and recuperation while awaiting a clear sign to follow.
Supreme success. No mistakes if you keep to your course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS: Thunder from the Lake -- the lulling, rhythmic roar of the faithful tide, eternally wearing away the stone of the shoreline, forever obedient to the phases of the moon. The pull of the moon on the tide is the Following called for now. As mighty as the tide is in its own right, it is ever the puppet of the invisible, irresistible gravity of the moon. What cyclical forces pull you along? Are you futilely attempting to resist a natural attraction?
for Hexagram 17, by Richard Wilhelm.
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Post by lumina on Apr 5, 2020 11:00:44 GMT
Was curious about if there was any interaction how the connection to P would be next week:
Ching / The Well
Deep Waters Penetrated and drawn to the surface:
The Superior Person refreshes the people with constant encouragement to help one another.
Encampments, settlements, walled cities, whole empires may rise and fall, yet the Well at the center endures, never drying to dust, never overflowing.
It served those before and will serve those after.
Again and again you may draw from the Well, but if the bucket breaks or the rope is too short there will be misfortune.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
There is a Source common to us all.
Jung named it the Collective Unconscious.
Others hail it as God within.
Inside each of us are dreamlike symbols and archetypes, emotions and instincts that we share with every other human being.
When we feel a lonely separateness from others, it is not because this Well within has dried up, but because we have lost the means to reach its waters.
You need to reclaim the tools necessary to penetrate to the depths of your fellows.
Then the bonds you build will be as timeless and inexhaustible as the Well that nourishes them.
predominant changing line:
Hexagram Forty-Eight/Line Five:
The water in this well comes from a cool, deep, inexhaustible spring.
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Post by Ava on Feb 17, 2021 3:52:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 20:21:17 GMT
Has anyone seen the Greenpeace movie "How to change the world"? It is superb and tells how the movement was established starting with their campaign against whaling by Japanese fleets. It so happened during their first attempt to photograph a whale being harpooned, they spent weeks on a boat waiting for the Japanese to appear. Just as they had run out of provisions and were about to turn back, they cast an iching spread. iching told them that they should not leave and indeed the following day they got their picture. In the days when there was no internet, a picture in a newspaper, termed a photobomb, generated huge support.
I think the film is available on Netflix.
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Post by Ava on Feb 18, 2021 21:41:56 GMT
That's interesting @astrokeen. Well I think of the mystical power of whales and how it may have made the IChing more receptive and on-point. Because that's how my mind works.
For a long time I had no idea why these are given in hexagram form. I still don't know. Is it because the radius of a circle fits exactly six times around the inner part of the circumference, forming a hexagon?
The Human Design system is based on the I-Ching, dividing the zodiac in the 64 parts (gates), each gate corresponding with an I Ching hexagram. I once tried to see a correlation between these gates (sign fragments) and the I Ching but give up quickly because nothing obvious and impressive jumped out at me.
Might try again next time I get into a Human Design mood.
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Post by lumina on May 9, 2021 17:08:32 GMT
spread for tonight
Fu / Return
Thunder regenerates deep within Earth's womb:
Sage rulers recognized that the end of Earth's seasonal cycle was also the starting point of a new year and a time for dormancy.
They closed the passes at the Solstice to enforce a rest from commerce and activity.
The ruler himself did not travel.
You have passed this way before but you are not regressing.
This is progress, for the cycle now repeats itself, and this time you are aware that it truly is a cycle.
The return of old familiars is welcome.
You can be as sure of this cycle as you are that seven days bring the start of a new week.
Use this dormancy phase to plan which direction you will grow.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
You are about to experience a rebirth -- about to be given another chance, a new lease on life.
You have persevered, gone the distance through an entire cycle -- through the Spring of hope or new passion, through a Summer of growth and building, only to be sacrificed like the archetypal Harvest King at the Autumn reaping.
You lie dormant like seed beneath Winter snows now, healing and absorbing new energies in preparation for the new young Spring coming shortly to your life.
changing line Openly admitting your mistake, you humbly and nobly return.
No blame.
(interesting read, as I had planned to postpone watching the stream tonight and instead watching the recording of it, without chat, next week, but jjust reconsidered in the last 20 minutes or so and making time for it)
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Post by lumina on May 9, 2021 17:10:49 GMT
Its true though, in a sense, I have been watching the premiere of that special project, exactly 2 years ago (3rd may 2019) and this is the first time since then (well there was one more concert of this, 2 days after the premiere, that I of course did not see) that this "returns" to light. so all very literal.
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Post by lumina on Jul 19, 2021 5:58:03 GMT
Asked what to expect from my trip:
Pi / Bonding
Deep Waters on the face of the Earth:
Surface waters flow together.
The Superior Person recognizes the situation calls for joining together.
Thus he cultivates friendly relations with all.
Good fortune is possible.
Cast the coins again to discover if you have the qualities needed to lead such a group.
Then there will be no error.
Those uncertain will gradually join.
Those who join too late will meet with misfortune.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
This is a time of connection with another or others -- not just an alliance, but a melding of parts into a new whole.
Such a connection may be too close, too intense for some.
Consult the oracle again to see if you have the qualities needed to strengthen and withstand such an intense synthesis.
more precisely: (Despite the gruesome interpretation here, this one has always had a very specific meaning for me)
K'an / Dangerously Deep
Water follows Water, spilling over any cliff, flowing past all obstacles, no matter the depth or distance, to the Sea.
The Superior Person learns flexibility from the mistakes he has made, and grows strong from the obstacles he has overcome, pressing on to show others the Way.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
You are facing a crucial trial along your Journey.
The danger of this challenge is very real.
It is a test of your mettle.
If you can maintain your integrity and stay true to your convictions, you will overcome.
That's not as easy as it seems when you are faced with the sacrifice of other things you've come to depend upon or hold dear.
Obviioual I do not like the waater allegory much considering the current circumstances, however the question was basically just asking about a connection, so it might not mean actual flooding.
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Post by lumina on Oct 18, 2021 14:27:21 GMT
For my upcoming trip
58 - Fifty-Eight
Tui / Empowering
The joyous Lake spans on and on to the horizon:
The Superior Person renews and expands his Spirit through heart-to-heart exchanges with others.
Success if you stay on course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
This is the sign of true companionship.
The principals in this situation exchange energy, ideas and feelings, constantly invigorating and encouraging each other to new heights of Spiritual achievement and Self-discovery.
This exchange is not for the glory of the Team, but for furthering the process of each individual's 'Te', or pure potentiality.
Difficult changing lines though, partly at least:
a) Arguing and negotiating to win love and joy.
Self-defeat.
Misfortune.
but also b) Rejoice in his sincerity.
This good fortune will last into the future, if you don't let the past resurface.
I think it is a warning to not fall back into old patterns and selfdefeating behaviour?
This will transform into Ko / Revolution
Fire ignites within the Lake, defying conditions that would deny it birth or survival:
The Superior Person reads the Signs of the Times and makes the Season apparent to all.
The support you need will come only after the deed is done.
Renewed forces, however, will provide fresh energy for exceptional progress.
Persevere.
All differences vanish.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
A revolutionary Change must be made forcibly.
There is no negotiating with the Established Order.
Perfect timing is essential.
Let the abuse of power become apparent and oppressive to those around you before making your move.
Lay the groundwork, sow the seeds for Revolution without tipping your hand prematurely.
You will need a strong foundation, because you will have to bring about this necessary change alone.
You cannot count on popular support, so you must wait until there is massive dissent.
Then the avenue for your assault will be cleared.
OHa I just want to make a trip for enjoyment, not start a revolution. lol
Interesting the first sentence: Fire ignites within the lake
The location of the theatre is directly in front of a lake, hmm, having an eye on those smoke detectors I guess?
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Post by lumina on Dec 18, 2021 12:10:41 GMT
Today
Chung Fu / Inner Truth
The gentle Wind ripples the Lake's surface:
The Superior Person finds common ground between points of contention, wearing away rigid perspectives that would lead to fatal error.
Pigs and fishes.
You may cross to the far shore.
Great fortune if you stay on course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
The subject of this hexagram discovers a key to Tranquility by first gaining insight into his own nature, then turning that vision outward.
By resolving inner conflicts and being at peace with himself, he learns to gain insight into others.
In effect, he enters another, sees with the other's eyes, listens with the other's ears, feels with the other's heart.
He then returns to his own center, with new perspective and understanding.
main changing line: True companions share their fate.
One beats the drum, one grows silent.
One weeps, one sings.
transforms into
Ching / The Well
Deep Waters Penetrated and drawn to the surface:
The Superior Person refreshes the people with constant encouragement to help one another.
Encampments, settlements, walled cities, whole empires may rise and fall, yet the Well at the center endures, never drying to dust, never overflowing.
It served those before and will serve those after.
Again and again you may draw from the Well, but if the bucket breaks or the rope is too short there will be misfortune.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
There is a Source common to us all.
Jung named it the Collective Unconscious.
Others hail it as God within.
Inside each of us are dreamlike symbols and archetypes, emotions and instincts that we share with every other human being.
When we feel a lonely separateness from others, it is not because this Well within has dried up, but because we have lost the means to reach its waters.
You need to reclaim the tools necessary to penetrate to the depths of your fellows.
Then the bonds you build will be as timeless and inexhaustible as the Well that nourishes them.
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Post by lumina on Jun 21, 2022 20:51:39 GMT
long time - no ask Anyway, been asking how things are going to go between P and me basic: changing line transformed hexagram Well who knows?
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Post by Ava on Jun 23, 2022 12:36:53 GMT
That's pretty heavy for a romantic reading lumina. "Thunder mingles with startled screams of terror for a hundred miles around." What are you two DOING?
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Post by lumina on Jun 23, 2022 12:58:14 GMT
AvaWell its Not necessarily a romantic Reading, right?
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