Event Composite Charts (EVCs)

[lumina]

Ava

thank you for the interpretation.


" A DESTINED photo, with NN on the MC there! "
LOL Yes, and photos are lasting.


"you finally consented and now the effect is lasting.
"
Question is just to what exactly did I consent? Well to a photo certainly. 




"Chiron on the IC, and you've wondered, has that moment hurt someone else? Someone could potentially get the wrong impression.
"
Yes, I was almost feeling a bit guilty, that Lancelot was being the first one I was taking such a photograph with. As surreal that is it almost felt like a form of betrayal, which is of course totally over the mark so to speak. Just felt like that for a moment, and it`s just a picture after all. lol 

Chiron on the IC is curiously enough conjunct P`s Ceres on 7 Aries and his Draco Mars is on 9 or 10 Aries I think. 



"ASC conjunct your natal, so transiting ASC was right on your natal Sag ASC-Mars-Neptune, a dreamy and expansive moment,"
Yes, and with Tr ASC conjunct my ASC it was probably a very "Me"-moment.


"with Mars in the first house (an actual Aries, right there in the house!)...but with Mars squaring Venus exactly, it wasn't a totally comfortable interaction...I'd say, attraction and confusion at once. Sparks flying a bit aimlessly.
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Yes, not so comfortable. and yet at the same time very comfortable, a bit confusiing. 
Interestingly his natal Mars is at 2-3 Aries, so it was falling onto my EVC Venus. 




"To me it doesn't LOOK like an EVC that you'd have for a moment with P, if that makes any sense."
Perfect sense. But Lancelot and me of course have a different set of "hot spots". 


BTW Lancelot`s EVC with that moment (no angles, but the Moon would not be much different, not more than 3 degrees at least).

[lumina]

Oh I just realized that Lancelot was shortly before his Juno-Return, which must have taken place yesterday or even on sunday. This is a bit curious, as just a few hours after the last workshop with him I was having MY Juno-Return.

[Ava]

May 22, 2018 20:07:00 GMT @astrokeen said:

lumina , thanks. Having seen the effects of the EVC, planets could be tracked to prepare for an event or check how they might unfold. Very good use of EVCs to investigate and predict events.

Thanks for the feedback & compliment @astrokeen -- and yes, I really think EVCs help predict events. 

Plus, for me, it's almost a meditative and calming exercise, to flip through time, looking for drama in EVCs. 

Well - Aqua Mercury, I'm a futurist. 
 

[lumina]

May 23, 2018 13:55:29 GMT Ava said:

May 22, 2018 20:12:59 GMT lumina said:

BTW Lancelot`s EVC with that moment (no angles, but the Moon would not be much different, not more than 3 degrees at least).

Sun-Venus would be nice except for that t-square. Is Mercury-Chiron on his natal sun? He seemed a little "thrown off" as you described it.

At least it wasn`t boring! LOL 

Yeah, Mercury-Chiron on his natal Sun (and my Chiron), opposing his Pluto on 17 Libra. 

Sun-Venus interestingly enough conjunct my EVC Moon on 7 Taurus, which by the next morning had applied to conjunct his EVC Sun, on his natal Chiron (8 Taurus). 

Some chironic story this seems to be!
Actually beyond the wound I see more and more the physical-tangible aspect of Chiron. 


Anyway Sun-Saturn separating already, but Venus-Saturn applying, as well as Sun-Uranus and Venus-uranus becoming more exact. 
BTW my pr Sun is on 10 Aqua currently and our composite has Mercury-Venus on 10 Aqua opposing Saturn on 12 Leo square Uranus on 10 Scorpio. 

Time was ripe I guess. lol Well it is clear that this could never lead to anything, but I am fascinated by the simultaneous Saturn-Uranus aspects. Push and pull. Just like my personality. lol

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I had my baby last night! It was quite a traumatic labour in all honesty, and events after it were frightening. But im getting better(hopefully). I am recovering but will take a few days.

Anyway I wanted to say re: the EVC i had posted - baby is a capricorn rising =)

Pls dnt quote

[Ava]

CONGRATULATIONS vg!!! And welcome to life, Cap rising baby

Even in normal childbirth labor can be traumatic, I never know if it's better to warn new mothers to prepare them, or just let them enjoy their time not knowing what's in store.

But I'm so glad you're both doing well ~ best wishes for a fast recovery! Hope you have lots of help so you can get sleep.

[lumina]

vg


CONGRATULATIONS! (even with the traumatic labour, but I hope you will recover very soon). Now you are a mommy! How does that part of the birth feels? Being able to hold your baby in your arms now? 

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Thank you! Am exhausted but we are doing well. He is perfect. Will be back in a few days, thank you for your wishes =)

[whisperix]

Congratulations!!!!

[whisperix]

On topic. That is the EVC when my mother died. I can remember that it happened early in the morning, but I had the chance to say "Good bye". On the exact same day my grandmother had a stroke and was bed ridden until she died.

[whisperix]

That is the day when I gave birth to my twins. I have a Libra stelllium and my chilldren a Scorpio stellium. I had the impression that my children are connected to my mother and I like the idea that the cancer rising of the death is represented by the Cancer Moon in this chart.
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and yes it is a boy (=Mars) and a girl (=Venus) .

[lumina]

whisperix

I am sorry about that first eVC. what a traumatic day that must have been!!
To be honest I am not really sure the EVC does it really justice. The only thing I can really find indicative of that might be the wide Moon-Saturn-conjunction opposing Uranus. Was Ceres making difficult aspects? (conj, opp. square, quinkunx? esp to Pluto, but also others?)


In the second one it is just soo uncanny with the Venus-Mars-conjunction. Amazing!

[lumina]

this is my EVC for next saturday (7th july), the barbequeue/ fanmeeting and following show, the whole thing starts at noon, no clue how long it will be, and then later that evening the show, I used the starting time for the barbequeue. 

[FruityLlama]

vg congratulations and wishing you both the best!!! <3

[FruityLlama]

Thanks for this thread Ava
Here are some EVCs of mine. Curiously both have grand squares in them

This is when I met my bf



Notes:
-Was also the day I started a new summer job
-Nice stellium with Venus/Sun/Mercury across 9th and 10th house so apt I think. My bf comes from a different country too (9th house) and the restaurant was supposed to be influenced by that country.
-When I first met him I thought he was bossy haha- grand square with jupiter in 2nd and Saturn in 5th plus the stellium? He was/is really passionate about his cocktail art so gets bossy with others re: technique, which is understandable I guess!
-He asked me to help him with his English because he learnt that I was learning his language at the time and for a few years previously (again 9th/10th house stuff?).
-Mars-Saturn opposition sit one degree away from my natal ASC-DSC axes! 
-Love that Jupiter-NN conjunction. The meeting obviously changed me and knowing him has definitely broadened my horizons since in a lot of ways.

This is when I graduated from my undergrad last year:



(Oh ignore the weird asteroids, for some reason astro.com automatically puts them in now dear lord)

Notes:
-The energy was a bit jittery that day because we had to run around collecting certificates and robes and I couldn't for the life of me get my hood to sit right. We had a speech by one of my all time favourite childhood writers (Michael Morpurgo if anyone knows him) so that was pretty special. 
-Mars in 12th I think is represents my nerves well, Leo ASC well it was a proud moment of course. 
-Moon on AP is interesting- opening and closing of doors.
-Venus slap bang on my natal sun, Venus sq. ASC. Astonishingly, my official photo is hideous as are the other 32 I was tagged in on facebook. My dress was pretty sweet though, I dressed like a hippy (Neptune opp. ASC, Uranus sextile Venus).

Other details:
-Had a lovely meal afterwards
-Had a photo with an owl.. because obviously. 
-Feelings of sadness knowing I'd never see certain people again and assuming they wouldnt want to see me either. 




I don't know if this analysis is right or appropriate by the way, Ive never done these before!

[Ava]

Thanks for your charts and stories, ladies.

whisperix , how strange that such a difficult personal time for you should have such a beautiful kite in the EVC.

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[FruityLlama]

Oh gosh I hadn't noticed that- for the relationship event chart, my ASC-DSC is exactly square it I wonder what that could mean?? Opportunity for growth in my self expression perhaps? That node also sits in my 5th house!

I also missed that Moon-SN in the graduation chart too- thanks Ava! How uncanny astrology can be!!

Haha well thank goodness it was a professional photographer as my skin was airbrushed to the max!

Wow, I wish I was cleverer at astrology to notice these things- that triangle is cool! Yes true, also because my undergraduate degree was Linguistics (Sun in Gemini) which I used to get into this degree I am doing now which is audiology, a more hands-on, practical profession which incorporates improving quality of life (Pisces), detecting problems (scorpio), using and adapting technology which changes all the time so you have to be quick with the advancement and also philosophies. Basically, I wonder if its indicative of channelling all that the sun represents into the bigger, more collective energies of Uranus and Jupiter!

(That was just me trying to learn how to better interpret things, yours is much more succint haha, thank you again!)

[lumina]

Ava

"Oh I like how you spell that: "barbequeue." Makes more sense than barbecue. Americans typically don't use the word queue.
"
Well I guess it is just a simple mistake then. Or I am insanely creative with my wording. or incompetent in terms of orthography. lol 




"Anyway....Scorpio Venus-ASC on your natal Uranus, exactly square Uranus...as you say, "at least it won't be boring.""
Yes. I find it funny almost that HE in his EVC with that day has a Venus-Uranus-square, too, and in fact we BOTH have a T-square. 

Mine: 
Venus 1 Scorpio
Pallas 3 Taurus
Uranus 1 Leo

Uranus conjunct composite DESC and pr composite Moon on 1 Leo



His: 
Venus 11 Scorpio
Pallas 10 Taurus
Uranus 12 Aquarius 

Venus conjunct composite chartruler Uranus on 12 Scorpio and pr composite Mars on 10 Scorpio

Were I to make a composite of our composite with that event, this particular trio would appear as 
Venus on 6 Scorpio square Uranus on 7 Aquarius, but that is probably taking it too far. Still interesting that this is the one day, or one of the rare days when we both seem to have the same alignment between Venus and Uranus in terms of the transits. 
and hence experience both the same Venus-Uranus-aspect (even though there is no natal aspect in our synastry unless we count a rather wide orbed out of sign square of my Uranus to his Venus with °26 - I am having an applying trine of pr Venus to Uranus in my natal chart though. 

Funny enough 6 Scorpio is where his Draco Ceres on 5 Scorpio conjuncts my Draco Saturn on 6 Scorpio and my Draco progressed DESC is on 6 Scorpio, while his Draco progressed ASC is on 7 Capricorn exactly conjunct his Draco progressed Moon - I am just mentioning it cause it means it JUSt has been conjunct my tropical Venus on 6 Cap with his Draco progressed DESC having been on my Draco Juno on 6 Cancer and applying to his Draco Mercury on 8 Cancer. 


and that is downright funny in terms of the Venus-Uranus-theme of the EVC. 

my pr Draco Venus 22°36 Gemini (on the exact degree of the last New Moon!)
his Draco Uranus 22°01 Gemini (and not out of the range yet and applying to his progressed Draco Uranus on 25°34 Gemini)

and my pr Draco ASC completes the Grand trine with his pr Draco Sun and Moon (which is of course just in orb for a few weeks due to Moons quick movement. )

my pr Draco ASC 6°52 Taurus
his pr Draco Sun 6°43 Virgo
his pr Draco Moon 7°27 Capricorn
his pr Draco ASC 7°38 Capricorn 

with 

my Draco Saturn 6°47 Scorpio
my Draco Saturn 5°26 Scorpio
his Draco Ceres 5°39 Scorpio

my Draco Juno 6°48 Cancer
his Draco Mercury 8°00 Cancer


Orbs are of course not all tight enough,b ut as a patern this is surely interesting.


"It's a heavy situation, but illuminating and ultimately strengthening. Perhaps you will learn something then that moves you forward in life."
Yes, maybe. Well I wonder if he follow up on my suggestion I did.




"How funny that it's so Plutonian and there will be literal flames around you (barbecue) like a scene from Hades.
"
LOL. Yes. 

[whisperix]

lumina

Thank you very much for your kind words. I checked Ceres and the closest aspect would be a sextile to Chiron by 1*.

Ava

I find it interesting as well that the energy of a family is always shown in a chart, even if I connect it to a EVC. Maybe your son has a strong connection to the mother. What I find interesting is that it is the Sun (=father) that remain so close Neptune (=secret).

When I gave birth to my children I did not solve my fathers line and they do have a Scorpio stellium in the 12th house. Although Jupiter is already in the first house - technically speaking.

@both

It is difficult to explain for me, but the Kite makes sense to me. It was a "Good buy" for the better for both of us. What I find interesting is that there is a boy and a girl in the 3rd house. I always felt incomplete and found out via energy work that I should have had a twin. There will not be any confirmation, but I feel a lot better since I worked on that one as well.

For me the death is represented by the outer planets like Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and even Pluto .

[lumina]

whisperix

interesting what you said about twins. I was actually supposed to be a twin, or more precisely, my mom would ahve been "due" having twins, but None of her Kids is a twin, well my brother had a chromosome (?) that was Splitting doubly, which means he has the Down Syndrome, but that doesn`t quite fit.

I`ve always been convinced that there is a "twin out there", even before I knew that twin births were not that unusual in my anchestral line, and curiously my mom was interrupting the pattern by NOT having twins.